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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Taintrunner posted:

Like I said, this is about 2037. My napkin math, which is probably way off, comparing cargo ships to a modern naval vessel, would round out to about 4-5 days. Jam some satellites, blame it on Starlink debris, whatever the gently caress it takes to buy you as much time as possible. Which gets into the interesting question of a naval shooting war, it's been nearly a loving century since the last one, and the technology has rapidly shifted, but the reality of aircraft carriers being virtually defenseless tin cans still stands. The Chinese navy has 335 vessels as of today against the 296 vessels of the US Navy, and the Chinese would rapidly expand in force projection capability between now and a hypothetical 2037 scenario. Again, I think the best guess is sheer loving numbers, which is what any nonsensical Chinese Red Dawn scenario would have to consider.

Sea power is based on aircraft carrier fleets.

China has a single rust bucket of a aircraft carrier they can sail around the bay for a few hours before it has to be towed back and duct taped back to functional.

Their pilots get 1/50 of the flight time that US pilots get.

The US Navy and Airforce would literally be shooting fish in a barrel once the ships pass the point of any air power force projection from mainland China.

It'll just be like when Taiwan was just running over PLA troops with tanks after they ran out of ammunition because there was nothing the PLA could do to stop them.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Not a single liberal has a loving answer for what to do about QAnon, even if Biden somehow wins, and they sure as gently caress are not going away anytime soon. Folding Ideas spends about an hour going into detail about the progression of Flat Earth conspiracy theorists into full-blown QAnon lunatics, and what they're all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

To save your time and cut to the point - what Dan gets into is the idea that Flat Earth Theory (and now QAnon) is not about convincing people that the world is flat. It's about hammering the earth flat. It's all insane, and they know this. It's nothing but pure blunt force ideology of embracing strongman fascism. And these quisling loving liberals have zero answer or any way to formulate opposition to it. Hell, most leftists don't either. And there's really nothing stopping them now from radicalizing more and more people as neoliberalism has pledged to do nothing but grow the austerity cesspool from which fascism ferments in.



In 2016, Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton unintentionally summarized the plot of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 1 (2007) as a potential scenario where her foreign policy strength made her a stronger candidate than Donald Trump, suggesting fundamentalist Islamists in Pakistan could seize control of a nuclear weapon. As a refresher:

quote:

The second operation takes them to Russia in order to rescue one of their allies, a Russian informant named Nikolai working within the Ultranationalist party. Assisted by Russian loyalist forces, Price's team succeeds in rescuing Nikolai. However, their helicopter is later brought down, forcing the group to make their way through enemy territory with support from an AC-130 gunship before they can be extracted. Intelligence gathered from these two missions indicates that Al-Asad may be in possession of a Russian nuclear device.

In the evening of the third day, the U.S. launches a full-scale assault on Al-Asad's presidential palace, aware of the SAS warning about the possible nuclear device. As U.S. Navy SEALs invade the palace, the Marines engage Al-Asad's ground forces. The assault, however, ends in catastrophe when the nuclear device suddenly detonates, wiping out most of the city along with everyone in it.

Refusing to assume Al-Asad dead, Price's strike team supported by Russian loyalists raids a potential safe house in a village in Azerbaijan to eradicate the occupying Russian forces and capture Al-Asad. Shortly into the interrogation, Al-Asad's phone rings. After hearing the voice of the caller, Price executes Al-Asad and reveals that the caller was the leader of the ultranationalists: Imran Zakhaev. Price informs his squad about his assassination mission against Zakhaev in Pripyat, Ukraine in 1996. In the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster and the collapse of the Soviet Union, Zakhaev took advantage of the turmoil to profit from nuclear proliferation and used his new wealth to lure soldiers from the Soviet Army to form his ultranationalist party. Price, then a lieutenant, and his superior, Captain MacMillan, were sent on a black operation to eliminate him. Making their way through Pripyat and into Chernobyl, the two reached their vantage point in an abandoned hotel, with Price firing upon Zakhaev with a Barrett M82 sniper rifle; however, the shot only severed Zakhaev's arm. Price and MacMillan barely escaped Zakhaev's henchmen.

