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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:No, dude, listen to the podcast I posted like two pages ago. It's Jim Watkins. It's a scam to sell t-shirts and stickers. I'm not trolling, it's been figured out. The ONLY people saying it isn't him, are people that don't want the LARP to end. The evidence looks interesting but largely circumstantial. Watkins owns 8kun and qmap. When 8kun went down, Q fell silent. He's clearly interested in promoting Q, but does that mean he's been acting as Q?
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InfiniteZero posted:I recall a short story by I think Ursula K. LeGuin where a society is kept in harmony so long as they have a single child kept hidden and in constant misery, so it's not like it's a very new concept.
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VitalSigns posted:This is a crazier thing to believe than all the Q stuff combined A pampered super rich guy used to buying his way out of trouble looking at spending the rest of his life in prison for sex offences killing himself isn't shocking at all. First time in "prison" : quote:On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[112] he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. While most convicted sex offenders in Florida are sent to state prison, Epstein was instead housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade and, according to the sheriff's office, was after 3 1⁄2 months allowed to leave the jail on "work release" for up to 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. This contravened the sheriff's own policies requiring a maximum remaining sentence of 10 months and making sex offenders ineligible for the privilege. He was allowed to come and go outside of specified release hours.[98] Second time when he went to real prison : quote:On July 6, 2019, Epstein was arrested at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey on sex trafficking charges.[22][177][178] He was jailed at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City, which has held prisoners such as John Gotti, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, and Paul Manafort.[179][180]
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Morningwoodpecker posted:A pampered super rich guy used to buying his way out of trouble looking at spending the rest of his life in prison for sex offences killing himself isn't shocking at all. It's not shocking, but the idea that the pedophile who was close friends with the president and almost definitely would testify against him who was hired by the attorney generals father for no reason was "Accidentally" allowed off camera and off suicide watch for "reasons" in a jail that hasn't had a successful suicide in like 20 years is pretty laughable to think that's all just coincedence. In this instance, Occams razor says the simplest explanation is that he was helped to commit suicide, and probably even encouraged to do so.
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GABA ghoul posted:Hi op. I have a serious question and it's not intended to be confrontational. What do you hope to get out of posting this? Like, do you just do it for yourself to order your thoughts/ideas or do you think that it might also sway some people itt? indiscriminately fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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pseudanonymous posted:It's not shocking, but the idea that the pedophile who was close friends with the president and almost definitely would testify against him who was hired by the attorney generals father for no reason was "Accidentally" allowed off camera and off suicide watch for "reasons" in a jail that hasn't had a successful suicide in like 20 years is pretty laughable to think that's all just coincedence. Look at the differences in how he was treated the two times he went to prison. The first time he basically paid to be in prison on paper only. The second they stuck him in a high security shithole described as a nightmare gulag. https://gothamist.com/news/prisoners-endure-a-nightmare-gulag-in-lower-manhattan-hidden-in-plain-sight quote:In a special jail-within-a-jail called 10 South, alleged terrorists, mobsters and drug kingpins are subject to some of the most brutal conditions of solitary confinement in the nation. This extreme isolation, reserved for those charged with the most heinous crimes, was described as “a punitive measure that is unworthy of the United States as a civilized democracy,” according to a former special monitor on torture and punishment for the United Nations who investigated the case of one prisoner held there for three years.
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And one might suggest that keeping an eye on an extremely high profile confirmed sex criminal whose testimony could be very important in an ongoing case concerning an international sex trafficking operation might be a good idea. Unless, of course, a lot of the people who might be implicated in it worked for the government holding him prisoner. E: the forums are making GBS threads themselves as I post it clearly killary is working her satanic magic to keep the truth suppressed.
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Sep 22, 2020 16:06
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Or he just paid the guard off so that he could have enough privacy to kill himself. Extreme narcissists like him sometimes kill themselves to spite their perceived enemies even if the act makes no practical difference, as happened with Hermann Göring, who killed himself the night before his execution. I can also believe that a weak coward who had never experienced a consequence in his life would kill himself at the prospect of being called to account. He hadn’t even been in the presence of anyone who didn’t work for him or who wasn’t a child he was raping for decades at least. He was probably thinking about what tv and movies say happen to pedophiles in prison.
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Sep 22, 2020 16:22
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Possibly, though again I think there are plenty of other people who would have wanted him dead so the guards should definitely have held out for a better offer.
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Sep 22, 2020 16:25
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nonathlon posted:The evidence looks interesting but largely circumstantial. Watkins owns 8kun and qmap. When 8kun went down, Q fell silent. He's clearly interested in promoting Q, but does that mean he's been acting as Q? Have you not listened to Frederick, the guy who made 8 chan, say that he knows it's Watkins because he's gone through the code?
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly, though again I think there are plenty of other people who would have wanted him dead so the guards should definitely have held out for a better offer. If they were worried that he had genuine dirt on them, why wait until he was arrested a second time? Why not just arrange a boating accident or a heart attack or something before the whole world was watching his every move?
