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An impact finisher is just any finisher where you slam them onto the mat. (Or onto your knee or whatever.) Drivers, bombs, neckbreakers, flowsions, whatever.
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the Michinoku Driver II-B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdboKiTfKjk
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Oct 10, 2020 20:57
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MassRafTer posted:Maybe as a tribute to Daniels the man who invented it and had it cruelly stolen away by Reno. And everyone sells it so damned well. I liked Brodie's crumple a lot I should probably have contributed. I'm blinded by growing up in the Attitude Era when everyone had one finisher for years and it usually won, so I love the Stunner, the Rock's Bottom, and the Jackhammer, but I think my most recent one is the elevated Death Rider. For ones I hadn't seen at all until recently. Distinct, swift, final I just can't think of any stand out innovations in the last decade
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Oct 10, 2020 21:45
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:And everyone sells it so damned well. I liked Brodie's crumple a lot We all love The Rock's Bottom but we have banned horny posting on these forums 
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Oct 10, 2020 21:52
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Diabolik900 posted:I have trouble considering the lionsault a finishing move when he would rarely even successfully land it, let alone finish a match with it. Razor Ramon going for a Razor's Edge to the outside. That spot always bugged me. He was hinting at a move that he was realistically never going to pull off safely as setup for his opponent to backdrop him out of the ring.
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Oct 10, 2020 21:58
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I don't know if he'll ever use it again, but Jeff Cobb broke out a running backdrop in his match against Ishii and it was the coolest looking move ever.
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Oct 10, 2020 22:17
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Was always partial to the backdrop driver for an impact finisher.
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Oct 10, 2020 22:51
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Diabolik900 posted:I have trouble considering the lionsault a finishing move when he would rarely even successfully land it, let alone finish a match with it. Taichi's thrust kick after he does the tearaway pants spot.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:01
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Destino too.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:02
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the gotch style piledriver has been the most protected move in new japan as i don't believe anyone has ever kicked out of it during his entire 2011-present new japan run although it did happen during the two years he spent in noah in the middle of that period. on the flip side he almost never manages to sucessfully hit it on main event level talent anymore.
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Oct 10, 2020 23:12
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Ron Simmons' WCW Spinebuster: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23qaiq Starts at 26:00 minutes in, watch the entire segment to see a bunch of them.
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Oct 11, 2020 00:38
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The two impact finishers I never see but when I do I adore are God's Last Gift/Small Package Driver and Amaze Impact/Reverse Chokeslam. Both look like absolute death when done well. God's Last Gift really stands out that no one picked it up after Tyler Black became Seth and it's just so god drat great.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:20
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KUSHIDA did it a few times and named it the Back to the Future and Seth got salty (because obviously) https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/seth-rollins-and-kushida-come-agreement-over-disputed-move
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Oct 11, 2020 01:36
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is The Mandible Claw one of the most protected submission finishers ever? I don't remember many people ever getting out of it with Mankind, and recently with Brit/Fiend using it. just a random thing, but I like the one cool thing most Randy matches have is the RKO counter spot (before he hits it later and wins anyways) - The 3 that stick out in my mind are Seth getting rko'd mid stomp 10ft in the air, Ali popping back up with his hands, and recently with Keith Lee just powering through it and holding Randy up - any other finishers that always have creative counters? You'd think you'd scout you're opponent and figure out a counter but no one seems to bother in wrestling except versus Randall  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWaavRHjrE e: I also like that no one ever bothered to just roll over while The Rock was running the ropes for the people's elbow (though maybe that did happen I just don't remember during that era) Hirez fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 01:39
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Cerebral Bore posted:Well in that case I've always had a soft spot for the Steiner Screwdriver. Just looks like absolute murder. Did he ever injure anyone with it? It looks really dangerous.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:50
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Deathlove posted:KUSHIDA did it a few times and named it the Back to the Future and Seth got salty (because obviously) Funnily enough he actually chilled out when KUSHIDA said its 2017 and given he's barely used it since at least he recognised that was dumb. It did remind me of one of the dumbest online feuds in WWE women ever, when two women argued over using a bridging inverted crossface with the smarter of the two pointing out it was invented by The Great Muta and was literally called a Muta Lock. Move ownership is so weird. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk on how mid 2000s Jimmy Rave was the most underrated wrestler in the indies with his move steal gimmick and Jimmy Rave v Bryan Danielson at Unscripted II is an underrated classic.
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Oct 11, 2020 01:55
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Kennel posted:Did he ever injure anyone with it? It looks really dangerous. i'm not sure, but i think he shortened hiroshi hase's lifespan with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AilmQvekT-0&t=74s
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Oct 11, 2020 02:04
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I'm sure he injured a ton of people with it unofficially, especially those jobbers they brought in to take them for like Saturday Superstars. Steiners were known to work stiff and with that move the only thing from crippling their spine is Scott's massive thighs. I'm sure he caused a lot of people to take a ton of painkillers and man it up is what I'm probably getting at
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Oct 11, 2020 02:08
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Kennel posted:Did he ever injure anyone with it? It looks really dangerous. In theory it shouldn't be any more dangerous than a normal piledriver but then again Scott Steiner is an absolute maniac so probably?
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Oct 11, 2020 07:17
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Cerebral Bore posted:In theory it shouldn't be any more dangerous than a normal piledriver but then again Scott Steiner is an absolute maniac so probably? Frankly I'd be more worried about the Frankensteiner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl4zPsa638A
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Oct 11, 2020 07:50
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Frankly I'd be more worried about the Frankensteiner. Well, the Frankensteiner is a move where all the control is done by the person taking it, so I don't think we can fault Scott for that one.
