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Remember when I said that the bottom was about to fall out of his campaign?
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No no Trump don't die too fast we gotta let this ride for awhile!!
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Oct 2, 2020 22:16
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:Remember when I said that the bottom was about to fall out of his campaign? I mean, the bottom may be falling out of his respiratory system too so
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Oct 2, 2020 22:16
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exquisite tea posted:No no Trump don't die too fast we gotta let this ride for awhile!! he has to survive to lose and stand trial in new York with his kids
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Oct 2, 2020 22:17
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goethe.cx posted:it'd be tough to prove that you contracted covid at that particular location as opposed to somewhere else, but i suppose it's not impossible yeah but that is a "well i guess we'll just have to go through a year of intensive discovery, now won't we?" factual question to be proved at trial instead of a thing where the lawyer gets the case bounced out of court with some well-written papers
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Oct 2, 2020 22:18
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:Remember when I said that the bottom was about to fall out of his campaign?
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Oct 2, 2020 22:18
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Maybe I'm just drawing a blank but I can't remember seeing SV News before today.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:IBD has always been Trump friendly. They had him winning the popular vote by 2 in their final 2016 poll lol. So of course they brag about getting the race “right.” is the ibd there investors business daily, of "if stephen hawking were british he'd have been left to die by the state" fame?
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Oct 2, 2020 22:20
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Holy poo poo https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1312139187999571970
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Oct 2, 2020 22:20
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From the ICU to the oval office is not a great campaign slogan, lol
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Oct 2, 2020 22:22
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Possibly something worse going on, but not yet anticipating "Trump will be held in state as a precautionary measure"
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Oct 2, 2020 22:23
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why is this in the polls thread? edit; lmao I have ignored USPOL for so long I didn't see it get shut down?
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Oct 2, 2020 22:24
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Asema posted:why is this in the polls thread? Summer USPOL is dead, Fall one is open.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:25
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Very mild. Just some tests. /s
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Oct 2, 2020 22:26
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goethe.cx posted:it'd be tough to prove that you contracted covid at that particular location as opposed to somewhere else, but i suppose it's not impossible Evilweasel would know more, but I thought that in some jurisdictions if you could demonstrate that if someone was e.g. 60% likely to be at fault, you could collect 60% of the damages. I wonder if that would apply here.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:29
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Telsa Cola posted:Summer USPOL is dead, Fall one is open. to be fair I didn't even see this thread renamed to "The News" so at this point where do I go to just talk about numbers
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Oct 2, 2020 22:31
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Asema posted:to be fair I didn't even see this thread renamed to "The News" so at this point where do I go to just talk about numbers The CSPAM economy thread, but thats about Number. But yeah this thread is mostly for what you want, you just will get a scattering of other stuff because breaking news like that definitely has an impact on polls.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:34
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I mean in terms of electoral change this is uh not a good development for Ol Trump. I think we’re going to see the bottom fall out on his campaign and the conversation will shift to the Senate
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Oct 2, 2020 22:35
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I mean his campaign might literally be over. What can he physically do if he’s laid up for the next 3-4 weeks?
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Oct 2, 2020 22:35
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This is still the numbers thread. I also think it's fair enough to post about the President being hospitalised 'for tests' - in the same way that Boris was hospitalised 'for tests' - in the context of how it'll affect the race.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:36
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:I mean in terms of electoral change this is uh not a good development for Ol Trump. I think we’re going to see the bottom fall out on his campaign and the conversation will shift to the Senate And that's going to be a hell of a conversation, given we're looking at how many Senators might be exposed to COVID-19, much less where they stand in polling.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:37
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if he's going to the hospital today there is not a world where he is back on the campaign trail in 2 weeks. and the election is 4 weeks today. him going to silent for the last month of the campaign along with daily stories about how he's sick and how badly they mangled coronavirus and his own response is good night on Trump.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:40
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It's been what - 17 hours since the release of the positive test news? And in that short time we've had: * positive test, high spirits, quarantine, no biggie! * Mild symptoms! No problem - fundraiser going virtual instead! * low-grade fever, fatigue! Fundraiser cancelled but MAGA! * whoopsie, just having a little hospital run here He's in much worse shape than they're letting on. I'd say he's doing a Herman Cain speedrun, but that would be an awful thing to say, so I'll do what Trump would have wanted instead and say that MANY PEOPLE are saying that.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:44
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Sarcastro posted:It's been what - 17 hours since the release of the positive test news? And in that short time we've had: I think it's fairly obvious that he's been positive for much longer than they've been letting on.
