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Putzhilfe und Schwarzarbeit: irgendwelche Tips, wie man das legal hinbekommt? Kann ich einfach mehr zu zahlen anbieten, damit sie sich ohne Verlust für die sozialversicherungspflichtig einstellen lässt?
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Sep 25, 2020 10:37
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Cingulate posted:Genossenschaften and FAANG companies are good examples of applied socialism: ownership over the means of production by the workers. means of wohning
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Sep 25, 2020 11:42
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ownership of the means of production is a part of a bigger meme, which is: decommodification and decommodification can be applied to housing too
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Sep 25, 2020 11:51
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Mithaldu posted:ownership of the means of production is a part of a bigger meme, which is: decommodification
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Sep 25, 2020 11:58
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Cingulate posted:Genossenschaften and FAANG companies are good examples of applied socialism: ownership over the means of production by the workers. Der Post kommt ins Gewürzregal.
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Sep 25, 2020 12:11
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GABA ghoul posted:means of wohning Close. weans off owning
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Sep 25, 2020 12:16
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pidan posted:I think it means oliwan is technically becoming a landlord gently caress...
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Sep 25, 2020 15:00
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. Congrats!
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Worse, actually. Technically, oliwan would become a shareholder and investor in a for-profit landlord undertaking targeting dwellings in areas hit by gentrification.
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Sep 25, 2020 16:27
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for one, even if you don't completely decouple from the markets yet you can distance yourself and build buffers for the other "owning msft" is owning capital which you only hold conceptually and from which you get money, a balcony (if it is in an apartment you actually use and don't rent out) is private property whose main value is that it's useful to you personally with very few indirections
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Sep 25, 2020 16:30
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Randler posted:Worse, actually. Technically, oliwan would become a shareholder and investor in a for-profit landlord undertaking targeting dwellings in areas hit by gentrification. Holy poo poo. First the tax evasion and now this. That oliwan guy is shady as gently caress
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Sep 25, 2020 17:29
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Cingulate posted:Putzhilfe und Schwarzarbeit: irgendwelche Tips, wie man das legal hinbekommt? Kann ich einfach mehr zu zahlen anbieten, damit sie sich ohne Verlust für die sozialversicherungspflichtig einstellen lässt? Kommt drauf an. Putzt die Person hauptberuflich, ohne in einem sozialversicherungspflichtigen Arbeitsverhältnis zu stehen? Dann meiner (begrenzten) Erfahrung nach eher nicht. Wenn die Person nur nebenher putzt, dann geht das für euch beide relativ einfach. Siehe die Seiten der Minijob Zentrale. Das Problem ist, soweit ich das einschätzen kann, das man relativ schnell aus den staatlichen Hilfeleistungen rausfällt, sobald man in mehreren Haushalten putzt. Du, und alle anderen Arbeitgeber, müssten also so viel mehr zahlen, dass die Person wegfallende Hilfeleistungen kompensieren kann.
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Sep 25, 2020 19:20
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Shall I wait for this load to get red before transplanting from Hochbeet to indoor pot? On one ✋ its getting cold, on the other ✋ in afraid transplantation stress might make the plant abort the fruits? Does it work that way? What do? PS most of the flowers actually made a fruit. Yay niethan fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Sep 25, 2020 19:41
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i dunno anything about them but it be getting very cold unrelated: https://twitter.com/PolizeiSachsen/status/1309510525974441985
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Sep 25, 2020 20:03
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Cingulate posted:Putzhilfe und Schwarzarbeit: irgendwelche Tips, wie man das legal hinbekommt? Kann ich einfach mehr zu zahlen anbieten, damit sie sich ohne Verlust für die sozialversicherungspflichtig einstellen lässt?
