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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

when u take climate change seriously:

https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1312156261689913345

Continuing to prove that lab/lib councillors are utter wastes of skin.

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UnquietDream
Jul 20, 2008

How strange that nobody sees the wonder in one another

Bobby Deluxe posted:


I was supposed to be doing an MA remotely and would have had a little spare cash from the loan, but can't get a reply from anyone at the uni about remote study so am probably going to have to cancel that.


Full solidarity and support for the rest of your post, it sounds extremely not fun. Just on this point and obviously anecdotal and absolutely not guaranteed but in the last few days the Uni I work at has basically gone to all the lecturers and said "Yeah this combination remote and in person lecture thing you devised needs to now be 100% remote because of what's likely coming down the pipe."

I'm not in a lecturer position so this is, in itself, second hand info but given the news stories about other Uni's it wouldn't surprise me if this is happening across the sector. Which would bode well for your Uni saying actually yes.

UnquietDream fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Oct 3, 2020

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


OwlFancier posted:

when u take climate change seriously:

https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1312156261689913345

Continuing to prove that lab/lib councillors are utter wastes of skin.

This is an interesting one because if you take their justification at face value (lol) it's that it's coal used for steel production etc. and this gets into the not often discussed problem that industrial production of steel ( and notably concrete) is a massive carbon producer that just gets quietly ignored because it doesn't tie to something most people can relate to.

Like coal burns, generate power, waste it posting on the Internet is a clear line. Coal burns, steel gets made, widgets get produced, widgets used to produce more widgets which are shipped by amazon less so.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

This is an interesting one because if you take their justification at face value (lol) it's that it's coal used for steel production etc. and this gets into the not often discussed problem that industrial production of steel ( and notably concrete) is a massive carbon producer that just gets quietly ignored because it doesn't tie to something most people can relate to.

Like coal burns, generate power, waste it posting on the Internet is a clear line. Coal burns, steel gets made, widgets get produced, widgets used to produce more widgets which are shipped by amazon less so.

When I was looking up information surrounding it apparently Sweden has recently opened a new type of steel plant that uses hydrogen rather than coal:

http://www.theunfilteredlens.org/2020/08/31/sweden-opens-the-worlds-first-sustainable-steel-plant/

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/status/1312283329346052097?s=19
https://twitter.com/TorstenBell/status/1312285864031117312?s=19

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Powerful Two-Hander posted:

This is an interesting one because if you take their justification at face value (lol) it's that it's coal used for steel production etc. and this gets into the not often discussed problem that industrial production of steel ( and notably concrete) is a massive carbon producer that just gets quietly ignored because it doesn't tie to something most people can relate to.

Like coal burns, generate power, waste it posting on the Internet is a clear line. Coal burns, steel gets made, widgets get produced, widgets used to produce more widgets which are shipped by amazon less so.

Coke for Steel production is about 3% of global carbon emissions last time I checked, which doesn't sound like much but when you realise that's on the same scale as all air travel worldwide it's quiet a big deal.

It's also why planting forests/developing carbon offsetting technologies is so important - not all emissions can be stopped, so offsetting the stuff that produces GHG naturally like steel/cement/cows is as important as stopping emissions from fossil fuel use.

That swedish pilot plant is interesting, we'll have to see if if ends up viable or they find it isn't workable or cost efficent in practise.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


What loving weapon designed those graphs?

Yes let's make two near visually identical bar graphs and have the point of comparison be the loving scale.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/GaryOthic/status/1312159505812058112?s=19

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Guavanaut posted:

I hope you don't mean some kind of local lockdowns at entry points with some kind of Environmental Monitoring and Assessment activation from February with some hypothetical PPE advice and widely developed tracing system appearing in March, because that sounds wildly unreasonable.

You know they’d set noise limits to 60dB, why torture yourself with the pipe dream of competence?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

OwlFancier posted:

What loving weapon designed those graphs?

Yes let's make two near visually identical bar graphs and have the point of comparison be the loving scale.

You're not supposed to compare the graphs between each other, you're supposed to compare the red bar to the blue bar in each of them

Gruffalo Soldier
Feb 23, 2013

Fudge has landed. Very tasty. Haven't sold the wife on beans up the backside yet.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Nothingtoseehere posted:

That swedish pilot plant is interesting, we'll have to see if if ends up viable or they find it isn't workable or cost efficent in practise.
As it says in the article,

quote:

That is why Tata does not think that hydrogen will play a major role in the short term in IJmuiden. Hydrogen is only sustainable if it is produced with sustainable electricity. “In the case of Tata Steel, that would mean that we need the electricity from about all the offshore wind farms that are currently being built off the Dutch coast,” says Manger.

Without mass nuclear baseload, it's just another "this would be nice."

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I swear there used to be a thread for this, but I think I might need to apply. Not sure if it's appropriate.

Hi! I've been following your housing situation ITT and first let me say congrats on that imminent prospect of moving out! It's going to be a massive headache for a while but stay focused on that end goal, it'll be worth it finally.