Following the death of Al-Asad, Price's team hold off against Ultranationalist forces who arrive to avenge him. Later, a joint task force, composed of the SAS, Force Recon, and the loyalists, attempt to capture Zakhaev's son, Victor, to learn Zakhaev's whereabouts. After ambushing him in an enemy convoy at a vehicle checkpoint, Victor flees the scene but is soon cornered on the roof of an apartment building. Refusing to surrender, he commits suicide. Enraged, Zakhaev retaliates by taking control of a nuclear launch facility.

An operation is launched by the task force to take back the site from Zakhaev's forces via halo jump. However, Zakhaev promptly launches nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles at the U.S. Eastern Seaboard, with the potential of causing 41 million casualties.


Now, nobody in the media, or on the global political stage, noticed this or bothered to point it out as completely laughable or preposterous. As we run the risk of an apocalyptic fundamentalist cult rising to power (multiple QAnon believers have won seats in Congress) and the state is in the process of rapidly destabilizing itself, what's to suggest that we're unable to become the butt of the joke here, becoming the flashpoint of a videogame millions of Americans children were indoctrinated by?

Taintrunner has issued a correction as of 05:52 on Sep 25, 2020

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

pentyne posted:

Sea power is based on aircraft carrier fleets.

China has a single rust bucket of a aircraft carrier they can sail around the bay for a few hours before it has to be towed back and duct taped back to functional.

Their pilots get 1/50 of the flight time that US pilots get.

The US Navy and Airforce would literally be shooting fish in a barrel once the ships pass the point of any air power force projection from mainland China.

Aircraft carriers are nigh-defenseless floating coffins and you are vastly overstating their importance. :colbert:

Square Peg
Nov 11, 2008

Lmao, aircraft carriers
The USA is also the leader in stealth fighters and robot dogs if you want to talk about stupid useless military boondoggles

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug
Just gonna say that Sparrow War 2 is still more likely than the Chinese even wanting to invade and occupy the mainland US within the foreseeable future.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

who would win: china or goku

elaboration
Feb 21, 2020
sun wukong u imperialist

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

T-man posted:

who would win: china or goku

surprise win by the vietnamese

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

Taintrunner posted:

Not a single liberal has a loving answer for what to do about QAnon, even if Biden somehow wins, and they sure as gently caress are not going away anytime soon. Folding Ideas spends about an hour going into detail about the progression of Flat Earth conspiracy theorists into full-blown QAnon lunatics, and what they're all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

To save your time and cut to the point - what Dan gets into is the idea that Flat Earth Theory (and now QAnon) is not about convincing people that the world is flat. It's about hammering the earth flat. It's all insane, and they know this. It's nothing but pure blunt force ideology of embracing strongman fascism. And these quisling loving liberals have zero answer or any way to formulate opposition to it. Hell, most leftists don't either. And there's really nothing stopping them now from radicalizing more and more people as neoliberalism has pledged to do nothing but grow the austerity cesspool from which fascism ferments in.


Thanks, I tried to watch that video last week and I couldn’t get to the point of it because I realized I wasn’t going to watch a dude talk about flat earth poo poo over a lake travel vlog for an hour and 15.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Trixie Hardcore posted:

Thanks, I tried to watch that video last week and I couldn’t get to the point of it because I realized I wasn’t going to watch a dude talk about flat earth poo poo over a lake travel vlog for an hour and 15.

oh you missed out, it goes some loving places. the twist about halfway through of oh yeah nobody gives a poo poo about flat earth anymore and they all jumped ship to qanon was a legitimately great reveal

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I just went to a random position in the middle where it was comparing the old school 9/11 conspiracy with the QAnon version and drat, that's a whole lot of subtle differences that I guess they've stayed up all night for years thinking of.

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

Taintrunner posted:

oh you missed out, it goes some loving places. the twist about halfway through of oh yeah nobody gives a poo poo about flat earth anymore and they all jumped ship to qanon was a legitimately great reveal

Then the obvious answer to stop Qanon is wait for them to jump to a new even crazier conspiracy theory. If you really cared you’d think of one.

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
I have an in-law that’s into Q poo poo and while you will never get her to take her schizophrenia meds you could probably get her to jump ship on Q with a crazier or more personalized conspiracy theory, especially if putting essential oils on loving everything protects you from the conspiracy.

