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Protocol7 posted:It’s a good move but they still swapped to USB-C cable when most people probably have USB-A chargers if anything. This is correct And this is correct on what Apple is doing FCKGW posted:WE'RE DRAGGING YOU ALL INTO THE USB-C FUTURE KICKING AND SCREAMING Protocol7 posted:I personally don’t give a poo poo cause I’m on the wireless charging train and I’m totally buying the MagSafe charger, but it’s still fun to point out how silly it is to give people only a USB-C cable without USB-C wall adapters being very widespread. Exactly right here. I would be fine with Apple just including an A to C charger.
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So is this 5G chip gonna be a massive battery drain then next year they come out with a better one that supports 20 more bands and way lower power? Assuming my block in the suburbs gets 5G, of course.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So is this 5G chip gonna be a massive battery drain then next year they come out with a better one that supports 20 more bands and way lower power? Assuming my block in the suburbs gets 5G, of course. Yes. It’s not even known if the 5G modem is built in or separate from the SOC. If it’s separate you may as well turn 5G off if you want any semblance of good battery life lol.
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ratbert90 posted:Yes. It’s not even known if the 5G modem is built in or separate from the SOC. If it’s separate you may as well turn 5G off if you want any semblance of good battery life lol. As always with Apple, if they didn’t mention it, assume the worst.
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Oct 14, 2020 05:18
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So psyched about the Mini but am concerned that the Pro's Night Mode Portrait is gonna be another gamechanger like Night Mode itself and it'll again feel really sucky to miss out on it.
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Oct 14, 2020 05:22
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~Coxy posted:Real post: has anyone seen a short USB-C to lightning cable? 1-2' would be good. There aren't many short ones. I use this one at my charging station on my shelf. Works ok. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WVXGFCJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e3NHFb72TJBJX
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ratbert90 posted:Yes. It’s not even known if the 5G modem is built in or separate from the SOC. If it’s separate you may as well turn 5G off if you want any semblance of good battery life lol. The 5G modem is almost certainly a thin Qualcomm modem/baseband processor that Apple is buying from Qualcomm. That component has always been separate from the Apple SoC app processor, from 3G through LTE phones. (Apple hasn’t used an integrated modem/app processor system since their first internally designed processor.)
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WhyteRyce posted:There aren't many short ones. I use this one at my charging station on my shelf. Works ok. Thanks for that recommendation, it looks perfect. Unfortunately it is somehow $30 in my country.
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prom candy posted:I'm upgrading from an iPhone 8... mini or pro? I'd really like the fancy cameras and probably bigger battery and screen, but I also tried switching to an 8 plus last time around and had to return it because it was too unwieldy. (ignore that I got the SE after the 6 and have been waiting for something like the 12 mini ever since  )Vegetable posted:So psyched about the Mini but am concerned that the Pro's Night Mode Portrait is gonna be another gamechanger like Night Mode itself and it'll again feel really sucky to miss out on it.  I'm wondering how long until someone makes a MagSafe battery case with USB-C.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So is this 5G chip gonna be a massive battery drain then next year they come out with a better one that supports 20 more bands and way lower power? Assuming my block in the suburbs gets 5G, of course. They took time in the presentation to highlight how smart the phone was at turning off 5G automatically when you don’t need it. So yeah, it’s gonna be a drain.
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Oct 14, 2020 08:49
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Every iPhone I’ve owned has been charged through a 30 pin to lightning adapter hooked up to an ancient JBL speaker dock. Although I’ve used the fancy usb-c power brick from my 11 pro to charge my Switch and iPad a bunch.
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Guys I understand cost saving (for planet, producer, and consumer) in budget phones, where you can bank on people having some sort of charger. When you’re doing it with a £999 (jfc lol) phone it just looks like a trillion dollar company trying to nickel and dime you. When it does it with a £40 charger it heavily featured and touted, and it doesn’t come with a power brick, thats just dumb. Unless you’re some weird fanboy or buying a phone every year instead of the 3-5 years most normal people follow, its just a way to increase margins with the cover of being green.
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xzzy posted:Do you get paid based on how many times you use the phrase "power adapter"? 
