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quote:There's a comic series called Irredeemable that does this (and has a lot of parallels with The Boys). I'm going to track that down, that's for the recommend! Another Bill fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 15:08
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Grem posted:There's no evidence she is actually bisexual and I've made a list to prove it: Also, even if proven, she's not advancing the bisexual agenda, she just loves to *cause chaos.*
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Sep 23, 2020 15:25
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Grem posted:There's no evidence she is actually bisexual and I've made a list to prove it:
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Sep 23, 2020 15:35
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jabby posted:There's a comic series called Irredeemable that does this (and has a lot of parallels with The Boys). Their superman-expy goes nuts and just terrorises the whole world, like destroying cities on a whim, sinking whole countries into the sea when he thinks one citizen has disrespected him, carving his name across the whole of North America with laser vision, etc. etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredeemable That's...that's an interesting comic. I hope they don't bring aliens into the boys though.
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Sep 23, 2020 15:37
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spacetoaster posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irredeemable the setting of irredeemable is a significantly more accurate pastiche of the dc comics universe. i dont think we’re going to have to worry about the military summoning demons in The Boys
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Sep 23, 2020 15:42
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Right. It was also in a zinc lined box so that explains Homelander couldn't see through it and find it. i wonder if lining poo poo in zinc is actually effective against hiding things from homelander sure he can't see into it, but that should make that box stick out a lot more because who the gently caress makes boxes out of zinc for no reason
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Sep 23, 2020 15:44
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Goast posted:i wonder if lining poo poo in zinc is actually effective against hiding things from homelander Maybe. But to be a pedant, there's a shitload of stuff (including containers) made with zinc.
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Sep 23, 2020 15:46
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Another Bill posted:I'm going to track that down, that's for the recommend! It has a companion series called Incorruptible about
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Sep 23, 2020 15:51
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Goast posted:i wonder if lining poo poo in zinc is actually effective against hiding things from homelander i think HL even says something about the zinc box that translucent is in . that its zinc as a message to HL
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Sep 23, 2020 16:11
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I think that homelander could be beaten by a supe that isn't necessarily as strong/tough as him just because he probably doesn't actually know how to fight. Batman V Superman got me thinking about it. Superman is thought of as undefeatable just because he so outclasses anyone he could face. The moment he's weakened enough to be near regular strength he gets his rear end kicked by batman because he's never actually learned how to fight (because he never had to). Black Noir doesn't seem to have laser eyes, or flight. But he's certainly really strong and tough. And he seems to actually know how to fight (he and the female had it out in the street). I think he (and probably SF too) could probably beat HL, even if he's not able to do all the things HL can do, because he's got enough powers along with knowing how to fight. Does this seem reasonable?
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Sep 23, 2020 16:28
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spacetoaster posted:Does this seem reasonable? There seem to be like, unofficial 'tiers' of supes. Mesmer gets beaten to death by Butcher, and Homelander says that Maeve will die from the impact of the plane crash. Several terrorist supes get cut down by eyebeams, but Stormfront can absorb them without too much damage. I feel like Homelander isn't as invincible as he thinks he is, but the collateral damage from him and SF duking it out? Holy poo poo.
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Sep 23, 2020 16:33
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I think in the comics, Homelander is fast enough to fly through people and have it basically look like spontaneous human combustion. So you’d have to find a way to counter him basically being a flying speedster before the idea of throwing him into a fight multiple supes actually able to damage him becomes an option. Otherwise he just flies through everyone before anybody can react.
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Sep 23, 2020 16:50
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spacetoaster posted:I think that homelander could be beaten by a supe that isn't necessarily as strong/tough as him just because he probably doesn't actually know how to fight. What if Homelander just hovers like 5 meters off the ground where Black Noir can't get him? WHAT THEN??
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Sep 23, 2020 16:51
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:What if Homelander just hovers like 5 meters off the ground where Black Noir can't get him? WHAT THEN?? poo poo!
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Sep 23, 2020 16:52
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He’ll toss a knife, he’s got like 4 of them. Geez.
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Sep 23, 2020 16:54
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Also the knives are zinc
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Sep 23, 2020 17:09
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And forged with a mother’s love.
