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There's also the Jesta pilot from Narrative and I think some video game protagonist that were pilots at the Axis Shock. It's like Star Wars poo poo where everyone at the Catina was either a super spy, war criminal, or both.
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Oct 1, 2020 22:48
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Stairmaster posted:bring back yazan At some point in the distant future they will animate that Return of Johnny Ridden manga. Yazan is in that working for the Federation.
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Oct 1, 2020 23:08
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Wasn't one of the Axis Shock Jegans "canonically" piloted by the Blue Destiny protagonist?
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Ethiser posted:At some point in the distant future they will animate that Return of Johnny Ridden manga. Yazan is in that working for the Federation. Yep. He's mellowed a bit, too. He's still Yazan, but he's gone through some serious crap and understands that killing people for money is a privilege, not a right. (I love the scene where he's talking with the captain of the ship he's on. Yazan says he used to be with some idealists, obviously trying to imply he was with the AEUG, and the Captain goes "Yeah, everyone knows you're Yazan Gable. It's not a big deal. Just be up front about it.")
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Oct 2, 2020 00:16
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I guess I should read that Johnny Ridden manga.
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It's kinda funny that both Cyber Newtypes and cloning Newtypes are both not only very effective technologies but also clearly rather cheap and yet the Federation* never bothers with either branch *not counting the Titans
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The Alaya-Vijnana system is definitely approaching the functional combat purpose of Newtype powers from the opposite direction. The thing with psycommu tech in the UC is that it's a perversion of humanity's developing, supernatural capacity for empathy, making machines enough like humans that Newtypes can form an empathic connection with them (and use them to kill people for the military-industrial complex), with the most extreme examples being hive-minded swarms of attack drones piloted by people driven totally insane by experiencing all the pain and suffering of every combatant on the battlefield. The Alaya-Vijnana System, by contrast, makes people like machines, turning pilots themselves into disposable weapon components, with the most developed integration creating bizarre, monstrous cortical homunculi piloted by hollowed-out living corpses. It is a mark of society's denial of empathy for its pilots, turning them into hideous beasts to be used and then slain.
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drrockso20 posted:It's kinda funny that both Cyber Newtypes and cloning Newtypes are both not only very effective technologies but also clearly rather cheap and yet the Federation* never bothers with either branch Because both of those things are pretty horrendously evil, and the Federation generally - with some exceptions - isn't horrendously evil, just apathetic and corrupt. Making a cyber newtype involves cutting someone open and loving with their brain in a way that involves massive debilitating side effects and psychosis. The clones aren't much better off, given that they still seem to require enhancements; we have Puru 2 and Marida as our examples, and both of them are classed as cyber newtypes(with all of the accompanying side effects) rather than newtypes despite being cloned from a newtype. Kanos fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Oct 2, 2020 |
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Darth Walrus posted:The Alaya-Vijnana system is definitely approaching the functional combat purpose of Newtype powers from the opposite direction. The thing with psycommu tech in the UC is that it's a perversion of humanity's developing, supernatural capacity for empathy, making machines enough like humans that Newtypes can form an empathic connection with them (and use them to kill people for the military-industrial complex), with the most extreme examples being hive-minded swarms of attack drones piloted by people driven totally insane by experiencing all the pain and suffering of every combatant on the battlefield. The Alaya-Vijnana System, by contrast, makes people like machines, turning pilots themselves into disposable weapon components, with the most developed integration creating bizarre, monstrous cortical homunculi piloted by hollowed-out living corpses. It is a mark of society's denial of empathy for its pilots, turning them into hideous beasts to be used and then slain. Ironically, the most extreme example in season 2 is the product of empathy. Ein's brain in a jar is kept in service because it's all Gaelio can do for his friend, with their history together heavily influencing how Gaelio interacts with Isurugi and Julieta. It's almost the reverse of a traditional Newtype arc, where dehumanizing technology forces people to understand the humanity of their opponents.
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Oct 2, 2020 05:16
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Might as well ask you guys - has anyone here played G Generation Cross Rays? I've seen it described as Disgaea but with Gundams in terms of being a "grind for its own sake" kind of game and that sounds extremely up my alley.
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Oct 2, 2020 06:42
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Sounds about right to me. I had fun with it for a couple of weeks and then never felt like booting it up again.