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Oct 14, 2020 11:01
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I don't think we have any recent laptops in our work fleet without at least a single usb-c for the last four years. This drought of possible usb-c ports sounds like the usual ai goon "Why do the car maker not make any new cars like i want? Cause you want to buy used in five to ten years and never buy new", which is exactly the mac scenario here as there are no usb-a only macs that are not in a vintage status. If you have your house full of usb-a ports (and somehow you have burned all your old lightning cables in a pyre) you can buy a three pack of usb-a to lighting cable from anker/aukey for a song.
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Oct 14, 2020 11:41
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The mini looks great. I’m a bit wary about battery though. I don’t play games on my XS or fast charge and I’m already down to 83% capacity and struggle to get through some days (though that doesn’t matter when working from home). Very unlikely I upgrade but I hope the mini pro is a thing next year.
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Oct 14, 2020 11:44
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I've had a usbc to lightning cable in my desk for 2 years now and it's been there for 2 years precisely because no one else has usbc on their workstation so they can't steal it. Now my whole system is hosed THANKS APPLE FOR OFFENDING ME.
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Oct 14, 2020 11:51
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Does the cable come with a c to a adapter ? The rumors said it would have an adapter , but I haven’t seen anything on it (if no adapter then that’s a bummer).
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Duckman2008 posted:Does the cable come with a c to a adapter ? The rumors said it would have an adapter , but I haven’t seen anything on it (if no adapter then that’s a bummer). No adapter. Anker is my go-to brand for that kind of thing. Also, the lightning cables you likely already have will still work.
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SlowBloke posted:I don't think we have any recent laptops in our work fleet without at least a single usb-c for the last four years. This drought of possible usb-c ports sounds like the usual ai goon "Why do the car maker not make any new cars like i want? Cause you want to buy used in five to ten years and never buy new", which is exactly the mac scenario here as there are no usb-a only macs that are not in a vintage status. If you have your house full of usb-a ports (and somehow you have burned all your old lightning cables in a pyre) you can buy a three pack of usb-a to lighting cable from anker/aukey for a song. Yeah a corporate environment is totally comparable here. 
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enojy posted:I get the same result when I sign in to mine. I keep meaning to call, but I still haven't decided if I'm even going to upgrade this year. I went through the eligibility page on the store app and it said I had one payments worth to pay off and I can preorder on Friday, I think that's how it is handled.
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Changing the subject to Siri and how much she still sucks. All I wanted to know was what time it was in PST. “What time is it in PST?” Here’s the time in your time zone. “What time is it in PT?” Here’s the time for Portugal. “What time is it in pacific time?” Here’s the time in Pacific, Missouri. “What time is it in pacific standard time?” Here’s the time in Pacific, Missouri. 🤦♂️
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SlowBloke posted:which is exactly the mac scenario here as there are no usb-a only macs that are not in a vintage status.
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ijyt posted:Guys I understand cost saving (for planet, producer, and consumer) in budget phones, where you can bank on people having some sort of charger. Rumor is a portless iPhone in the very near future, so it’s likely a step in that direction to help offset the 5g and oled screens. Nothing on Earth matters to Apple more than margins. There were hints of an iOS version of macOS internet recovery coming to the phone to take the place restoring up updating. No clue how they’re going to handle syncing and pc data transfer, but it would be a very Apple move to give those the axe in the name of “courage” to embrace the wireless future they’re promoting.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Rumor is a portless iPhone in the very near future, so it’s likely a step in that direction to help offset the 5g and oled screens. Nothing on Earth matters to Apple more than margins. I was really hoping they'd announce that mag safe could do data transfer in addition to charging. It's the only way they could truly get rid of the port. Maybe they're working on that and that's the plan...
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Josh Lyman posted:The portless iPhone doesn’t make sense to me because how are you going transfer data (specifically large amounts of photos and video) to your PC? Wifi 6 is stupid fast
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Through the magic of iCloud, of course. Pay up, consumer.
