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Nothingtoseehere posted:still waiting to your path to socialism through not voting Labour 1. Starmer loses next election 2. Elect a left wing leader 3. ??? 4. Profit
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 21:55 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 23:58 |
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Tarnop posted:Still waiting to your path to socialism through voting Labour If we give them another 120 years they'll do it
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 21:55 |
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Nothingtoseehere posted:still waiting to your path to socialism through not voting Labour Why?
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 21:57 |
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I can't see Labour becoming a socialist government this decade, or the next. Probably better to start a new party and use that to pressure Labour to go more left, an inversion of UKIP. An unstoppable trump card of people saying what they want rather than just guessing what the worst person they know is likely to vote for.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 21:57 |
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:01 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:We build up the left within the party, elect a left-wing leader and then win an election. We almost did that in between 2015-2017. It was difficult, and will be in future, but we proved it was totally possible. That's a path to a prime minister with left wing ideals
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:02 |
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It'd be good to have a snappy counterargument ready for when people come out with "rrrrmember 2019 vote left wing and get boris". Otherwise it's going to become folklore, like Broon ate all the poonds/cap in hand to the IMF/petrol rationing and other pernicious arguments why good things can never happen. Any ideas?
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:10 |
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Vote left wing get the iraq war. Or "gently caress you, rot in hell and die you worthless sack of poo poo" depending on your choice. I personally would go with the latter.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:12 |
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citation needed
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:16 |
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Endjinneer posted:It'd be good to have a snappy counterargument ready for when people come out with "rrrrmember 2019 vote left wing and get boris". Otherwise it's going to become folklore, like Broon ate all the poonds/cap in hand to the IMF/petrol rationing and other pernicious arguments why good things can never happen. Any ideas? theres a thing called brexit mate you could also drop in 2017 result, the leaked internal sabotage report, historically ridiculous press disinformation too but its the second referendum poo poo which 100% guaranteed the loss
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:17 |
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Every Tuesday my game group plays WFRPG online using Forge. I keep forgetting to post here that canonically Warhammer has a ruler called Boris the Incompetent.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:20 |
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Also Boris Todbringer which would also be apt albeit not in the initially intended meaning.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:22 |
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lmao https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1308496465141137408?s=20
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:29 |
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Is Allison Pearson the one that lusts for granny death?
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:35 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Is Allison Pearson the one that lusts for granny death? That doesn't really narrow it down
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:37 |
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OwlFancier posted:Also Boris Todbringer which would also be apt albeit not in the initially intended meaning. Boris Toddlerleaver surely?
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:37 |
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Tarnop posted:Wait, they're reinstating table service only at pubs and restaurants? When did they lift that restriction? What a loving mess Guidance before, now it's actual rules. And hospitality is a funny one - I'll look for the source but Public Health England put transmissions from hospitality (pubs/bars/restaurant) at under 5% of cases, compared with 40% from care homes, 15% from workplaces and 26% from educational settings. I just don't get the "close an hour early" mentality, especially when the majority of workers there are on hourly pay.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:38 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:Just absolutely at the idea that the thread is a hotbed of violent sedition that is only kept under wraps by a consideration for appropriate OPSEC. GCHQ can't read spoiler tags.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:41 |
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Good on her, not as if COVID-19 has shown to give people of any age long term health problems.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:41 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Is Allison Pearson the one that lusts for granny death? Yes, but also the one who wrote the article "Generation ME must take this pandemic seriously"
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:42 |
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Which one is generation ME? They've all been called that since at least the ones who thought they won the war when they were 5.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:44 |
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Jose posted:citation needed Not really, and how exactly would someone even cite a year+ of discourse? If you're actually saying the UKMT wasn't extremely pro-second ref throughout 2019 then ok jan
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:44 |
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The poo poo one that was released around 2000 and was immediately superceded by the far more popular subsequent release.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:45 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Is Allison Pearson the one that lusts for granny death? She's the one who blathered on about how easy A-levels were until one of her unfortunate offspring only got a C or something then she had it in for the exam boards. In the covid article she quotes someone as saying: quote:I am feeling so upset and cross about the whole thing and am not alone amongst my friends,” says Diana, who describes herself angrily as an ex-Tory voter. “We are on the verge of marching or chaining ourselves to some railings (If you're reading on a laptop, right click and view source and you can read the article in amongst the html tags if you don't want to make an account.) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Sep 22, 2020 |
# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:46 |
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Hahaha oh yeah I forgot about that one too. Basically she is a grown rear end woman writing for a major national paper with the emotional and reasoning capacity of a five year old child.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:48 |
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Guavanaut posted:Just casually ignoring that there's an OPSEC guy ITT with a list of all of our names who talks about guns a lot and communicates in heavy codewords once a month. My ears are burning. Also: the chocolate fudge is cooling in the pan, while the vanilla is firm. There are caramel notes, repeat /caramel/ notes. You all know what to do.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:49 |
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Allison Pearson appears to be impressively poo pooquote:Pearson was listed in Spiked in 2007[13] as one of many journalists who had been duped by the anti-MMR campaign. This anti-MMR campaign has contributed to the significant rise in measles cases and complications including death that arise from the disease[14] in the UK and elsewhere.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:49 |
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You could very well make the argument that voting for Labour anyway when they've just moved right or started finding the compromise between racist murder and not racist murder rewards that behavior. If Labour consistently loses votes every time they move to the right, sooner or later the sun will die out.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:50 |
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Unironically hoping that Alison Pearsons idiot son dies of covid.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:50 |
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Red Oktober posted:Guidance before, now it's actual rules. I think the new pub open hours are bizarre. They can't open until 1700? All that does is prevent bar staff earning a living, I can get it if they want to prevent all day drinking but just do that at the weekends. Same with shutting at 2200. If clubs are shut anyway I don't see the point. People will just drink faster and get more pissed. Young people will still want to go out. All this has done is create massive flashpoints around the UK for pissed violence shortly after 2200.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:51 |
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Dogatron posted:I think the new pub open hours are bizarre. They can't open until 1700? All that does is prevent bar staff earning a living, I can get it if they want to prevent all day drinking but just do that at the weekends. 5am.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:54 |
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blunt posted:So we've spent 6 months trying and failing to build a working app (and bunging money to Tory donors etc), meanwhile Singapore is handing out free Bluetooth tokens to anybody who can't or doesn't want to use the app. I was going to go on Holiday to Singapore in March, maybe I could have been stranded there.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:58 |
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blunt posted:5am. Well thank gently caress for that. My dog enjoys his occasional afternoon visit to the local. He has pork scratchings. The Mrs told me 5 and I thought it was pm.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 22:58 |
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endlessmonotony posted:If Labour consistently loses votes every time they move to the right, sooner or later the sun will die out. Why? You're assuming that winning elections is a higher priority than stymying left wing policies, I don't think that assumption is true. You can't discipline Labour by voting Green or whatever and hope they'll learn their lesson and accomodate you more in future. Labour doesn't give the slightest poo poo about your vote and if you're left-wing they would be happier if you were dead, speculating about 'oh if we don't play ball they'll learn to respect us' no they loving won't they won't ever respect you, the entire utitlity of the Labour Party to the left is the True Ending requires us to take it over and use it.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:00 |
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bessantj posted:Allison Pearson appears to be impressively poo poo With a journalistic career like that she could be *checks notes* prime minister
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:06 |
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Vitamin P posted:Labour doesn't give the slightest poo poo about your vote and if you're left-wing they would be happier if you were dead, speculating about 'oh if we don't play ball they'll learn to respect us' no they loving won't they won't ever respect you, the entire utitlity of the Labour Party to the left is the True Ending requires us to take it over and use it. It's possible that they're delusional enough to think they can win an election from the centre right when a fully right wing party exists and is already in power. It's also possible that they're a bunch of grifters that want the free staff cars, expense accounts and offices/london flats that come with being an MP without any of the hassle of actually running anything or making difficult decisions.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:08 |
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endlessmonotony posted:You could very well make the argument that voting for Labour anyway when they've just moved right or started finding the compromise between racist murder and not racist murder rewards that behavior. Electoral boycotts never work out without credible threat of alternative force though, peaceful or otherwise, and even then they usually don't work out well.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:12 |
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Or alternatively they are ardent ideologues and will always support their lovely ideas it however much they fails and however many people they kill.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:12 |
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keep punching joe posted:Unironically hoping that Alison Pearsons idiot son dies of covid. I don't think you do.
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# ? Sep 22, 2020 23:19 |
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Can't stick Rent-a-tool, but this is quite funny: source: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/keir-starmer-labour-speech-virtual-conference-brexit-doncaster-b528826.html quote:Keir Starmer’s big speech: what he said – and what he really meant
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