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There is something rich about a primarily American forum attacking a foreign game developer for not profit sharing enough.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:02
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if your kind of dumb I guess.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:03
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CharlestheHammer posted:what it’s not a goon invention them being really creepy to her did happen. I've been watching a lot of Downton Abbey and a recurring theme is the servants getting super upset and emotional over the "honor of the house" being slighted. Kind of the same thing.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:03
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more than one thing can be bad at a time
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Oct 5, 2020 22:04
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pentyne posted:I've been watching a lot of Downton Abbey and a recurring theme is the servants getting super upset and emotional over the "honor of the house" being slighted. I mean I expect it in games but doing it in CSPAM is an interesting choice
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Oct 5, 2020 22:06
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How about actually defending your point instead of starting some weird meta-argument
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Oct 5, 2020 22:07
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Fame Douglas posted:It's goon invention, don't believe everything you read on the forums. I never thought I'd see someone white knight loving David Cage but lol ok.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:08
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Shame Boy posted:I never thought I'd see someone white knight loving David Cage but lol ok. So it's not true. Thanks for confirming.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:08
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what would I need to defend you just said fake news. how about instead you make an argument instead of getting defensive for your video games
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Oct 5, 2020 22:09
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Yeah, let me prove the non-existence of something. Great point you made there, genius.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:10
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Fame Douglas posted:Yeah, let me prove the non-existence of something. Great point you made there, genius. https://bleedingcool.com/games/quantic-dream-david-cage-ticking-time-bomb/ quote:And if you look beyond that one instance, you'll find many other questionable moments in both Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls. You can dive into the article for tons of context and links to other articles savaging Cage and Quantic Dreams. Not really sure how "proving non-existence" was the thing you took away from being criticized for your blatant cheerleading of a supremely disturbing and creepy man. pentyne has issued a correction as of 22:14 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 22:12
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Chomp8645 posted:There is something rich about a primarily American forum attacking a foreign game developer for not profit sharing enough. I'm just inherently suspicious of any company announcing from the rooftops that they're doing it, especially to cover other bad press about them going back on a different promise to their employees. It's certainly better than any American company would prolly ever do, sure 
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Oct 5, 2020 22:12
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pentyne posted:https://bleedingcool.com/games/quantic-dream-david-cage-ticking-time-bomb/ I'm not going to read some weird game crit article that has nothing to do with the question asked.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:14
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Fame Douglas posted:So it's not true. Thanks for confirming. Which way too long lovingly-rendered pissing scene was your favorite way too long lovingly-rendered pissing scene?
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Oct 5, 2020 22:14
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Fame Douglas posted:I'm not going to read some weird game crit article that has nothing to do with the question asked. lol going full Sargon of Akkad out here
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Oct 5, 2020 22:16
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Fame Douglas posted:I'm not going to read some weird game crit article that has nothing to do with the question asked. So you literally refuse to accept major criticism of the person you are so ardently defending? Make it clear you think "good faith" is a joke so you can save everyone else a lot of time from ever engaging with you.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:17
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I'm not defending any person? Do you have reading comprehension issues?
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Oct 5, 2020 22:18
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pentyne posted:So you literally refuse to accept major criticism of the person you are so ardently defending? I think they're saying that it's not addressing the particular claim of "David Cage and friends were creepy perverts to Ellen Page specifically" therefore it doesn't matter.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:19
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Shame Boy posted:I think they're saying that it's not addressing the particular claim of "David Cage and friends were creepy perverts to Ellen Page specifically" therefore it doesn't matter. Seems you have reading comprehension issues as well.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:20
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Shame Boy posted:I think they're saying that it's not addressing the particular claim of "David Cage and friends were creepy perverts to Ellen Page specifically" therefore it doesn't matter. he really is Sargon
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Oct 5, 2020 22:21
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https://twitter.com/eIeanorlamb/status/1312611229555453952
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Oct 5, 2020 22:22
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That's just a terrible edit of a picture that is way more funny on its own.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:23
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Fame Douglas posted:That's just a terrible edit of a picture that is way more funny on its own. someone is feeling pissy today. what's got you down?