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Presumably because a lot of people liked his nonce plane/island and wanted him to keep running it. Maybe this is a cultural thing cos in the UK you get to keep doing your sex crimes until you die and then it only comes out afterwards and everyone goes "how could we have known" and nobody faces any consequences. Or you go on TV and do a big interview about how you can't sweat and were actually having a pizza in workington at the time and are a royal so you couldn't have done any crimes. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Sep 22, 2020 16:33
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly, though again I think there are plenty of other people who would have wanted him dead so the guards should definitely have held out for a better offer.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:The guards are either dead or were paid off by so many people simultaneously than no-one's left to get them for taking a bribe. They said they fell asleep. Might have just not cared about him enough to get out of their chairs though. Guard one "the pedo in cell three is self harming" Guard two "good"
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Dear Blattdorf, I am very interested in learning more about your theory and have a few honest questions about it: 1) Where did you first hear about this conspiracy? 2) Since the mainstream media won't cover any of this, where do you get the latest information and news about Hillary & co's conspiracy? Where do you recommend people go to learn more? 3) There is substantial evidence (ie. things that he actually said in public interviews) that Trump is literal pedophile himself - see the Miss Teen USA locker room comments, talking about how hot a 12yo Paris Hilton was, paling around with Epstein, lawsuits accusing him of raping underage girls, etc. - so why would he be the great anti-pedo crusader and not part of the problem? 4) What exactly should concerned American citizens be doing about this (besides posting on the internet)? Are there organizations we should join, politicians/groups we should be donating to, protests we should be attending? Thank you for your time, Youth Decay
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Sep 22, 2020 16:56
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Morningwoodpecker posted:They said they fell asleep. Might have just not cared about him enough to get out of their chairs though. Just imagine ... well even now despite having no power and no ability to do anything the right is blaming Hillary Clinton for this. Imagine if she actually was in power.
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pseudanonymous posted:Just imagine ... well even now despite having no power and no ability to do anything the right is blaming Hillary Clinton for this. Imagine if she actually was in power.
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Sep 22, 2020 17:08
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trump was killed and hollowed out into a suit by hillary in 2016 she will eat barron the second "trump" leaves office
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Its probably healthy to have skepticism about the event, as it is suspect. But if you obsess about the particulars youll drive yourself insane.
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Youth Decay posted:Dear Blattdorf, This guy is a pro youtube researcher, I guarantee it. Because we all know that the secrets the rich and powerful are trying desperately to hide from you are all easily available on a platform owned by one of the biggest corporations in the world.
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OwlFancier posted:Presumably because a lot of people liked his nonce plane/island and wanted him to keep running it. I had not considered this extremely reasonable answer. I guess I figured it was easy for powerful people to rape kids whenever they want, but maybe it is better to have a fall guy make the arrangements for you. Still, it seems like the jig was up the first time he was convicted, but I guess his rich friends kept coming over for the parties after that.
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ashpanash posted:This guy is a pro youtube researcher, I guarantee it. Because we all know that the secrets the rich and powerful are trying desperately to hide from you are all easily available on a platform owned by one of the biggest corporations in the world. The deep state basically has a psychological need to be caught. It’s why they put clues about all their crimes in plain sight for anyone to see and decipher with 2 minutes of googling.
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ashpanash posted:This guy is a pro youtube researcher, I guarantee it. Because we all know that the secrets the rich and powerful are trying desperately to hide from you are all easily available on a platform owned by one of the biggest corporations in the world.
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IPlayVideoGames posted:The deep state basically has a psychological need to be caught. It’s why they put clues about all their crimes in plain sight for anyone to see and decipher with 2 minutes of googling. How many times do the researchers have to explain that putting clues everywhere makes the magic stronger because more people think about them and their crimes and believe in them, thus supercharging the rituals? Which I guess means that the people exposing all of this with three-hour youtube videos are actually essential to the victories of their powerful enemies.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I had not considered this extremely reasonable answer. I guess I figured it was easy for powerful people to rape kids whenever they want, but maybe it is better to have a fall guy make the arrangements for you. Still, it seems like the jig was up the first time he was convicted, but I guess his rich friends kept coming over for the parties after that. I mean I might be entirely wrong but everything I see of upper class society suggests that it isn't really super well planned out, it's just a bunch of utterly depraved freaks who like to hang out with other, similar people and do similar poo poo, but they're also kinda lazy and don't really plan ahead much because being super rich makes you complacent. They're reactive and can and will throw money at problems and/or do crimes when they want to but they aren't like a super competent conspiracy or whatever. They are really used to just not seeing consequences and having people and structures that exist to ensure that they don't see consequences. But critically they didn't, like, plan out those structures, they inherited them, and they are constructed and maintained by the sort of ambient pressure of a lovely oligarchical society. Lots of donations to lovely right wing politicians, inherent biases in the justice system, that sort of thing. It's like a society full of panicky horses if the horses also commanded billions of dollars worth of power and had a predilection for sex crime. I'm sure they can do sex crime whenever they want but I think specifically the way it was available to them for a long time was that a lot of them did it on epstein's sex crime plane and sex crime island and they weren't going to stop until they had to. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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People who believe conspiracy theories have never had the experience of being supremely unimpressed after meeting a rich/powerful person. Maybe this is a tautology though as they all seem to be very impressed by Donald Trump. 
