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That was Captain Kirk! The TOS quarters set didn't have windows, so none of the officers did. As a side note, I love how they built the captain's quarters set and used it for Kirk and then reused it for everyone else, but to differentiate it for everyone else they'd have all these cool homey decorations, so it just comes off as Kirk being the only one lazy and boring enough to live in bare walls and maybe a potplant. Kirk's just I AM STANDARD HUMAN PERSON  and spock and uhura are all 'hey sup I have a personality and culture'  
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MikeJF posted:It's got more deck space than an aircraft carrier, the thing is massive. Fifteen decks for a hundred fifty people! If they took that bottom fin off I really like this one.
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Sep 24, 2020 05:26
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TOS was one of those shows where it was somehow both stupid expensive to make and yet looker super cheap for some reason.
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Sep 24, 2020 05:28
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Grand Fromage posted:If they took that bottom fin off I really like this one. The general layout with the pod is kinda close to what they went with for riker's ship in the books/comics/games. Except with an oval saucer and different details.  I'm still pulling for the Titan to turn up on Lower Decks. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 05:29
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The Titan looks great and, iirc, was designed by a fan for a book cover contest.
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Sep 24, 2020 05:39
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Technowolf posted:For a moment I thought you were talking poo poo about Kurn and we were gonna have to throw down. It would have been great if Worf's lovely human brother was also played by Tony Todd.
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Sep 24, 2020 06:01
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Ladies and gentlemen Beverly Crusher has been sexually assaulted by a ghost I finally made it. I finally saw this trash dump. Absolutely amazing.
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Sep 24, 2020 06:33
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MikeJF posted:... This was always my favorite of the prototype Voyager designs.
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Sep 24, 2020 06:51
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nine-gear crow posted:TOS was one of those shows where it was somehow both stupid expensive to make and yet looker super cheap for some reason. It's because so much stuff had to be made for the show, either from scratch or by kitbashing random stuff they found around town. You couldn't just go rent a disruptor pistol or a Starfleet uniform like you could a tommy gun or a US Air Force uniform. And on a 26 episode/year production schedule, there's not a whole lot of time to lovingly craft intricate props and sets.
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Sep 24, 2020 07:10
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The whole modern industry of SFX and VFX were literally just getting started when TOS started airing; before then television was a realm of sitcoms, westerns, and some cop shows for variety. We take so much of this stuff for granted nowadays that we sometimes forget TOS was quite literally writing the book on how to do these things.
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Sep 24, 2020 07:40
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8one6 posted:This was always my favorite of the prototype Voyager designs. It's funny to think that Voyager is considerably larger than Kirk's Enterprise, but only has a quarter of the crew. It's no wonder that guy from 'Good Shepherd' basically had a whole deck to himself.
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Sep 24, 2020 08:11
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's because so much stuff had to be made for the show, either from scratch or by kitbashing random stuff they found around town. You couldn't just go rent a disruptor pistol or a Starfleet uniform like you could a tommy gun or a US Air Force uniform. And on a 26 episode/year production schedule, there's not a whole lot of time to lovingly craft intricate props and sets. There were massive issues too. Like, most of the really good stuff that they got for season one like the communicators or tricorder or the romulan bird of prey studio model or the hand phasers were done under the table by Wah Chang because his quality was better than others and much faster but he was too asian to get into the propmaker union. Or like how the original plan was to have all of the screens on the TOS bridge above stations, these ones:  animated constantly with readouts and ship data, but rules required a projectionist for each one and that was far too expensive, despite that they could've run on a loop by themselves happily. Things just... weren't set up for this.
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Sep 24, 2020 08:56
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8one6 posted:This was always my favorite of the prototype Voyager designs.  I think it looks much nicer than the Voyager we got, which as someone said, has no good angles.
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Sep 24, 2020 12:52
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Marshal Radisic posted:The whole modern industry of SFX and VFX were literally just getting started when TOS started airing; before then television was a realm of sitcoms, westerns, and some cop shows for variety. We take so much of this stuff for granted nowadays that we sometimes forget TOS was quite literally writing the book on how to do these things. There’s a universe where Star Trek never got off the ground because of this and this thread is about My Favorite Martian
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Sep 24, 2020 16:15
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MikeJF posted:Hey speaking of nerdy stuff, part of my current projects involves cleaning up some ship blueprints from over the years, because the original prints weren't great quality even at high-res scans. Peep these: http://www.jbot.ca/space/1hc.shtml
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Sep 24, 2020 16:40
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As kid I kind of liked how Voyager looked because it looked like a "more futuristic extension of the Galaxy look!" due to Sternbach's obsession with grebbles and also the stupid beginning of "pointy dagger ships = AWESOME" crutch that Eaves grabbed and started running with. I realize now that as a kid I was dumb. Constitution and Galaxy class 4 life.
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Sep 24, 2020 16:47
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Ambassador Class, dawg
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Sep 24, 2020 16:53
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The TNG era Constitution class in Star Trek Online looked pretty good imo Although I do like that underslung nacelle design on Proto-Voyager. It looks better than it does on the Akira/NX class. I think the ratio is better or something.
