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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015
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This dude is a covid truther rear end in a top hat so I hope he feels especially owned

e: I think the correct tone to read his tweet here is with dripping hate for the FEMALES who betrayed the cause

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

brugroffil posted:

This dude is a covid truther rear end in a top hat so I hope he feels especially owned

e: I think the correct tone to read his tweet here is with dripping hate for the FEMALES who betrayed the cause

Oh ABSOLUTELY

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I don't think anyone who isn't a crazy person would include the passage "& cited Jacobson (forced vaccination case)" in that tweet.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015
Probation
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https://twitter.com/clastowka/status/1311107315546849281

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
^ wrong thread?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Should I be scared if Biden only does slightly better than Trump? I'm hearing it's a massive mess.

L. Ron DeSantis
Nov 10, 2009

Grouchio posted:

Should I be scared if Biden only does slightly better than Trump? I'm hearing it's a massive mess.

I am, and I'm not one of the nojoes or the usual arzys. It's like a Jerry Springer show and who knows how it will shake out. Probably won't change much but.... could go either way given the stupidity of the US electorate. Joe comes off better in my estimation, he's not loving anything up other than the occasional stutter and Trump is not at all pivoting from his usual stoke-the-base poo poo.

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

Grouchio posted:

Should I be scared if Biden only does slightly better than Trump? I'm hearing it's a massive mess.

From the sheer variance of comments I've been seeing, people are going to take whatever conclusions they want.

I hope it doesn't actually move the needle.

SoggyBobcat
Oct 2, 2013

If "no one won" or "they both looked bad" is the common takeaway, then Biden actually won.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Neo_Crimson posted:

From the sheer variance of comments I've been seeing, people are going to take whatever conclusions they want.

I hope it doesn't actually move the needle.
I swear 75% of those goons in there were nojoes pissed off that Biden wasn't supermaning against Trump, instead of desperately fighting off his stuttering and interruptions like he was.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
Prediction: the pro-Trump polls (Trafalgar, Rasmussen, etc.) that have been showing strong Biden results are going to snap back to Trump +5 in battleground states over the next week, trying to jumpstart a huge Trump comeback narrative.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008
Post-debate prediction: This debate will actually help Biden, screw doing nothing I mean actually increasing his lead. IMO coverage of a debate matters more than the debate itself more often than not and this coverage is all about how Trump poo poo the bed.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Epinephrine posted:

Post-debate prediction: This debate will actually help Biden, screw doing nothing I mean actually increasing his lead. IMO coverage of a debate matters more than the debate itself more often than not and this coverage is all about how Trump poo poo the bed.
From what I am hearing Trump's primary topics were attacking Biden's dead veteran son and telling us all about how much he watches Fox News, which seems like it may have some limits in terms of what it can provide for support.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Analysis: "WILL YOU SHUT UP MAN" is the highlight of tonight's debate:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518861-biden-calls-trump-a-liar-and-a-clown-at-first-debate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/presidential-debate-trump-biden-chris-wallace-video-b706230.html

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/9/29/21494785/biden-trump-will-you-shut-up-man

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/biden-tells-trump-to-shut-up-during-presidential-debate-92820549619

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/29/biden-asks-trump-shut-up-president-keeps-interrupting-debate/3582754001/

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/09/30/would-you-shut-up-man-supreme-court-biden-dbx-2020-vpx.cnn

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Grouchio posted:

I swear 75% of those goons in there were nojoes pissed off that Biden wasn't supermaning against Trump, instead of desperately fighting off his stuttering and interruptions like he was.

Yeah during the debate Biden came across as a centrist dem with all the dumb poo poo that implies, while Trump came across as that guy you try really hard to avoid making eye contact while taking public transportation.

Which means I feel like most news agencies are going to report this as a "Biden Win" if they feel like they have to declare a winner.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Epinephrine posted:

Post-debate prediction: This debate will actually help Biden, screw doing nothing I mean actually increasing his lead. IMO coverage of a debate matters more than the debate itself more often than not and this coverage is all about how Trump poo poo the bed.

Same as I posted in the GE thread. Trump needed to win and instead he just reinforced why he needs to go among the non-deplorables.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Epinephrine posted:

Post-debate prediction: This debate will actually help Biden, screw doing nothing I mean actually increasing his lead. IMO coverage of a debate matters more than the debate itself more often than not and this coverage is all about how Trump poo poo the bed.

Yeah I would say the few undecideds left will hate this poo poo and slightly tip Biden. They're undecideds though, so I bet they mostly won't vote.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015
Probation
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Nice

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1311140521805524993

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
The play here from the Trump campaign is trying to make the environment so toxic for Biden that he says he doesn't want to debate a 2nd time and hope to hammer that for 6 weeks. Biden did fine, which is all he needs to do and because the Trump campaign tried to make Biden look so bad before the debate that they shot themselves in the foot.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Mooseontheloose posted:

The play here from the Trump campaign is trying to make the environment so toxic for Biden that he says he doesn't want to debate a 2nd time and hope to hammer that for 6 weeks. Biden did fine, which is all he needs to do and because the Trump campaign tried to make Biden look so bad before the debate that they shot themselves in the foot.