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OwlFancier posted:I mean I might be entirely wrong but everything I see of upper class society suggests that it isn't really super well planned out, it's just a bunch of utterly depraved freaks who like to hang out with other, similar people and do similar poo poo, but they're also kinda lazy and don't really plan ahead much because being super rich makes you complacent. They're reactive and can and will throw money at problems and/or do crimes when they want to but they aren't like a super competent conspiracy or whatever. They are really used to just not seeing consequences and having people and structures that exist to ensure that they don't see consequences. But critically they didn't, like, plan out those structures, they inherited them, and they are constructed and maintained by the sort of ambient pressure of a lovely oligarchical society. Lots of donations to lovely right wing politicians, inherent biases in the justice system, that sort of thing. The upper crust do get an easy ride through the justice system but it takes the form of a polite phone call to their solicitor rather than being chased down chucked in a van and given whichever disinterested ambulance chaser is available. Once in prison they buy themselves an easy ride, see Epstein's first stint in prison for an example. Having people killed not so much. Being able to cope psychologically with one of the harshest prisons in America definitely not. They see prison as they see tax it's for poor people.
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I would at the very least, characterise the conspicuous lack of effort put into ensuring he was kept alive as a little suspicious given how many rich and powerful people might conceivably be implicated in his activities. Perhaps you could also characterise that as another facet of the implicit bias of the justice system towards the wealthy and powerful, that it treats international child sex trafficking as seriously as shoplifting.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:How many times do the researchers have to explain that putting clues everywhere makes the magic stronger because more people think about them and their crimes and believe in them, thus supercharging the rituals? I’m still not completely off the idea that Qanon’s true enemy is the Riddler. Maybe this is a big arg for the next Batman movie?
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OwlFancier posted:I would at the very least, characterise the conspicuous lack of effort put into ensuring he was kept alive as a little suspicious given how many rich and powerful people might conceivably be implicated in his activities. Perhaps you could also characterise that as another facet of the implicit bias of the justice system towards the wealthy and powerful, that it treats international child sex trafficking as seriously as shoplifting. The place is apparently notorious for neglect, violence, rats and the UK have refused to extradite people who might be sent there specifically because of the conditions. Probably doesn't attract the best the prison service has on offer. He was in maximum security so they were treating it seriously second time around.
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"well they put him in a place where it was bound to happen" doesn't make it sound like the information he had implicating wealthy elites was, at the very least, considered to be something that should be protected
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If someone genuinely wants to kill themselves there's not much you can do.
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The Metropolitan Correctional Facility has had a single successful suicide in the last 21 years, back in 1998 whereas there have been a bunch of attempts that were successful foiled. Detainees at the MCC are given tissue-thin blankets that aren't supposed to support a human's body weight and are reportedly watched closely by guards. Additionally, Epstein was improperly taken off suicide watch, his cell mate was transferred just before his death, and two different cameras watching Epstein's cell independently malfunctioned on the night of his death (coincidentally the video from his first "suicide attempt" was deleted, and the backup copy of the video was also deleted, due to 'human error'). Epstein was found to have multiple neck fractures, including a broken hyoid bone, a break most commonly associated with homicidal strangulation, and there was blood in his eyes, which is also apparently most commonly associated with homicidal strangulation. One of the forensic pathologists present at his autopsy, Michael Baden, asserted that the marks on Epstein's neck indicated he had been strangled with a thin wire, that there was blood on his neck that wasn't present on the ligatures, and that bruises on his shoulder and wrists suggest he had been restrained prior to being strangled. There are multiple ways you can explain each of these facts but combining these weird circumstances with everything we know about Epstein's even weirder life and career is very strong grounds for suspicions about the circumstances surrounding his death.
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I have changed my mind and would like to go with "Killary Klinton, master ninja assassin" please Alex.
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OwlFancier posted:I have changed my mind and would like to go with "Killary Klinton, master ninja assassin" please Alex. 
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Master ninja assassin and also necromancer, apparently.
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RIP David Dees. May a host of unvaccinated children sing thee to thy rest.
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Wait is that actually a Dees one? I thought it was stylistically similar but it needs at least three more screaming children and hillary doesn't have a 5g antenna coming out of her head shooting waves at the children and also a tattoo on her forehead saying FEMA
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I thought that the whole “both camera feeds were cut mysteriously before the suicide” was sourced back to a single speculative tweet day-of?
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