Anyway, there isn't a dedicated thread or I guess this is the dedicated thread, as it's a ukmt-specific fund. :) If you need funds you should apply - worst that can happen is committee says no, or asks if you can get by on a lesser amount.

Details of how to apply are in the post you quoted - most people use the application form, but we've had both longer-form applications over email and brief Discord PMs. It's not meant to be difficult or formal - we're not here to make life harder for those already struggling. You don't even need to tell us specifics of your situation/what you need the money for if you don't want to.

Melissa McCarthyism
Jan 18, 2007

https://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/1311672756010917889

Read the comments for a megadose of existential dread

Biggus Dickus
May 18, 2005

Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

Gruffalo Soldier posted:

Haven't sold the wife on beans up the backside yet.

Oblig: "OK, but what about the fudge?"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yes, I want white history month.

One whole month of teaching about what white supremacy did over the past three centuries, instead of focusing on kings and dates and people with silly hats.

Teach it.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

Yes, I want white history month.

One whole month of teaching about what white supremacy did over the past three centuries, instead of focusing on kings and dates and people with silly hats.

Teach it.

It would boil so much piss I love it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Britain's green energy initiative is the boiling piss reactor, recycling gammons into clean energy.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Melissa McCarthyism posted:

https://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/1311672756010917889

Read the comments for a megadose of existential dread

The prim performative outrage is delicious

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Melissa McCarthyism posted:

https://twitter.com/sainsburys/status/1311672756010917889

Read the comments for a megadose of existential dread

I do like how Saintsburys, Yorkshire Tea and PG Tips have just owned this "We are doing this. You don't like it? gently caress off" attitude, it's dragging all the bigots out into the open to be rightly mocked.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Stanley Binns is exactly the name I would choose for a caricature of a demented old boomer fart who likes to rant endlessly about snowflakes these days but is still traumatised from when the bins weren't emptied for a bit during the 1970s

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Seems like someone else already took the name though? I can't tell if any of those accounts are real or people taking the piss.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Seems like someone else already took the name though? I can't tell if any of those accounts are real or people taking the piss.

I used to work with a guy who would moan about Black History Month every year saying that without "us" they would have no history.

He was your typical "pub man" that unironically blamed the lack of jobs on polish people whilst working with a guy from Poland and another from Lithuania.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
But would he know how to use twitter and all the icons and everything?

ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
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AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



NotJustANumber99 posted:

But would he know how to use twitter and all the icons and everything?

If Donald J Trump, owner of the smoothest brain the galaxy, can figure it out I’m sure anyone can.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

But would he know how to use twitter and all the icons and everything?

He has/had a Twitter account that was basically a shrine to the Orange order.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

CyberPingu posted:

I do like how Saintsburys, Yorkshire Tea and PG Tips have just owned this "We are doing this. You don't like it? gently caress off" attitude, it's dragging all the bigots out into the open to be rightly mocked.

You love to see it



CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
Yeah that is just peak :discourse:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Julio Cruz posted:

:nms:https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/list-of-prohibited-games?language=en_US:nms:

mostly it's generic hentai poo poo but there are a couple of things on there which I don't even want to think about their subject matter

One of those games is not like all the others.
I might be misremembering it, but I think BMX XXX was a properly released game in the early 2000's. It was a Tony Hawk like game only on bikes and you could have your characters be topless, I think.
It had Girls Gone Wild type clips you could unlock and years later it turned out one of the girls in then was underage and that the game was inadvertently child porn.

I imagine the other games don't have quite the same defence for their objectionable content.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
Lot of people should be put on lists for making some of those games.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

crispix posted:

Stanley Binns is exactly the name I would choose for a caricature of a demented old boomer fart who likes to rant endlessly about snowflakes these days but is still traumatised from when the bins weren't emptied for a bit during the 1970s

I don't think it's unreasonable to say that all Britain's problems result from things like Binns not being taken out 40 years ago.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Guavanaut posted:


One whole month of teaching about what white supremacy did over the past three centuries, instead of focusing on kings and dates and people with silly hats.

Teach it.

I thought the one thing schools could be guaranteed to cover was WWII?

Silly hat supremacy and money supremacy really are the main drivers of UK history. Unlike WWII Germany and the US, at least until recently white supremacy has mostly only been secondary. There is a very limited time window when you could really say Irish people were treated meaningfully better than Indians.

The exceptions are things like the creation of Rhodesia. In a handful of the hundreds of wars Britain started, white supremacism really was the core factor driving the decisions made. And, like Kipling with his ‘white man’s burden’, Rhodes, with his scholarships, was explicitly trying to forge a British-American alliance based on a shared concept of the white race.

Rhodes had a Hitler-level faith in the qualities of the white race. This led him, like Hitler, to expect good outcomes for decisions that would be stupid if those beliefs were wrong. Berlin in ruins and the failure of the British empire in Africa were both predictable, and both came as surprises to those responsible for them. This is different from say slavery, where the intended results (getting rich from plantation profits) was actually attained.