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Sep 24, 2020 17:11
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Something about the nacelles being underneath the ship looks good to me, as a general rule. Stuff like the Parliament class from Lower Decks, or Nebula class. Nebula looks a bit stout since the drive section is just kinda attached directly to the saucer, but it works.
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Sep 24, 2020 17:19
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i don't know any of the names of the ships. there's Enterprise I, TNG Enterprise, Chonky TNG Enterprise, some others
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Sep 24, 2020 17:38
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I mean it makes sense when you remember all the times they had to phone down to engineering and go "can you get us to warp 9," etc. I imagine it's not all necessarily automated, it takes a significant amount of prep and manpower to hit those top speeds Rewatching season 3 I forgot that they do actually try to sell the idea that warp 9 is effectively "overdrive". Edit: Also I like the 3 nacelle Galaxy, it really sells the ship as a relic that is still clinging to relevance. It's like the ship design version of Shatner's hair. PerniciousKnid fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 17:54
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It takes a lot of strong men shoveling dilithium into the warp core to hit 9
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It takes a lot of strong men shoveling dilithium into the warp core to hit 9 That's one of the things I like from the TOS movies. The engine room seems like it has 42,000 stokers down there getting slaughtered by the hundreds while no one seems to remember that they exist.
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MikeJF posted:The two main ideas they played with was engines that extend/move/have bits on them, or some kind of 'tactical mode' transformation. I like the idea of extendable flaps and a dorsal fin. Makes it look even faster if there's extra ways to brake. Of course, having any kind of resemblance to aerodynamics is contrary to the whole Star Trek design ethos, so the reason I like it is because it's less star trekky. curiousTerminal posted:Imagine being the poor assholes who live in the middle of the deck and have absolutely zero windows so they can't even see whatever weird space anomaly is going to kill them while they hunker down in quarters. If they got fancy viewscreens, then they could probably fake it and never know the difference. It helps remind viewers that the show is in space, but on the ship there's really not that much to see when 99% of the time it's just gonna be a field of stars. nine-gear crow posted:TOS was one of those shows where it was somehow both stupid expensive to make and yet looker super cheap for some reason. If you compare it to Doctor Who, it looks much more expensive. Special effects age really badly. I think there's also a whole thing of the original series going for an aesthetic that modern eyes don't like. It's specifically exaggerating color instead of muting it or shifting to teal/orange. It looks fantastical in a way that modern designers really don't like doing. Maybe also there's the fact that they're exaggerating color with broken color technology so that it's a really weird palette.
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SlothfulCobra posted:... Sweet Pelor this. TOS looks cheap today but the main villains of Dr Who of the same era had plungers and egg whisks for hands.
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Budget facts! TOS's Season 1 budget in the 60s was $190,000 per 45 minute episode (~$1.4 million today), while Doctor Who's 60's budget was £2000 per 25 minute episode (~£46,000 today). Even for the BBC at the time, that was considered low budget.
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Yeah for a TV show it was pretty amazing. Almost no one else was really trying to do what they did because in most cases it would've looked even worse.
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Riker, Data, and Worf are stuck in a fake casino simulation for a dead astronaut...the stakes could not be lower today, on Star Trek. The solution doesn't even make sense! Why does the simulation care if they follow the story?
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Athanatos posted:Why does the simulation care if they follow the story? More like being in a WoW raid than roaming around Azeroth.
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Athanatos posted:Riker, Data, and Worf are stuck in a fake casino simulation for a dead astronaut...the stakes could not be lower today, on Star Trek. Technically I think it's a schizophrenic episode of the one simulation being run accidentally emulating too much of its setting and finding a more interesting character. I always felt like I missed some episode explaining why Quark just has a sentient program, but nope.
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Athanatos posted:Riker, Data, and Worf are stuck in a fake casino simulation for a dead astronaut...the stakes could not be lower today, on Star Trek. Uhhh because that episode is great and the plot doesn’t matter  
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SlothfulCobra posted:
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I'm trying to draw some Star Trek fan art but drat, Federation ships are a pain in the rear end to draw from practically any angle.
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socialsecurity posted:Combo that with a Ent-D that plays records and a Voyager Ipod and I'm on board. There should also be an Enterprise Zune then.
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Sep 24, 2020 22:00
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A Betamax player in the shape of the Ralph McQuarrie Enterprise.
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A Daedalus-class Super 8 projector.
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Sep 24, 2020 23:00
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They just built some in-fill on the front part of the White Base from Gundam for that original Voyager concept. Applesauce!
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Give me the abandoned Final Frontier animated series Enterprise-F, -G, or -H: Ya'll motherfuckers want to talk about a Space VCR. THIS is a Space VCR. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 23:33
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Why does that just look like someone glued an aircraft carrier to their star trek model sideways.
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nine-gear crow posted:Give me the abandoned Final Frontier animated series Enterprise-F, -G, or -H: In a universe that contains both Star Trek Online and DeviantArt this is still the ugliest starfleet ship design ever.
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