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I'm almost finished with Dune and I'm starting to not like this book. The way Paul gets feted as the saviour and the way it's told seems really... childish, for lack of a better world. It feels like the book transitions from interesting world building to a YA novel, in a kind of embarassing way. Also Herbert has a serious boner for SS death squads, with all the fedaykin and sardaukar poo poo. Almost feel like I'm not going to finish it, unless a sandworm crushes him while he's taking a poop.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:39
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busalover posted:I'm almost finished with Dune and I'm starting to not like this book. The way Paul gets feted as the saviour and the way it's told seems really... childish, for lack of a better world. It feels like the book transitions from interesting world building to a YA novel, in a kind of embarassing way. Also Herbert has a serious boner for SS death squads, with all the fedaykin and sardaukar poo poo. Almost feel like I'm not going to finish it, unless a sandworm crushes him while he's taking a poop. I think you'll like the book, keep reading. Ingmar terdman posted:Mask discipline has consequences. We are all siona now Also, this is... too perfect. Dune was way ahead of its time!
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Oct 6, 2020 12:49
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The delay is such a bummer. Any other time it would have been an “awww man” but no big deal, but it was one of the last things coming out anytime soon I was looking forwards to. Time to order another copy of the book and give it a reread. I really need to never lend that book to anyone, I have never gotten a copy back in 15 years and 8 copies.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:55
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Spoiling the end for first timers, but a big part of the ending is Paul realising that he basically walked into a role created for him as part of a distinctly cynical engineered religion designed for Bene Gesserit convenience, and his ability to command the Fremen is mostly because of that and that he generally tells them to do things that they already want to do- and so he can't stop the genocidal crusade once the Fremen unite and take over Arrakis. Dead or alive, he's ultimately not much more than a banner to rally around. A Hero would be the worst thing to happen for everyone on Arrakis, including said hero.
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Oct 6, 2020 13:07
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And then once he’s in he’s in too deep
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Oct 6, 2020 13:10
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Groovelord Neato posted:Jesus how could you go to the effort of making a Dune podcast and accept that drivel. Twice. I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime.
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Oct 6, 2020 14:07
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. lmfao
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Oct 6, 2020 14:11
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. holy poo poo lol
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Oct 6, 2020 14:15
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. Jfc
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Oct 6, 2020 14:18
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what the christ
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Oct 6, 2020 14:28
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. There's not a gently caress YOU big enough for those people
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Oct 6, 2020 14:49
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. Ughhhhhhhhhh
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Oct 6, 2020 16:31
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Yadoppsi posted:he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever Grumman. I always took this as a kind of gag, that ten thousand years from now when America and Earth itself are totally forgotten there will still be a planet named by our military industrial complex
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Oct 6, 2020 16:58
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. Holy poo poo, this is unreal.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:10
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Yadoppsi posted:I know right. I knew to avoid Dune Cast right away because they were promoting an interview with Kevin J Anderson on Twitter, but imagine my disgust listening to the other discussing the drunken Idaho scene from the first book and exclaiming that when he was ranting he first bloodied his sword on Grundar or wherever that it must be a mistake and Frank didn't double check his notes because [prequel book] says he first killed on Gedi Prime. What the gently caress? Do these people understand how linear time works?
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Oct 6, 2020 17:36
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I think it's more that consumerism begets canon and canon begets completionist nerds (see the star wars threads 'dennys placemat' in joke)
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Oct 6, 2020 17:39
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Ingmar terdman posted:I think it's more that consumerism begets canon and canon begets completionist nerds (see the star wars threads 'dennys placemat' in joke) Do not besmirch the good name of my boy Therm Scissorpunch
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Oct 6, 2020 17:47
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With the movie delayed, hopefully they can go ahead and start streaming Dune: The Sisterhood. 
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Oct 6, 2020 17:49
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Thread caught my eye the other day, watched the Lynch Dune last night, now I'm ordering the book, which I last read when I was like 14. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:27
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when i was a kid i liked chapterhouse dune the best because of the sex scenes
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Oct 6, 2020 18:30
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euphronius posted:And then once he’s in he’s in too deep Dune Messiah despite feeling out of place tackles this one way more directly and with almost no subtly, to the point where Paul talks about how every religion the Fremen are wiping out was legitimate and valid and his Fremen general/advisor starts laughing and saying how much their Muad'dib loves his jokes while Paul just sighs and has to deal with it
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Oct 6, 2020 19:04
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Mozi posted:when i was a kid i liked chapterhouse dune the best because of the sex scenes Tugs collar of school uniform nervously
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Oct 6, 2020 19:41
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Serak posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3846107&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=551#post508623016 onward
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Mozi posted:when i was a kid i liked chapterhouse dune the best because of the sex scenes At 34 listening to that whole book at work was a hilarious and almost embarrasing experience. Techniques to make you cum so hard you become an slave, it feels out of Futurama.Something Zapp brannigan would brag about. It gets redeemed by “I am moving at dangerous speed” tho.And going back to Geidi Premi and Barony is pretty nice.The way Harkonnens organised their cities to be maximum assholes to their serfs is interesting as hell, Shane it’s only a few concepts here and there. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Oct 7, 2020 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:I think it's more that consumerism begets canon and canon begets completionist nerds (see the star wars threads 'dennys placemat' in joke) That's probably it. They were going through all the books in in-universe chronological order not publishing order.
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Surprised that weird Dune visual novel posted way back wasn't set in the Honored Matres days. Would've made more sense canonically.
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busalover posted:I'm almost finished with Dune and I'm starting to not like this book. The way Paul gets feted as the saviour and the way it's told seems really... childish, for lack of a better world. It feels like the book transitions from interesting world building to a YA novel, in a kind of embarassing way. Also Herbert has a serious boner for SS death squads, with all the fedaykin and sardaukar poo poo. Almost feel like I'm not going to finish it, unless a sandworm crushes him while he's taking a poop. im no fan of dune, or zensunni terrorism, but
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When Paul sees that the Jihad is "inevitable" does that mean there's an alternate universe where he dies during the timeskip, and with his loss their guerrilla war against Rabban lasts a few more years, but then the Fremen finally win under the leadership of Abomination Alia? Would Alia's Other Memory tulpa of Harkonnen help her avenge the Atreides and kill his real-life counterpart? If he did, he could make Empress Alia take Feyd as a consort so he could finally fulfill his dream of loving his hot nephew.
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Joke Miriam posted:When Paul sees that the Jihad is "inevitable" does that mean there's an alternate universe where he dies during the timeskip, and with his loss their guerrilla war against Rabban lasts a few more years, but then the Fremen finally win under the leadership of Abomination Alia? Plans within plans...
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u brexit ukip it posted:im no fan of dune, or zensunni terrorism, but issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding Muad'Dib's Fedaykin suicide commandos. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them".
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Oct 7, 2020 23:42
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Ok, finished the first book. Pretty much a cliffhanger. So I gotta keep reading. Eh, ok.
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Oct 7, 2020 23:58
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busalover posted:Ok, finished the first book. Pretty much a cliffhanger. So I gotta keep reading. Eh, ok. you have to read the first two at least. the second book is paul's hangover after his jihad party.
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Oct 8, 2020 00:01
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So is spice supposed to be a metaphor for something?
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Capntastic posted:So is spice supposed to be a metaphor for something? Do you mayhaps host one of the top two Dune podcasts?
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Capntastic posted:So is spice supposed to be a metaphor for something? Cinnamon, duh 
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Capntastic posted:So is spice supposed to be a metaphor for something? It's a metaphor for post-nut clarity.
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