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I'm genuinely kind of nervous the big wet dipshit accidentally offs himself way before election day. Just before or the day of is fine but this early on just leaves a lot of uncertainty and I hate that poo poo. His ego really does dictate every single thing in his life even to his own physical detriment.
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Trump is physically robust (e: for a fat 74 year old who doesn't exercise) and I imagine they would strap him to the finest machines money can buy so I doubt he would croak too fast. It is possible they could scrape up some kind of last ditch strategy if he just pooped himself to death tomorrow, but I think even American voters aren't going to forget this poo poo show THAT fast.
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Nessus posted:Trump is physically robust (e: for a fat 74 year old who doesn't exercise) and I imagine they would strap him to the finest machines money can buy so I doubt he would croak too fast. It is possible they could scrape up some kind of last ditch strategy if he just pooped himself to death tomorrow, but I think even American voters aren't going to forget this poo poo show THAT fast. My faith in the american voter hasn't been amazing since 2016. Sorry if I'm coming across as doomposting but that year just really made it stark how loving stupid we are as a nation..
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https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1313332662745133056 https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1313361475076055040 You know, maybe that 40% mark isn't quite as rock-solid as it looked.
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Nessus posted:https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1313332662745133056 That's Herbert Hoover type levels of support (39%, 1932). It could be worse - could be Barry Goldwater levels (1964, 38%), or George McGovern (37%, 1972), Alf Langton (1936, 36%) annnnd James M. Cox (1920, 34%)
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Oct 6, 2020 10:14
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I think Trump would prefer Goldwater, all things considered.
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Get ready to poo poo yourselves. This is a post-diagnosis poll. https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1313421043541970945?s=20
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Oct 6, 2020 11:36
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So it looks like the sympathy bump went to Biden then. Hoo boy, that's some Number. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/727604522156228608
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Oct 6, 2020 11:51
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Oct 6, 2020 11:55
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I used to think, even after the first debate, that Biden/Harris couldn’t afford to pull out of future debates because it would make them look weak at the margins. However, with every Republican in Trump’s circle aggressively shedding coronavirus, and the massive swing in polling we seem to be seeing toward the Biden camp, I am beginning to believe that it is both politically and physiologically prudent for Biden/Harris to pull out of future debates citing health precautions and the refusal of the Trump/Pence team to take it seriously. I suspect that the public will side with them and that this decision will produce absolutely bonkers, and damaging, responses from the Trump/Pence team as they try to even more furiously own the libs for doing the sane thing, which will tighten the circle.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:19
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LOL, wrap it up Bidenailures!
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Petey posted:I used to think, even after the first debate, that Biden/Harris couldn’t afford to pull out of future debates because it would make them look weak at the margins. However, with every Republican in Trump’s circle aggressively shedding coronavirus, and the massive swing in polling we seem to be seeing toward the Biden camp, I am beginning to believe that it is both politically and physiologically prudent for Biden/Harris to pull out of future debates citing health precautions and the refusal of the Trump/Pence team to take it seriously. Personally I think the best strategy is for Biden to say he'll do the debates as long as appropriate precautions are taken. Either Trump has to pull out because he's literally comatose, he insists on doing it despite being extremely unwell and just looks pathetic, or he's somehow recovered but fucks up the debate anyway due to being Donald J Trump. Also, Town Hall format suits Biden better than the previous clusterfuck format, especially if Trump has to fume and wheeze from behind a plastic barrier. Chinese Gordon fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 12:27
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AhhYes posted:https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1313306751115165696?s=19 They over survey old people right? If he really craters with 65+ the poll would shift wildly (if their thumb is not on the scale.)
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Chinese Gordon posted:Personally I think the best strategy is for Biden to say he'll do the debates as long as appropriate precautions are taken. Either Trump has to pull out because he's literally comatose, he insists in doing it despite being extremely unwell and just looks pathetic, or he's somehow recovered but fucks up the debate anyway due to being Donald J Trump. Also, Town Hall format suits Biden better than the previous clusterfuck format, especially if Trump has to fume and wheeze from behind a plastic barrier.
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Nessus posted:Frankly they ought to cancel the town hall format entirely if they don't do it virtually (and I'm sure Biden would be OK with that). Biden can even easily and accurately spin it: he can take his own risks, but it's not fair to all those people at the event or their families, or their workplaces, or their workplaces families, or any stray Senators any of them happen to hang out with. That's actually a good point. Much easier to spin it when there's an audience also potentially at risk.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:41
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Oct 6, 2020 13:10
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How is Biden comparing to Hillary at this point in 2016? People seem to keep saying “they said the same thing about Hillary!!” over and over but was the polling similar?