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Azran posted:Might as well ask you guys - has anyone here played G Generation Cross Rays? I've seen it described as Disgaea but with Gundams in terms of being a "grind for its own sake" kind of game and that sounds extremely up my alley. Super Robot Wars thread in Games has you covered. There is some discussion of it there.
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Azran posted:Might as well ask you guys - has anyone here played G Generation Cross Rays? I've seen it described as Disgaea but with Gundams in terms of being a "grind for its own sake" kind of game and that sounds extremely up my alley. I've put in some hours, yeah. It's fun in a grindy way. The plot is just the plots from all the shows and tie in manga presented in text boxes, so the main fun is in grinding up units and sending out pilots in unusual Mobile Suits, like giving Atra the Regnant Mobile Armor.
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chiasaur11 posted:I've put in some hours, yeah. Of note, it's a great way to get the plots of series that don't have good, easily accessible translations, like the 00F side stories or IBO Gekko. The game itself is definitely a "numbers get big" simulator, but if you like mashing robot action figures with your pilots of choice together it's really good at that.
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Oct 2, 2020 13:37
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It also exists for PC, which is basically my criteria for playing a game these days.
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Oct 2, 2020 13:46
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Azran posted:Might as well ask you guys - has anyone here played G Generation Cross Rays? I've seen it described as Disgaea but with Gundams in terms of being a "grind for its own sake" kind of game and that sounds extremely up my alley. Yep. The game is fun for doing stupid, 'mistakes were made' scenarios, like from my own game having Flay in the Kimaris Vidar carting around Eins's brain or sticking S2 Nena in the Turn X. On the other end of the spectrum I stuck Gym in the Noble Gundam for a while when leveling him, didn't take to the field though. If you want the cliffs notes version of Wing, SeeD, 00, IBO and some of their spinoffs its a good game. If you want strategic depth, probably not. Alos, learn about the in mission quest screen. Pausing the game there will be a button prompt to bring up all the quests you can complete on a given stage, which is very useful.
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Ashsaber posted:Yep. The game is fun for doing stupid, 'mistakes were made' scenarios, like from my own game having Flay in the Kimaris Vidar carting around Eins's brain or sticking S2 Nena in the Turn X. On the other end of the spectrum I stuck Gym in the Noble Gundam for a while when leveling him, didn't take to the field though. If you've ever wanted to war crime better than the war criminals in the various AUs, GGCR offers tons of opportunity to do it. Give Stella the Alaya-Vijnana and stick her in the Epyon with an AV interface.
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That said do keep in mind Cross Rays in specific has the gimmick of not having any UC series. if you want a broader series list (though without anything past very early AGE) you'd be better off emulating Overworld for the PSP.
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Oct 2, 2020 14:22
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Endorph posted:That said do keep in mind Cross Rays in specific has the gimmick of not having any UC series. if you want a broader series list (though without anything past very early AGE) you'd be better off emulating Overworld for the PSP. Oh I don't mind it. In terms of aesthetics, a lot of the Gundam SEED mobile suits are basically identical.  That said, it's a really weird omission - is there any particular reason for it?
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Oct 2, 2020 16:53
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The previous game Genesis was only UC, from OYW all the way to Unicorn in the base game, so Cross Rays was only AU stuff.
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cross rays is also lacking x, g, age, g-reco, and turn-a (though those two are uc in a sense). they're all in the dlc but the dlc only adds a select few suits/pilots and is just menu stat checks, not actual levels. so if you only care about the master gundam and loran you're fine, but if you wanted to use the airmaster and woolf, you're out of luck. and ofc either way you've gotta pay for it.
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random q, but is there a place that has the return of johnny ridden in better quality than mangadex? the second scan group's tls are decent but the art still has a jpg artifacty vibe which is a shame when the faces are so good
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Oct 2, 2020 22:25
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Gym yells "there is no such thing as too far in G-Gen!" and "Ah, the God Gundam is truly the older brother of the Shining!" and then cackles about how fun the God Finger is.
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EthanSteele posted:Gym yells "there is no such thing as too far in G-Gen!" and "Ah, the God Gundam is truly the older brother of the Shining!" and then cackles about how fun the God Finger is. Sadly I don't think the love love attack is in overworld.