There's no way in hell Biden refuses to debate a second time; Trump backs down first in EVERY universe.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Who the hell are the 17% who were actually informed by that shitshow?

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
Nobody is gonna care about this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNewsPoll/status/1311138241765167105

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Mooseontheloose posted:

The play here from the Trump campaign is trying to make the environment so toxic for Biden that he says he doesn't want to debate a 2nd time and hope to hammer that for 6 weeks. Biden did fine, which is all he needs to do and because the Trump campaign tried to make Biden look so bad before the debate that they shot themselves in the foot.

Nah they'll just prep differently for the tactic, since Trump will just do literally the same thing. Especially if it turns into a bad news cycle for Trump.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

dr_rat posted:

Who the hell are the 17% who were actually informed by that shitshow?

Technically some of Bidens answers were informative if you're a low info voter moron.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

dr_rat posted:

Who the hell are the 17% who were actually informed by that shitshow?
I mean, you’d have learned just how broken our country is.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

There's no way in hell Biden refuses to debate a second time; Trump backs down first in EVERY universe.

I didn't say it was a good play by Trump!

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Pants Donkey posted:

I mean, you’d have learned just how broken our country is.
The insight is positive in the sense that the vast majority of people would've found the thought unfathomable in 2015. They're just sloooooooooow on the uptake.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/AlKapDC/status/1311142051585683457?s=20
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1311142235077967872?s=20
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1311139059671224320?s=20

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Pants Donkey posted:

I mean, you’d have learned just how broken our country is.

I mean, for people who haven't been spending all their time slowly losing their mind as they watch the insane fascist president tweet out the most bonkers poo poo imaginable... well, it sure informed you about who he is.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

There's no way in hell Biden refuses to debate a second time; Trump backs down first in EVERY universe.

Especially since Trump basically went in and alpha-striked with his ult right off the bat before waiting for his support. The fact is since Trump went in so hard that he basically has no surprises. He went down the checklist of everything both the chuddiest chuds and the terminally online twitter left have been hammering Biden and the Democrats on; he went after every possible wedge issue that's been presented to him over the past four years; and all he can do is just repeat himself and do the same thing at debate #2.

And then he turned around and reinforced that he wanted to send troops to break up the protests and leaned in on white supremacist rhetoric while also dissing Philie, he's for sure lost ground.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1311142955592421377?s=20

This is basically my impression - which maybe means I should be more suspicious of it, but hey.

If I have one plausible concern it's that I can kind of imagine a scenario where the ugliness of the whole affair drives Biden's favorables down a bit and turns things into a bit more of a 2016-esque mudfight, but that feels like a bit of a reach. We'll see.

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

That's not a win for ol' Trumper, sorry to say. I think in a day or two the consensus will be that this was a clear Biden win. Biden was not particular inspiring, but he was lucid and got like three decent lines in, but compared to Trump...

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Spiritus Nox posted:

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1311142955592421377?s=20

This is basically my impression - which maybe means I should be more suspicious of it, but hey.

If I have one plausible concern it's that I can kind of imagine a scenario where the ugliness of the whole affair drives Biden's favorables down a bit and turns things into a bit more of a 2016-esque mudfight, but that feels like a bit of a reach. We'll see.

Because he has nothing to run on. He has no accomplishments, no plans, and he has to make it about Biden.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Spiritus Nox posted:

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1311142955592421377?s=20

This is basically my impression - which maybe means I should be more suspicious of it, but hey.

If I have one plausible concern it's that I can kind of imagine a scenario where the ugliness of the whole affair drives Biden's favorables down a bit and turns things into a bit more of a 2016-esque mudfight, but that feels like a bit of a reach. We'll see.

People outside his base voted for Trump because they didn't think debate Trump would be the same as President Trump.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


In case there are any future debates, I'd like to remind everyone that a full Arcade run of Streets of Rage 4 also takes about 90 minutes to complete, which is what I spent my time doing.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Seven Hundred Bee posted:

That's not a win for ol' Trumper, sorry to say. I think in a day or two the consensus will be that this was a clear Biden win. Biden was not particular inspiring, but he was lucid and got like three decent lines in, but compared to Trump...

I think it's going to be more of a "Trump loss" than a Biden win. Trump was his own worst enemy, and no one will come out with any changed view on Biden.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

A take I agreed with on like David Weigel's feed or somewhere is that it's pretty clear what lines from this debate will be used to attack Trump, whereas it really isn't the same way for Biden. To the limited extent that these things matter, that probably works out in Biden's favor, being in a clear lead and all.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I feel a lot calmer coming out of the debate versus anticipating it all afternoon. I feel like I can handle whatever happens next.

Xombie posted:

People outside his base voted for Trump because they didn't think debate Trump would be the same as President Trump.
And because they really, really, really hated Hilary. I bet a bunch of them are now thinking 'poor Biden getting bullied by that rear end in a top hat'.

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Sep 30, 2020

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

exquisite tea posted:

In case there are any future debates, I'd like to remind everyone that a full Arcade run of Streets of Rage 4 also takes about 90 minutes to complete, which is what I spent my time doing.

I did some maps in Path of Exile, then I died a couple times and lost all the progress I made in Path of Exile and I feel like somehow this is akin to the american experience

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Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

the trending story tonight is Trump telling Nazis to "stand by"

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