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Sep 25, 2020 20:24
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DTurtle posted:Maybe look at this test from Stiftung Warentest? ZeitGeits posted:Kommt drauf an. Putzt die Person hauptberuflich, ohne in einem sozialversicherungspflichtigen Arbeitsverhältnis zu stehen? Dann meiner (begrenzten) Erfahrung nach eher nicht. Wenn die Person nur nebenher putzt, dann geht das für euch beide relativ einfach. Siehe die Seiten der Minijob Zentrale.
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Sep 25, 2020 20:50
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niethan posted:Shall I wait for this load to get red before transplanting from Hochbeet to indoor pot? On one ✋ its getting cold, on the other ✋ in afraid transplantation stress might make the plant abort the fruits? Does it work that way? What do? Since you still have flowers on it, waiting for everyone to get red is a losing game. I have no idea about what happens when transplanting it, but maybe the green ones are usable too so you can pluck them before the move.
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Sep 25, 2020 21:20
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Cingulate posted:this is why we need a UBI!!!! It would be a start if more people would be willing to pay an honest wage for such services, no UBI required. But I guess exploiting foreign and female workers is a time honoured tradition of our first world societies.
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Sep 25, 2020 21:38
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ZeitGeits posted:But I guess exploiting foreign and female workers is a time honoured tradition of our first world societies. Show me a place female labor isn't exploited
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Sep 25, 2020 21:43
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niethan posted:Show me a place female labor isn't exploited True.
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Sep 25, 2020 21:53
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ZeitGeits posted:It would be a start if more people would be willing to pay an honest wage for such services, no UBI required. But I guess exploiting foreign and female workers is a time honoured tradition of our first world societies. That’s dumb. Just give a UBI!
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Sep 25, 2020 21:55
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Yeah, the fact that the marginal tax rate for poor people earning a bit more can quickly jump above 100% is just ridiculous. And yet it is often rich (or high earning) people complaining about the high (marginal) tax rates they have to pay. Hard cut-offs are just stupid.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:43
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DTurtle posted:Yeah, the fact that the marginal tax rate for poor people earning a bit more can quickly jump above 100% is just ridiculous. And yet it is often rich (or high earning) people complaining about the high (marginal) tax rates they have to pay. But the solution for the hard cutoff for low earners is so obvious!
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Sep 25, 2020 23:47
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DTurtle posted:Yeah, the fact that the marginal tax rate for poor people earning a bit more can quickly jump above 100% is just ridiculous. And yet it is often rich (or high earning) people complaining about the high (marginal) tax rates they have to pay. It‘s less the tax rate and more a matter of Abgaben kicking in and no longer being eligible for certain welfare transfers. When I look at my Lohnzettel, it‘s mainly the Sozialabgaben cutting into my Netto. But you‘re right about hard cut-offs being unfair.
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Sep 26, 2020 14:36
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Einbauschrank posted:It‘s less the tax rate and more a matter of Abgaben kicking in and no longer being eligible for certain welfare transfers. When I look at my Lohnzettel, it‘s mainly the Sozialabgaben cutting into my Netto. But you‘re right about hard cut-offs being unfair.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:17
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Einbauschrank posted:It‘s less the tax rate and more a matter of Abgaben kicking in and no longer being eligible for certain welfare transfers. When I look at my Lohnzettel, it‘s mainly the Sozialabgaben cutting into my Netto. But you‘re right about hard cut-offs being unfair. Poor people can easily pay more than a 100% marginal „tax rate.“ As a high earner that is never, ever the case. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Sep 26, 2020 17:06
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DTurtle posted:What is the difference between getting less money from the state and paying more taxes as you start earning more money? In practical effect there isn‘t. In both cases you are being „punished“ for earning more money. Paying more taxes or getting less welfare should be treated the same, just as getting more welfare and getting various subsidies for things like renovating the house you own should be treated the same. You are completely right about being punished for earning more in certain lower income brackets (not the lowest decile IIRC). I'm being anal about this "marginal tax" because the main culprits are the (mainly nonprogressive) Sozialabgaben and the way Transferleistungen work, not taxes themselves. https://www.wiwo.de/finanzen/steuern-recht/fehlanreize-im-steuer-und-sozialsystem-hoeheres-einkommen-kann-aermer-machen/20201132.html This makes it a viable min-maxing strategy to avoid contributing to the Sozialversicherung, which is all about hard cuts. Either by being a Beamter or by working on the side. I see this less of a problem for self-employed people, as they aren't benefitting from anything but the most basic social security anyway or, as certified professionals, have organised a more efficient social security network for themselves. Freelancers are mainly being punished by bureaucracy as soon as they stop being a Kleinunternehmer and have to do more accounting. This leads to the first world problem Cingulate is facing. There's little incentive for a Putzperson to be sozialversicherungspflichtig beschäftigt, if this means you take a massive hit on your income without any benefit. You are already krankenversichert, your ALG 1 would be less than H-IV and you'll never earn enough Rentenpunkte to make it worth your effort. If you are doing this as a Zuverdienst, working on the side is the most logical option. The latter, the Zuverdienstoption, is mainly a thing for women who earn less than their spouse.