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Sep 23, 2020 17:19
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If I were managing an invincible superhero, I'd definitely have an "open secret" fake weakness for enemies to plan around. "Yeah, don't tell anyone, but I can't see through zinc!"
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Sep 23, 2020 17:21
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If Homelander's lasers hit a mirror and bounced back, would he cut himself in half?
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Sep 23, 2020 18:09
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PostNouveau posted:If I were managing an invincible superhero, I'd definitely have an "open secret" fake weakness for enemies to plan around. This seems like it would really easy for Vought, oh and BTW in our hero profile their weakness is "insert made up or harmless thing", but don't worry we made their suit extra nice for them so you the public DONT NEED TO WORRY.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:12
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We've seen that Homelander's best attack (ie his laser) doesn't affect Stormfront at all. If I had to pick a superhero to bet on, she would be the one.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:13
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It still burns her pretty badly.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:15
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PostNouveau posted:If I were managing an invincible superhero, I'd definitely have an "open secret" fake weakness for enemies to plan around.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:19
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Bioshuffle posted:We've seen that Homelander's best attack (ie his laser) doesn't affect Stormfront at all. If I had to pick a superhero to bet on, she would be the one. Maybe he wasn't layering at full strength, and she was definitely burning. If he did that to her eyes she might be in a little trouble. but yeah, I think she could probably take him, especially since I think he'd get scared and try to fly away as soon as he realized he wasn't going to easily demolish her. Homelander's biggest weakness may be his feelings for his son, so I wouldn't be surprised if SF would make some move in that direction.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:21
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Aphrodite posted:It still burns her pretty badly. PostNouveau posted:If I were managing an invincible superhero, I'd definitely have an "open secret" fake weakness for enemies to plan around. This was a plot point in MegaMind where MetroMan got sick of being a super hero and suddenly pretended he was vulnerable to Copper. MegaMind is so convinced this is a thing that he used a copper contraption as a failsafe against Tighten (which didn't work, of course). So fake vulnerability is definitely an option for when a supe wants to hang up the cape.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:23
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yook posted:I think in the comics, Homelander is fast enough to fly through people and have it basically look like spontaneous human combustion. So you’d have to find a way to counter him basically being a flying speedster before the idea of throwing him into a fight multiple supes actually able to damage him becomes an option. Otherwise he just flies through everyone before anybody can react. It actually annoys me a bit how HL saved Butcher and the baby from the explosion at the end of season one. If you can move so fast that you can get two people out of a building in between a detonator being pushed and the explosion reaching them, you can basically do anything. Super-speed is huge plot-hole fodder because no matter what happens you question why HL doesn't just fix the situation before anybody else can blink. Bioshuffle posted:We've seen that Homelander's best attack (ie his laser) doesn't affect Stormfront at all. If I had to pick a superhero to bet on, she would be the one. Eh, they gave her some pretty nasty burns and I'm fairly sure that was the low setting. So far we've seen nothing actually damage Homelander.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:23
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Maybe he wasn't layering at full strength, and she was definitely burning. If he did that to her eyes she might be in a little trouble. but yeah, I think she could probably take him, especially since I think he'd get scared and try to fly away as soon as he realized he wasn't going to easily demolish her.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:26
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My superhero weakness is buffalo wings. Please do not send me a lot of buffalo wings.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:27
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jabby posted:Eh, they gave her some pretty nasty burns and I'm fairly sure that was the low setting. So far we've seen nothing actually damage Homelander. Getting the street dropped on him slowed him down enough for an escape. The only thing I can remember even resembling someone damaging him until Stormfront started throwing him around. And of course Homeboy, who I think you're supposed to assume is his eventual equal, shoving him.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:37
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Panfilo posted:His biggest weakness is being lied to. Everyone is so terrified of him that they'll tell him whatever he wants to hear, so he gets surrounded by yes men. Nobody genuinely loves him and he is very lonely. He craves validation but nobody can be sincere to a man who can laser them down to atoms. Yup, he has zero understanding of human psychology, and instead goes off cardiovascular markers that can mean many things.