Same for Farage and Brexit of course, but I don’t suppose schools are going to be allowed to point that out for the next few decades.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


radmonger posted:

I thought the one thing schools could be guaranteed to cover was WWII?

Silly hat supremacy and money supremacy really are the main drivers of UK history. Unlike WWII Germany and the US, at least until recently white supremacy has mostly only been secondary. There is a very limited time window when you could really say Irish people were treated meaningfully better than Indians.

The exceptions are things like the creation of Rhodesia. In a handful of the hundreds of wars Britain started, white supremacism really was the core factor driving the decisions made. And, like Kipling with his ‘white man’s burden’, Rhodes, with his scholarships, was explicitly trying to forge a British-American alliance based on a shared concept of the white race.

Rhodes had a Hitler-level faith in the qualities of the white race. This led him, like Hitler, to expect good outcomes for decisions that would be stupid if those beliefs were wrong. Berlin in ruins and the failure of the British empire in Africa were both predictable, and both came as surprises to those responsible for them. This is different from say slavery, where the intended results (getting rich from plantation profits) was actually attained.

Same for Farage and Brexit of course, but I don’t suppose schools are going to be allowed to point that out for the next few decades.

White supremacy was the public ideology of the empire and explicitly what justified it

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Don't forget that Rhodes' race fetishism was specifically for the 'Anglo-Saxon race', as part of a system where Irish were questionably 'white'

and 'Scotch' Highlanders ranked lower than high caste Indian princes


White supremacy is not just 'darker = worse', it's a whole system of stupid bullshit to justify why failsons in Hertfordshire should be superior to everyone else.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

^^^ Mongolians did 9/11 was not the hot take I was expecting this morning.

UnquietDream posted:

Just on this point and obviously anecdotal and absolutely not guaranteed but in the last few days the Uni I work at has basically gone to all the lecturers and said "Yeah this combination remote and in person lecture thing you devised needs to now be 100% remote because of what's likely coming down the pipe."
I'm wondering if the reason the uni isn't replying is that they either haven't decided on a policy, or are worried I'm a journo fishing for details.

The good thing is I haven't registered yet, so the loan hasn't come through - if that lands in my account and then I can't do the course, it kind of screws me for any future attempts because you only get one year's worth of funding (split over 2 years if part time).


Maugrim posted:

Anyway, there isn't a dedicated thread or I guess this is the dedicated thread, as it's a ukmt-specific fund. :) If you need funds you should apply - worst that can happen is committee says no, or asks if you can get by on a lesser amount.
Thanks. It's a weird situation because there's obviously a huge amount of money changing hands, but it's almost happening behind our backs. In terms of day-to-day money we have access to though, it

I might get in contact with a list of expenses we have, and then whichever one you are able to help with (assuming you have room in the budget and there's nobody else more urgent) would be appreciated. Either way, once we're settled in the new place we intend to start supporting the fund anyway.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Oct 3, 2020

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


big scary monsters posted:

Just nipping down to the chippie for a jelly supper, anyone want anything?
Couple of days back but I went for Vietnamese food last night & literally had a jelly supper

Jellyfish tastes p much exactly like you'd imagine, not great but the texture works well in the right salad

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Guavanaut posted:

Don't forget that Rhodes' race fetishism was specifically for the 'Anglo-Saxon race', as part of a system where Irish were questionably 'white'

and 'Scotch' Highlanders ranked lower than high caste Indian princes


White supremacy is not just 'darker = worse', it's a whole system of stupid bullshit to justify why failsons in Hertfordshire should be superior to everyone else.

I don't like using white supremacy for the brand of racism that ran the british empire for this reason - white supremacy better describes the American outlook where the lowest white ethnic minority was still far above black people in delivered respect, while the racism that ran the british empire was happy to discriminate against you for speaking the wrong language with the wrong accent and following the wrong religion regardless of your skin colour.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Nothingtoseehere posted:

I don't like using white supremacy for the brand of racism that ran the british empire for this reason - white supremacy better describes the American outlook where the lowest white ethnic minority was still far above black people in delivered respect, while the racism that ran the british empire was happy to discriminate against you for speaking the wrong language with the wrong accent and following the wrong religion regardless of your skin colour.

From reading novels written around late 19C - early 20C, I get the impression it wasn't so much White Supremacy as Being Born British and Of The Right Class of Society that was the British version (which naturally meant 'white' in 99.9% of cases though exceptions were always made for the children of Rajahs and African Heads of State who fetched up at Eton or wherever).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah but much as they might pontificate about the virtues of the right kind of foreigner they're still not actually gonna treat them like equals. You don't buy it from modern day racists so I don't see why you'd think better of some old dead racists.

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
People worried that Spitting Image will not show sensitivity to minority groups are mistaken. They have removed some carrot leaves from Ed Sheeran's head so as not to offend ginger-haired people. Racism is over now.

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