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Oct 5, 2020 22:27
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Serf posted:someone is feeling pissy today. what's got you down? Trump being discharged from the hospital (even though I realize there's still hope)
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Oct 5, 2020 22:28
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Fame Douglas posted:Trump being discharged from the hospital (even though I realize there's still hope) lmao okay bud
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Oct 5, 2020 22:29
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Fame Douglas posted:Trump being discharged from the hospital (even though I realize there's still hope) Aw man. I mean I knew it was gonna happen because the more evil you are the harder you are to kill (fuckin' look at Kissinger) but still, aw man.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:29
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Shame Boy posted:Which way too long lovingly-rendered pissing scene was your favorite way too long lovingly-rendered pissing scene? im gonna be honest with ya shame boy, i think its way worse that he made a nude model of ellen page against her consent then that hes into pee. in fact i think its so much worse that i dont really give a drat hes into pee at all, really
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Oct 5, 2020 22:29
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You know how most places have paid sick days to prevent people from going to the office sick because they can't afford to take the day off? Well my company joins those ranks in 2021! We're getting a whole two sick days*! *At half rate** **it's unknown if we still get attendance points. They're a little vague on that in the newsletter.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:30
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mandatory lesbian posted:im gonna be honest with ya shame boy, i think its way worse that he made a nude model of ellen page against her consent then that hes into pee. in fact i think its so much worse that i dont really give a drat hes into pee at all, really Sure, but I wanted to make an easy joke since that argument clearly wasn't going anywhere
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Oct 5, 2020 22:31
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mandatory lesbian posted:im gonna be honest with ya shame boy, i think its way worse that he made a nude model of ellen page against her consent then that hes into pee. in fact i think its so much worse that i dont really give a drat hes into pee at all, really That was just a stock model they bought from a third-party company, they didn't model nude Elen Page "against her consent" This is another misunderstanding of game development goons perpetuate.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:32
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Main Paineframe posted:uhhh I don't see anything that says that the 10% profit-sharing is a special reward for crunch time yeah now that you point it out... on one hand seems like a good thing to do regularly, on the other hand I wonder how they are going to deal with crunch CharlestheHammer posted:it would seem that if you gave a friend that works there that would have come up lmao he's not a friend, he's an ex coworker that everybody in that studio despised and yet he got hired by CDPR, around 2018 what is going on itt everybody's so cranky
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Oct 5, 2020 22:32
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mandatory lesbian posted:im gonna be honest with ya shame boy, i think its way worse that he made a nude model of ellen page against her consent then that hes into pee. in fact i think its so much worse that i dont really give a drat hes into pee at all, really I'm reminded of how some model/actress did a photoshoot, and was convinced to do some nudes with very specific contractual limitations on what the nudes could be used for (no distribution/publishing). When the photographer turned around and published the nudes anyways she tried to sue and her lawyers said her only practical options were to just try and get what profits she could from the illegal sale. Fame Douglas posted:That was just a stock model they bought from a third-party company, they didn't model nude Elen Page "against her consent" For a game using extensive mo-cap and trying to realistically capture Ellen Page's looks the best they could, they then decided "hey for this shower scene where it 100% looks like Ellen Page but you can't see her nude we need to make sure the body is accurately modeled as a nude body" It's enough of a mess legally that she might've been able to sue, and it was absolutely gross as gently caress they even created that possibility in the first place. Eventually when deepfakes start leading to lawsuits they're going to point back to Beyond Two Souls as the precursor to the issue and what damage it can cause. pentyne has issued a correction as of 22:36 on Oct 5, 2020 |
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Oct 5, 2020 22:32
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pentyne posted:I'm reminded of how some model/actress did a photoshoot, and was convinced to do some nudes with very specific contractual limitations on what the nudes could be used for (no distribution/publishing). When the photographer turned around and published the nudes anyways she tried to sue and her lawyers said her only practical options were to just try and get what profits she could from the illegal sale. You're reminded of this, but you would be wrong. The Ellen Page model was simply a stock model they used.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:33
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Fame Douglas posted:That was just a stock model they bought from a third-party company, they didn't model nude Elen Page "against her consent" No they just photoshopped her face onto a naked body, nothing wrong with that, who cares.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:34
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I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that if you hijack the camera in a 3D game you can see the parts of the generic model in the shower scene you weren't meant to see. I thought games were just like movies.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:34
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Shame Boy posted:Sure, but I wanted to make an easy joke since that argument clearly wasn't going anywhere sure thats fair
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Oct 5, 2020 22:35
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necroid posted:what is going on itt everybody's so cranky I don't know if you're aware of this but people are being wrong About VIDEOGAMES
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Oct 5, 2020 22:35
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I'm unfamiliar with this Ellen Page thing, but from the basic description it sounds similar to Hot Coffee? As in, it requires modding or some other fuckery to even see the nudity in question? And even then it's not her actual nudity? Who cares. I mean it's a lovely thing, but not the kind worth real outrage or hand wringing.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:40
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Shame Boy posted:No they just photoshopped her face onto a naked body, nothing wrong with that, who cares. Its 100% picking up extremely minor details and arguing it wasn't technically her is just explicitly endorsing lovely treatment of women in the gaming industry. The entire game premise and marketing was built up around the main character being Ellen Page just in a video game, mo cap for realism, true character expressions and some poo poo. A available nude scene with that same character regardless of whether or not that actually filmed naked Ellen Page with mo cap to simulate a shower or used actual nude photos of her to model it isn't the point. It was presented as 100% her for the game so by default everyone would assume it was a nude scene with her. The specific mesh applied to the body, again not necessarily in the slightest for anything in the game, doesn't change the fact it's supposed to be Ellen Page.
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Oct 5, 2020 22:41
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I mean the issue wasn’t whether you saw it. So I’m not sure how it was like hot coffee at all?
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