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Oct 11, 2020 07:55
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Diabolik900 posted:Here’s a question: are there any other signature moves that get blocked/countered as often as the lionsault?
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Oct 11, 2020 08:03
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Hirez posted:just a random thing, but I like the one cool thing most Randy matches have is the RKO counter spot (before he hits it later and wins anyways) - The 3 that stick out in my mind are Seth getting rko'd mid stomp 10ft in the air, Ali popping back up with his hands, and recently with Keith Lee just powering through it and holding Randy up - any other finishers that always have creative counters? i think the rainmaker fits here. For the last few years everybody and their mother got to counter a rainmaker, or at least escape the wrist control, in a big match with Okada. Honestly too many to name, though I still love Kenny just dodging it by falling to his knees in exhaustion.
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Oct 11, 2020 08:07
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what wrestlers have gotten a Gold Watch title run and were able to turn it into an actually pretty good reign? i know some will disagree but the first name that comes to mind for me is Mark Henry in 2011
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Oct 11, 2020 14:45
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JOHN CENA posted:what wrestlers have gotten a Gold Watch title run and were able to turn it into an actually pretty good reign? i know some will disagree but the first name that comes to mind for me is Mark Henry in 2011 Christian's 2nd one and the feud with Orton in general was good. Chris Daniels ROH title reign, too. It wasn't incredible, but it was solid, and the title win itself was probably the last great ROH moment. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 15:50
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:And everyone sells it so damned well. I liked Brodie's crumple a lot Elevated DDTs are always excellent because it could actually kill someone, and you could conceivably pull it off.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:04
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Halloween Jack posted:The Last Rites looks really good when the guy sells it like they got their head jammed into the mat with their neck at a bad angle, instead of just a flat front bump. more people should do vertebreakers and real crucifix powerbombs where guys bump on their shoulders, not their backs
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Oct 11, 2020 21:08
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Crucifix Powerbomb is a really dangerous move, if you gently caress it up, you're throwing the guy backwards onto his neck.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:50
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JOHN CENA posted:what wrestlers have gotten a Gold Watch title run and were able to turn it into an actually pretty good reign? i know some will disagree but the first name that comes to mind for me is Mark Henry in 2011
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Oct 11, 2020 22:03
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The Berzerker posted:Was always partial to the backdrop driver for an impact finisher. He said recent. This video is so old it's in black and white! Lid posted:The two impact finishers I never see but when I do I adore are God's Last Gift/Small Package Driver and Amaze Impact/Reverse Chokeslam. Both look like absolute death when done well. God's Last Gift really stands out that no one picked it up after Tyler Black became Seth and it's just so god drat great. He used it once in WWE a few years ago, against Finn in that Universal title match where Finn died.
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Oct 11, 2020 23:18
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Thauros posted:the gotch style piledriver has been the most protected move in new japan as i don't believe anyone has ever kicked out of it during his entire 2011-present new japan run although it did happen during the two years he spent in noah in the middle of that period. on the flip side he almost never manages to sucessfully hit it on main event level talent anymore. Ishii basically never hits the Vertical Drop Brainbuster on someone if it's not the finish either.
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Oct 12, 2020 00:30
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Diabolik900 posted:Here’s a question: are there any other signature moves that get blocked/countered as often as the lionsault? Whatever Ric Flair is going for when he gets slammed off the top.
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Oct 12, 2020 04:50
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Crucifix Powerbomb is a really dangerous move, if you gently caress it up, you're throwing the guy backwards onto his neck. That's why it owns That's why I'm a fan of the burning hammer too
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Oct 12, 2020 06:09
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Red posted:Whatever Ric Flair is going for when he gets slammed off the top. IIRC, he finally hit whatever it was always meant to be on a random throw-away PPV or a random Raw in the mid-2000s, and it turned out to be a double axe-handle from the top turnbuckle.
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Oct 12, 2020 10:03
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Flair won the world championship off Harley Race at the first Starrcade with a crossbody off the top rope. He also won his first world championship after Dusty failed to suplex him after he scaled the top rope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7ZuQHnx1Q
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Oct 12, 2020 10:31
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Vagabundo posted:IIRC, he finally hit whatever it was always meant to be on a random throw-away PPV or a random Raw in the mid-2000s, and it turned out to be a double axe-handle from the top turnbuckle. If I'm not mistaken, the first time he finally hit the double axehandle was a random Nitro or Thunder in '99-'00 and the commentary didn't even mention it even though the crowd lost their poo poo.
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Oct 12, 2020 13:19
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SLUM KING posted:Flair won the world championship off Harley Race at the first Starrcade with a crossbody off the top rope. When he won the IC title off of I want to say Carlito, I believe he used a cross body
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Oct 12, 2020 14:11
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I like to believe Flair's character constantly goes "This move won the biggest match of my life 40 years ago, it's sure to work this time too"
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Oct 12, 2020 14:17
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DeathChicken posted:I like to believe Flair's character constantly goes "This move won the biggest match of my life 40 years ago, it's sure to work this time too" "I beat Harley Race with this move, and you sir are no Harley Race..."
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Oct 12, 2020 14:43
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If Flair was a face, he usually hit his top rope move; if he was a heel, he almost always got caught.
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Oct 12, 2020 14:55
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