50s girl groupon
Jul 17, 2010

I woke up like this

T-man posted:

who would win: china or goku

Psy by a landslide

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Lol a bunch of regular Tom Clancys itt. It was enlightening to find out that not having any transport planes or boats is not an impediment for launching the invasion of the third largest country in the world which also lies across the widest ocean in the world, also that being hit with naval actually missiles don't matter if you believe in yourself .

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHakm25yMZo

subtitles on

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Antonymous posted:

I just finished the whole wiki and it says stuff like "expert testified that George Anthony did not make phone calls to Casey, but then later admitted he did not know George Anthony had a second phone"

the way you wrote 'finished the whole wiki' i had this image of a wikiproject specifically about casey anthony cinematic universe, the way you get for videogames

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


T-man posted:

I'm not in the top 100 for posts per day in cspam :(

mods putting you down with their probies smh

Clibanarius
Sep 22, 2020

by Athanatos

Taintrunner posted:

Not a single liberal has a loving answer for what to do about QAnon, even if Biden somehow wins, and they sure as gently caress are not going away anytime soon. Folding Ideas spends about an hour going into detail about the progression of Flat Earth conspiracy theorists into full-blown QAnon lunatics, and what they're all about.

I have a solution, but it's not one you can speak about openly, sadly. Well, I will say part of it is observing your friends and loved ones and coworkers online and making a mental list of the names of those who are Qanon followers, though.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:

In the chaos, paratroopers are deployed to secure every active nuclear missile silo before CENTCOM can formulate an organized response.

This is my favorite part of the fever dream post. The part where red dawn takes hold before... the command HQ'd out of Tampa and responsible for solely for the Middle East, of all portions of the DOD, can formulate a response to the Pacific naval battle and invasion of the US homeland from Mexico or something.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
the chinese super officers ran past the American bases and ignored the map objectives to unleash all their musou attacks on Trump and the us forces were defeated but they only got rank C on the mission

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Taintrunner posted:

Day 0 - Chinese special forces, acting in a manner similar to Green Berets backing hard right coups in Latin America, silently appear and promise aid, arms, and direct support to socialist rifle militias across the country

LOL. Day 0, first thing the Chinese have to do, they have to make contact with the socialist gun clubs. Those 37 weirdos will be crucial to conquering America.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
immediately turning my Chinese supplied antimaterial rifle to blowing up the computers of bad posters

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Tiler Kiwi posted:

immediately turning my Chinese supplied antimaterial rifle to blowing up the computers of bad posters

You think you’re good enough to shoot this phone out of my hand? :smug:

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
they're big bullets so they are easier to aim with

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
China will occupy North Korea before they deploy a singly military unit in North America.

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


Paladinus posted:

North Korea will occupy China before they deploy a singly military unit in North America.

RustyKnight
Jul 11, 2016

every day is a new horror



china will just stick to securing nine-dash line in South China Sea and maybe some Pacific, and also colonialism in africa

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
China literally got into a cliff-top fist fight with India last month, but yeah in case of global instability they'll go invade America before worrying about India

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

spacemang_spliff posted:

Mods struck taintrunner down and he has returned more powerful than they could possibly imagine

Brrrmph
Feb 27, 2016

Слава Україні!
Why would any other country want to invade this shithole? Far more likely they build a wall around us to keep us in.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Did you know: in the event of the US military not being centrally organized anymore, all of the guns and bullets and tanks and giant air force anime swords they have will just despawn to save RAM and no one can use them. This is core to the Chinese plan.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Crazycryodude posted:

How did they get 30 million troops across the Pacific?

China can't even invade Taiwan, there's no way they're doing poo poo to the US.


Also, this:

pentyne posted:

It'll just be like when Taiwan was just running over PLA troops with tanks after they ran out of ammunition because there was nothing the PLA could do to stop them.

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

I can't really blame goons for thinking China Mountain Zhang is way more utopian than any future we're likely to actually get

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


China will create a rail network over the newly constructed berring strait land bridge obviously

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Personally I would simply sink the entire Chinese invasion fleet with my SSN-774 "Virginia"-class nuclear powered cruise missile fast-attack submarine

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Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1309504068742713345

flexing on my dead boss by blasting out a quick set while she lies in state

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