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Endorph posted:In overworld almost everyone in the game has a unique line for using shining/god finger. And Patrick has a line about wanting to do the love love attack with the colonel. Just about everyone still has unique lines in G-Generation, including some referencing G Gundam's power of love finale. (Meanwhile, Mikazuki Augus continues to be the least hot blooded Gundam Pilot.)
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Endorph posted:Sadly I don't think the love love attack is in overworld. It is but you need Rain in the Rising and Domon in the God to do it, its a special cutscene attack that requires you to use each of the Gundam's ultimate attacks to do it.
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chiasaur11 posted:Just about everyone still has unique lines in G-Generation, including some referencing G Gundam's power of love finale. I do love that one of the most terrifying moments in IBO is when Mika slightly raises his voice during a fight.
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Oct 3, 2020 02:55
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chiasaur11 posted:Just about everyone still has unique lines in G-Generation, including some referencing G Gundam's power of love finale. "I guess it's kinda like having a tail?" as he rips dudes in half.
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chiasaur11 posted:Just about everyone still has unique lines in G-Generation, including some referencing G Gundam's power of love finale. Azee has a quote related to the Build Knuckle, since she's got the same VA as Reiji. Sadly she didn't seem that into the Star Build Strike, but I may be misremembering.
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Oct 3, 2020 05:44
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Darth Walrus posted:I do love that one of the most terrifying moments in IBO is when Mika slightly raises his voice during a fight. I adore the scene when he rescues atra and finds her injured. He leans up to go murder every other human in a three block radius and she has to stop him with a hand on his arm.
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Oct 3, 2020 15:59
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Is there a way to watch Island Wars in English aside from buying the disc? Also same question for Stargazer.
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Oct 3, 2020 21:15
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Island Wars sometimes shows up on the official YouTube channel rotation, some times. Not sure about Stargazer. EDIT: Double not-sure about dub options.
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Lock Knight posted:Island Wars sometimes shows up on the official YouTube channel rotation, some times. I don’t think Stargazer ever got an official release in English.
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Oct 3, 2020 21:46
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Caros posted:I adore the scene when he rescues atra and finds her injured. He leans up to go murder every other human in a three block radius and she has to stop him with a hand on his arm. Mika's quick cooldown on murder makes him even more distinctive. Hair trigger tempers are common enough in anime. Eren Yeager or Kamille Bidan can get to "I WILL KILL EVERYONE HERE" quickly enough given a reason (and Atra being tortured is the sort of scene to provoke even relatively level-headed types). But with Mikazuki, he can go back to ground state in seconds. It makes every scene he's in more disconcerting, since there's very little difference between Mika's default and Mika murdering people in cold blood. There's a scene with Hush, Mika, and Atra early in season 2 that covers it. Hush looks like he might hit Atra. Instantly, Mika grabs Hush's arm and almost snaps it. Then Atra says that Hush wasn't threatening her. (And that she doesn't get bullied.) Mika lets go, then apologizes. (Technically apologizes, at least). Mika's great.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjXS_lbU2TU y'all iron blooded orphans is so good
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Darth Walrus posted:I do love that one of the most terrifying moments in IBO is when Mika slightly raises his voice during a fight. "That was close, you jerk!" -proceeds to tear Hashmal a new everything- Or in the final fight where he lets the shackles off Barbatos one last time. You see him grinning and licking his lips and suddenly you realize that's not really Mika any more.
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Ramadu posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjXS_lbU2TU Yep. Wasn't that much news last night, though. VAs talked about their time with the show and made a cake, there were some nice performances of the music, but new details were thin on the ground. Still, we got the first gameplay video for the phone game (turn based, with a campaign for the anime in addition to the whole Venus tourism plot), and they announced that there's going to be a metal build Bael. Not much, but it's something.
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Endorph posted:Though i think some spinoff manga says that guy was ex-titans so gently caress that guy actually If the Titans dude in the Dakar episode was any indication, there were definitely some members who weren’t “in” on the fact that the Titans were evil. Hell, Bunch 30 doesn’t even seem like public information for real (and Yazan and Gadi sandbagged the other gassing attempts). Bylarant dude stayed with the federation on Earth I think when the split happened
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