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Oct 2, 2020 22:45
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Chinese Gordon posted:I think it's fairly obvious that he's been positive for much longer than they've been letting on. Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if it's as far back as the debate, given what Chris Wallace just said about the family showing up too late to undergo the testing. (edit: just realized I'm in the wrong thread by accident - back to USPOL)
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Oct 2, 2020 22:55
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:if he's going to the hospital today there is not a world where he is back on the campaign trail in 2 weeks. and the election is 4 weeks today. him going to silent for the last month of the campaign along with daily stories about how he's sick and how badly they mangled coronavirus and his own response is good night on Trump. Their strategy was to take the focus off COVID and welp.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:04
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Chinese Gordon posted:I think it's fairly obvious that he's been positive for much longer than they've been letting on. Yeah I was confused at first about how fast things were moving given that I thought it took like a week for symptoms to really set in, but of course just because he tested positive last night doesn't mean he caught it close to then. I guess the VP debate takes on new significance if Pence is suddenly a bad cough away from the top chair - although that also makes it much harder for him to meaningfully win the debate IMO. If he's the VP then all he has to do is lie his rear end off convincingly enough to stop Harris from landing a killing blow, but if people are going to start thinking about him as The President then you would think he'd need to articulate a much clearer identity than he ever has.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:05
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Donald Trump dying will be awful for his poll numbers.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:17
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cant cook creole bream posted:Donald Trump dying will be awful for his poll numbers. the shy trump voters will love it though
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Oct 2, 2020 23:18
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Chinese Gordon posted:I think it's fairly obvious that he's been positive for much longer than they've been letting on. Given the sheer number of people around him who've got it this year, it's rather amazing that he only just caught it recently. Even if he didn't get it from the love of the troops via Hope.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:19
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Spiritus Nox posted:
In the event Trump bites it Pence's only shot is to cast himself as the true heir to Trump's legacy. Even if he did actually possess more charisma than a particularly homophobic plank of wood, any attempt to distance or differentiate himself will cause at least some of the base to stay home in disgust and without them Pence loses badly. I don't see him doing anything other than hugging Trump's bloated corpse as close as possible.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:19
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cant cook creole bream posted:Donald Trump dying will be awful for his poll numbers. I think the Senate race would benefit for R's, because they'd see Biden as illegitimate and rush to the polls IMO
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Oct 2, 2020 23:19
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VikingofRock posted:Evilweasel would know more, but I thought that in some jurisdictions if you could demonstrate that if someone was e.g. 60% likely to be at fault, you could collect 60% of the damages. I wonder if that would apply here. That's a different issue. If you get injured but it is partially due to your own negligence (but mostly due to mine), the old rule was you were hosed. The new rule is that damages get reduced by the amount that you were responsible for the injury (as long as it's less than 50%). This is "can you prove you got the virus from donald trump instead of from the subway to the debate" where the standard is "preponderance of the evidence" - i.e. more than 50% likely it's his fault - but it's hard to eliminate every other avenue you could have gotten it.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:32
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evilweasel posted:That's a different issue. If you get injured but it is partially due to your own negligence (but mostly due to mine), the old rule was you were hosed. The new rule is that damages get reduced by the amount that you were responsible for the injury (as long as it's less than 50%). you can also apportion liability between joint tortfeasors, but it's hard to see how that would work in this case. donald trump is 60% liable and the debates commission is 40% liable? i don't know how you'd show something like that
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Oct 2, 2020 23:35
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smoobles posted:I think the Senate race would benefit for R's, because they'd see Biden as illegitimate and rush to the polls IMO Removing him from the ticket would absolutely help out the Republicans because the desperate people chain calling Hell to make a Faustian deal will loose their motivation. Pence still probably doesn't win, but chances of Biden loving it up rise steeply.
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Oct 2, 2020 23:39
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smoobles posted:I think the Senate race would benefit for R's, because they'd see Biden as illegitimate and rush to the polls IMO
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Oct 2, 2020 23:45
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Sarcastro posted:It's been what - 17 hours since the release of the positive test news? And in that short time we've had: You missed, "Administered massive dose of experimental drug cocktail, pretty standard really"
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Oct 3, 2020 00:13
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From the beginning I thought, what but a pandemic could take some of the steam out of his rallies? I forgot he could get it himself. Almost assumed he had.
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Pick posted:From the beginning I thought, what but a pandemic could take some of the steam out of his rallies? I forgot he could get it himself. Almost assumed he had. The prevailing theory was that he was asymptomatic or somehow immune because we don't think bad things can happen to Donald Trump
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Murgos posted:You missed, "Administered massive dose of experimental drug cocktail, pretty standard really" It honestly wouldn't surprise me if all the medically dubious meds he keeps insisting that he's taking just happen to have a familiar Flintstone shape.
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