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That poll from Michigan had similar numbers didn't it? https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1313317236967342080 https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1313452316452937728 Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:They over survey old people right? If he really craters with 65+ the poll would shift wildly (if their thumb is not on the scale.) At one point this was indeed happening - for a short period Rasmussen was one of Trump’s worst pollers during the height of the first wave of Covid - but then his numbers started to mysteriously improve for Rasmussen and only for Rasmussen. Because they charge for cross tabs we’ll never know why (we know why).
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Voting starts in Columbus https://twitter.com/ohiocapitalblog/status/1313439959676850181
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Oct 6, 2020 13:28
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This was the only thing trump had an advantage on: https://twitter.com/andrewbatesnc/status/1313453763550736384?s=21
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Verisimilidude posted:How is Biden comparing to Hillary at this point in 2016? People seem to keep saying “they said the same thing about Hillary!!” over and over but was the polling similar? https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/1312779248294391808?s=20
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Oct 6, 2020 13:29
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Verisimilidude posted:How is Biden comparing to Hillary at this point in 2016? People seem to keep saying “they said the same thing about Hillary!!” over and over but was the polling similar? In 2016 it was generally assumed that the popular vote and the EC would generally agree on who won, until it didn't. This time around, everyone's polling States very aggressively, and have had the 2018 elections to refine their voter models that were faulty last time. People are also assuming Trump will perform much better than his polls this time around, rather than much worse, anticipating a "shy Trumper" effect that even people who want it can't verify.
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This country man. So like what is GOTV going to look like this year? I think taht's the big unanswered question as far as I'm concerned. And normally, especially with these sorts of numbers, I'd say all this excess cash should be going to some sort of GOTV network, or something like that. But I guess it just has to go to digital phone banks and stuff like that. Without question, this is where I'm the least knowledgeable. I keep coming back to Florida. Like on one hand I keep seeing a gap between RV and LV, often to the order of 4 pts. And I have just seen Republicans outkick their coverage over the past 4 years. And the numbers with Hispanics etc. But I think out of all of the states where the 'mailing in votes is rife with fraud' will have an effect is FL. And then these numbers are just nutso. 4 weeks! Such exquisite agony!
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I don't think Joe will win Texas but if his spending helps any down ticket races it is money well spent.
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Nessus posted:Frankly they ought to cancel the town hall format entirely if they don't do it virtually (and I'm sure Biden would be OK with that). Biden can even easily and accurately spin it: he can take his own risks, but it's not fair to all those people at the event or their families, or their workplaces, or their workplaces families, or any stray Senators any of them happen to hang out with. The thing I wonder is, assuming hte debate goes forward virtually or something what the dynamic would be if Trump is coughing horribly between every sentance. Biden could plausibly say 'yeah this is tragic we're not doing this for his sake'.
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bollig posted:This country man. 8 year garbage red county FL resident here: there seems to actually be a GOTV here this year. I not only got a text message when my ballot should have been mailed, they followed up on the day it should have arrived in my mailbox. When I said I’d already returned it, they said that they didn’t see it and started describing the process of following up with the county until I said I’d only just dropped it in the mail. I haven’t seen anything like this in any previous election here. Not 2018, not 2016, not 2014, not 2012. It looks like the plan is to reach out to every registered dem until ballots are marked as received and counted.
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He predicted Clinton would lose Colorado, Nevada and New Hampshire. https://twitter.com/KMCRadio/status/1052704477671804930
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Shammypants posted:I'm telling you right now, my crystal ball prediction is that the next president will replace both of them. So you're convinced Trump's gonna win huh?
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ComWalk posted:8 year garbage red county FL resident here: there seems to actually be a GOTV here this year. I not only got a text message when my ballot should have been mailed, they followed up on the day it should have arrived in my mailbox. When I said I’d already returned it, they said that they didn’t see it and started describing the process of following up with the county until I said I’d only just dropped it in the mail. Noted. And that's awesome, but frustrating in retrospect.
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Ague Proof posted:He predicted Clinton would lose Colorado, Nevada and New Hampshire. Also, https://twitter.com/alistaircassidy/status/1313439761445588996?s=21
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