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Endless Mike posted:Huh? There's lots. The first USB-C MacBook came out in 2015, and they were still selling the non-Retina MacBook Air until last year. The non-USB-C 13" and 15" Pros were sold until 2017 and 2018, respectively. Hell, the non-Retina 13" Pro was sold into 2016. I did forget about the non-retina macbook air but the rest of that list are far from modern(i don't think i've ever seen any usb-a/non retina macbook in a apple store in 2017 let alone 2018), I don't think apple expects their customer base to hang on their laptops for more than the duration of apple care + so if we consider a three year window(if we exclude the old air that break that convention) every apple computer bought within a 3 year interval from the iphone 12 release date should have a usb-c port to charge it without any external item SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Ouhei posted:I was really hoping they'd announce that mag safe could do data transfer in addition to charging. It's the only way they could truly get rid of the port. Maybe they're working on that and that's the plan... It'd be so awesome if I could use a MagSafe car mount that connected to my CarPlay. My car doesn't have wireless, so it needs to plug in. If we ever get to a place where I'm driving significantly again (~300 miles a month, down from 1,500) I may spring for one of those wireless adapters that are made. I'm really excited for MagSafe. I wonder if the iPhone 12 back will work with any magnet. I have magnetic car mounts that I have to use a plate in my case for it to stick to currently, curious if it'll just grab on to that. The magnetic area may be too large for the pad though as I am nearly certain it's a ring of magnets and not a flat circle.
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GoatSeeGuy posted:Rumor is a portless iPhone in the very near future, so it’s likely a step in that direction to help offset the 5g and oled screens. Nothing on Earth matters to Apple more than margins. this has been the "rumor" for like 3-4 years now and it doesn't seem any more likely than it did when it first came around. what do you do if your phone gets so hosed up that it gets stuck in recovery mode? throw it in the trash?
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SlowBloke posted:I did forget about the non-retina macbook air but the rest of that list are far from modern(i don't think i've ever seen any usb-a/non retina macbook in a apple store in 2017 let alone 2018), I don't think apple expects their customer base to hang on their laptops for more than the duration of apple care + so if we consider a three year window(if we exclude the old air that break that convention) every apple computer bought within a 3 year interval from the iphone 12 release date should have a usb-c port to charge it without any external item "Vintage status" has a specific definition as it regards Apple products. Basically products that stopped being sold between 5-7 years ago. Older than 7 is "obsolete" and newer is just "current" or something. I think lots of people keep their computers longer than you'd expect. I held onto my 2015 MBP until earlier this year, and I probably could have kept it going for longer than that. Also given that Big Sur will officially be available for MBPs as old as 7 years, I think Apple does expect people to hold onto them, or at least to be used by secondhand owners.
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Oct 14, 2020 14:51
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Wait a minute, the iPhone 12 is $829 if I get sim free vs $799 if I go with a Verizon locked phone? What the hell
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Oct 14, 2020 14:55
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30 bill credits up from 24 is really sucky. They almost had me at the extra $200 for trade-in if you've been a customer for 5+ years. $700 for trading in my Pro makes for a $300 12 Pro. Would need to pay ~$700 to payoff my AUP balance and be out Applecare, which would put me right back at $1200. It's a wash and complicated. Unless Costco does something crazy I'm doing the AUP path.
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Will be interesting to compare a 12 mini to an older style home button phone in person. The screen is 0.7” bigger (mostly in height) but the phone is shorter and narrower and a half ounce lighter which is pretty sizable. The 12 non-mini might also be worth a look for upgraders since it’s a bit bigger than the old phones but nowhere near as large as the 11 was. The 12 is over an ounce lighter than the 11, geez.
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Have there been any comparisons on video file sizes with the new models? If I recall, 4K 60 FPS video was around 400-500 MB per minute on the X and 11. I assume it will be roughly the same but was curious.
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Josh Lyman posted:The portless iPhone doesn’t make sense to me because how are you going transfer data (specifically large amounts of photos and video) to your PC? Weedle posted:this has been the "rumor" for like 3-4 years now and it doesn't seem any more likely than it did when it first came around. what do you do if your phone gets so hosed up that it gets stuck in recovery mode? throw it in the trash? They could do an iPad Pro style smart connector for diagnostic and data transfer
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Boris Galerkin posted:Wait a minute, the iPhone 12 is $829 if I get sim free vs $799 if I go with a Verizon locked phone? What the hell The $30 surcharge for an unlocked phone is a bold ecological initiative that seeks to reduce e-waste by making potential customers walk away in disgust
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Oct 14, 2020 15:34
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I was excited about the new phone but realized my 5yr old 6s still does everything I need (txt, calls, SA) so the initial hype faded pretty quickly. Question, is there way to refresh the phone in short of a hard factory reset. I just want to give this phone a nice wash.
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