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Dravs posted:Why am I reading stories about Boris swanning off to Perugia to meet with Lebvedev (owner of several British papers and ex KGB)? Fake news!!
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Tulip posted:Did Starmer ever openly work for the tories? he headed up crown prosecution services as director of public prosecutions under a tory govt. He was the face of attacks on benefit claimaints and advised against prosecuting saville. He was also more pro-cop than the loving IPCC during the Ian Tomlinson manslaughter case
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Tulip posted:Did Starmer ever openly work for the tories? He was Director of Public Prosecutions under the coalition I think However he's more of a loyal party guy I think, I get the impression he'd be very at home as a late Soviet apparatchik
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Spangly A posted:It's honestly astonishing that the one thing Starmer is carrying on from the Corbyn leadership is fence-sitting as an electoral gambit Yep, he should be articulating policy more clearly by now. I imagine he thinks there is no urgency and he can just profit off govt chaos.
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redleader posted:homeopathic corbyn the tiniest amount of corbyn to make the public immune to future corbyns
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weast posted:I heard Keir Starmer recently referring to himself as a socialist (which is absurd) and that got me wondering: how many of the recent Labour Party leaders have called themselves socialist? even blair claimed to be a socialist afaik
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brexit owns https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1308755604606013441?s=20
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Special Economic Zone Kent. To borrow from the discussions about the PRC earlier this week.
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people said the tories would break up the union but this is shaping up to have more bordergore than my worst nightmares
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What if the export company is itself in Kent? Do they have to erect a border station at the exit to their factory? If a trucker is stopped in Kent without paperwork, how do you prove that their next destination is the EU? What are the odds on how much thought has gone into this by the Tories?
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Dravs posted:What if the export company is itself in Kent? Do they have to erect a border station at the exit to their factory?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Kent will be abolished to get around this issue. Kent, strongly Brexit, is basically becoming part of the EU as far as the border is concerned.
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Doctor Jeep posted:lol england will break up into pre-unification kingdoms brief familiarity with the history of the paedoph isles tells you that "hopefully kent just leaves us alone" is a terrible position
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Jose posted:the man who loves boris johnson even after having been cucked by him is definitely a legit source for this on starmers conference speech https://twitter.com/chriswarwick/status/1308331667359256576?s=20
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weast posted:I heard Keir Starmer recently referring to himself as a socialist (which is absurd) and that got me wondering: how many of the recent Labour Party leaders have called themselves socialist? When people like Starmer identify as a socialist, they don't mean a socialist. A good illustration of this is the fight over clause IV. Blair got rid of the old clause in the Labour constitution which committed it to a socialist economic agenda (without explicitly mentioning socialism): quote:To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service. and replaced it with one that labelled the party as a democratic socialist organisation, but made clear that socialism was just kind of a vibe, and didn't involve a transformative vision which would threaten capital or anything: quote:The Labour Party is a democratic socialist Party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many not the few; where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe and where we live together freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect.
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Bryter posted:When people like Starmer identify as a socialist, they don't mean a socialist. A good illustration of this is the fight over clause IV. Blair got rid of the old clause in the Labour constitution which committed it to a socialist economic agenda (without explicitly mentioning socialism): socialism with capitalist characteristics
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gonadic io posted:brb moving to york I hope you like floods
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a socialist is someone who believes in society, duh
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Doc Hawkins posted:a socialist is someone who believes in society, duh *Thatcher nods approvingly*
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1308703417901121537?s=20 Ugh. so much for Starmer’s commitment to human rights. That’s depressing. That slimy lawyer who brought the false cases has a lot to answer for.
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:gotta say the 'impunity for torture and time limits for injury and accident claims by troops' bill passing the HoC has made genuinely, genuinely angry All I'm reading is they've never given a gently caress except for the most egregious cases of murder: quote:In 2014 an independent Royal Military Police led investigation (Operation Northmoor) was launched into allegations relating to UK detention operations in Afghanistan between 2005 and 2013. Also: Panorama posted:Operation Northmoor was set up in 2014 to examine allegations of executions by British Special Forces.
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Wolfsbane posted:One of the reasons Corbyn got in was that the last time the Labour right were in charge they whipped to abstain on benefit cuts. Among other reasons, this is a "gently caress you" to the left. the history of labour for... i dunno how long but a WHILE: the right wing completely fucks it labour voters: oh christ not them again lets vote left the left wing completely fucks it labour voters: oh christ not them again lets vote right which i guess is a nice microcosm of liberal democracy
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redleader posted:demon-crackersphere
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