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Sep 23, 2020 18:43
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As Nero Danced posted:This is my expectation. He'll fantasize throwing someone up into the air, punching someone's head off, lasering someone in half for a petty reason, stuff like that. Until one time he does it for real, and he'll either panic or decide to revel in it. Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven, right? Homelander fakes his own death, sews himself up inside a couch to eavesdrop on Vought employees talking about him at the company Christmas party
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Sep 23, 2020 18:52
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jabby posted:Eh, they gave her some pretty nasty burns and I'm fairly sure that was the low setting. So far we've seen nothing actually damage Homelander. I went back and watched that scene. He laser's her for a pretty long time and it just discolors her skin (and makes a sizzle sound). I think he does have control of the power (not instantly burning through that lady's head in season 1), but the question now is how much power was he hitting stormfront with?
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Sep 23, 2020 18:59
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spacetoaster posted:I went back and watched that scene. He laser's her for a pretty long time and it just discolors her skin (and makes a sizzle sound). I still hope that he was using a super low setting so that when they do finally have their showdown and you are expecting some big epic CGI brawl he just casually lasers her in half.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:03
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spacetoaster posted:I went back and watched that scene. He laser's her for a pretty long time and it just discolors her skin (and makes a sizzle sound). He used it to heat milk, we know he definitely has power control.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:04
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Do we know for a fact Homelander just sped Butcher and the baby? He might have just lasered the line between the trigger and the bomb, knocked Butcher out, and triggered the bomb himself afterwards to cover up what he did. The rest's editing. edit: (what he did to Stillwell) itry fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 19:06
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itry posted:Do we know for a fact Homelander just sped Butcher and the baby? He might have just lasered the line between the trigger and the bomb, knocked Butcher out, and triggered the bomb himself afterwards to cover up what he did. The rest's editing. iirc there was a new report saying there was an explosion at Stillwell's house. So unless he did what you said then want back and set it off, that seems unlikely. Homelander force: I ain't gotta explain poo poo
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Sep 23, 2020 19:07
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PostNouveau posted:Getting the street dropped on him slowed him down enough for an escape. The only thing I can remember even resembling someone damaging him until Stormfront started throwing him around. And of course Homeboy, who I think you're supposed to assume is his eventual equal, shoving him. Knocking him around isn't damaging him though. He's shown he isn't immune to being moved by thrown objects or super-strong individuals, but so far nothing has put a scratch on him. This is similar to Maeve but in contrast to Black Noir/Kimiko/Stormfront who can survive a lot but still show signs of injury. spacetoaster posted:I went back and watched that scene. He laser's her for a pretty long time and it just discolors her skin (and makes a sizzle sound). When he first says "I'll cut you in half" and she insists he zap her anyway he seems pretty reluctant. I think he only turns it on for a split second until she's proven she can take it. This leads me to suspect he wasn't using his full power because he knows he'd get in shitloads of trouble if he just blew a hole right through her. jabby fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 19:08
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:iirc there was a new report saying there was an explosion at Stillwell's house. So unless he did what you said then want back and set it off, that seems unlikely. It's likelier than him just stripping Butcher of a bomb vest in a faster than light speed, is all I'm saying.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:10
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Aphrodite posted:He used it to heat milk, we know he definitely has power control. Comics spoilers I still can't believe they took that away from M.M. I mean, I understand it doesn't work on television but it was a great character thing too. Like, here's this super smart and powerful person but he withers without his milk. I only read to about #65, so maybe I'm missing a lot. And while I'm talking about comic vs tv show: Does anyone else get the vibe that there's a going to be a big reveal that all the Boys have taken / been taking Compound V and keeping it a secret from Hughie?
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Sep 23, 2020 19:15
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Speaking of him lasering her tits, I did get a laugh imagining how that scene looked as acted, before the CGI was added. Just staring at her tits with maximum intensity.Another Bill posted:And while I'm talking about comic vs tv show: I can't really see it. Butcher gets flattened by Translucent, and none of them have really demonstrated any superhuman abilities. Plus if MM or Butcher had a supply of V why would one of their main goals be getting some to release to the media? Personally I thought having The Boys be superpowered themselves was a bit of a flaw in the comics. You can't take the piss out of superheroes effectively when your gritty protagonists are superheroes. jabby fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 19:16
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