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Sep 26, 2020 19:00
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Ah, tax chat. 
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Sep 26, 2020 19:03
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Ya I never get Steuersenkungschat because in the end a leichte Steuersenkung comes out to like three euros for me. It's all Sozialabgaben.
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Sep 26, 2020 19:33
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aphid_licker posted:Ya I never get Steuersenkungschat because in the end a leichte Steuersenkung comes out to like three euros for me. It's all Sozialabgaben. Protip: You don't pay Sozialabgaben on the kind of income the people who want Steuersenkungen have.
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Sep 26, 2020 19:37
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DTurtle posted:Poor people can easily pay more than a 100% marginal „tax rate.“ As a high earner that is never, ever the case. Not a tax expert so this may be wrong.
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Sep 26, 2020 19:59
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Einbauschrank posted:This leads to the first world problem Cingulate is facing. There's little incentive for a Putzperson to be sozialversicherungspflichtig beschäftigt, if this means you take a massive hit on your income without any benefit. You are already krankenversichert, your ALG 1 would be less than H-IV and you'll never earn enough Rentenpunkte to make it worth your effort. If you are doing this as a Zuverdienst, working on the side is the most logical option.  Letztes Jahr gab es eine Informationen zur politischen Bildung über Hartz 4, da sind ein paar Meinungen dazu zusammengefasst.
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Sep 26, 2020 20:27
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Looks like der Söders Markus is planning to verbiet the display of the Reichskriegsflagge (and "possibly", schwarz-weiß-rot as well). Oh... Oh, wow. What a timely, timely decision
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Sep 26, 2020 20:45
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Ah yes, applying the same tactic as "build lots of tunnels under Munich, if people don't see the traffic, the traffic isn't as bad". Clever.
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Sep 26, 2020 20:56
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Hopper posted:Ah yes, applying the same tactic as "build lots of tunnels under Munich, if people don't see the traffic, the traffic isn't as bad". Clever. Wouldn't that be true? Ah, wait, you're talking about car tunnels for cars, not subway tunnels, aren't you? 
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Sep 26, 2020 21:01
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So while it's still relatively safe, do any Berlin folks itt maybe want to do a goonmeet? I know, I probably should have asked while it was still summer, but gently caress it
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Sep 26, 2020 21:01
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Venomous posted:So while it's still relatively safe, do any Berlin  
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Sep 26, 2020 21:24
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Looks like the weekends should be pretty safe
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Sep 26, 2020 21:31
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Ya gotta party when Christian isn’t looking, it’s the only way to be safe
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Sep 26, 2020 21:51
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aphid_licker posted:Looks like the weekends should be pretty safe 
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Sep 26, 2020 22:02
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Venomous posted:So while it's still relatively safe, do any Berlin folks itt maybe want to do a goonmeet? I know, I probably should have asked while it was still summer, but gently caress it will there be ket
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