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Mr. Squishy posted:cards played. But note that if you lose a card you played the elements also go away for that turn - for example by forgetting it or discarding it from an event.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:I've played a couple 6p games of TI 3rd ed, they were all full day/late night affairs. But one guy who played it like several times a month with a group said they got the time down to less than 3 hours. So with a little experience I imagine 4th ed could be pretty fast. As a student we'd play 3-5 player games of TI3 a few times a week. We were regularly around the three hour mark. A few times we even got two games in of an evening. Once you get over needing somebody to marshal the game with what action it is and who is doing what it's very fast
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Golden Bee posted:For those who played the Lord of the rings LCG, what are some good places to jump in, and places to look up decks? I’ve played hundreds of hours of Arkham and I’m not worried about something being hard if it’s fair. I've played a lot of this on the Switch. You might want to consider the digital version, its about a billion times cheaper than buying all the physical sets.
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Aramoro posted:Anyone played the game Campaign Trail from Grey Fox games? I have not, but if you want a solid 2 player election game check out the always super cheap Campaign Manager 2008 - it plays in 45-60 minutes and has optional pre-game deck building so you can play different strategies each time. the only negative I can find is that cards that let you draw their replacements are so overpowered that if both players don't know this, the one that does will cruise to a win. Not an issue with the initial player decks also a really good game to introduce area majority to a new board game player.
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I have a soft spot for Catan, as that was one of the first proper games I ever played. Despite it being a very simple and luck-driven game, I haven't managed to find other - better - games that scratch a similar itch. By that I mean a game where everybodys engine is built on a shared map, with physical components representing the different pieces of the engine. And placement of components directly affect other players. Most engine builder have people playing solitaire with their own tableau. Any suggestions for game that work like this?
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uncle blog posted:I have a soft spot for Cata, as that was one of the first proper games I ever played. Despite it being a very simple and luck-driven game, I haven't managed to find other - better - games that scratch a similar itch. By that I mean a game where everybodys engine is built on a shared map, with physical components representing the different pieces of the engine. And placement of components directly affect other players. Most engine builder have people playing solitaire with their own tableau. Any suggestions for game that work like this? Most of the Splotter Spellen games are like this, though they're not exactly engine builders, probably the most engine buildery one is Food Chain Magnate. Neuland is another logistics game where everything is built on a shared hex grid, though it's also not exactly an engine builder since buildings don't belong to a player (similar to the Splotter game Roads and Boats) . The old Tom Lehmann roll and move game Fast Food Franchise is a fairly clever take on Monopoly that uses a shared square grid that all players build on.
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uncle blog posted:I have a soft spot for Catan, as that was one of the first proper games I ever played. Despite it being a very simple and luck-driven game, I haven't managed to find other - better - games that scratch a similar itch. By that I mean a game where everybodys engine is built on a shared map, with physical components representing the different pieces of the engine. And placement of components directly affect other players. Most engine builder have people playing solitaire with their own tableau. Any suggestions for game that work like this? Keyflower The board may not be "shared" per se, but people use each other's boards at very little cost so it might as well be.
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I feel like Terra Mystica would be a fairly reasonable progression from Catan.
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Got to play The 7th Continent with my friend a couple days ago. We had planned to stick with it for a couple hours before moving on to other stuff, but we ended up spending our whole night on it. I like it a lot, though I can see some problems with it that could sour me on it over time. The rulebook sucks! I've never had to go through looking for a rules clarification and not find an answer half as often as I do with this game. I'm still not sure how to save. The game can be frustrating at times when it isn't clear where you should go or what you should do, but that's just what you get with open exploration. Still, I'm excited to play more of it next week.
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something that makes it difficult to recommend games as "Catan replacements" or "the next step up from Catan" or what have you is that a lot of people play Catan in weird ways, most notably with trading. the way trading works (or, heheheheheheh, doesn't,) in Catan really excites people i talk to since they often don't take a step back to see what their trades are accomplishing for their opponents or the rest of the table. lots of good euro games realized that Catan's trading is broken and simply removed the feature entirely but it's still a feature that many people liked.
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How's Underwater Cities? I got it as a gift last December. Never opened it. From what I read it sounded like it's a good, but not great, middle weight euro? Trying to see if it's worth cracking open or if I should just trade it still in shrink
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Bohnanza is my usual recommendation as a better version of Catan resource trading. But yeah, nothing built more directly on Catan because fundamentally Catan isn't very good. The way those different pieces combine isn't very fun a lot of the time, and you don't set out to build an unfun game on purpose. Nobody has figured out a way to improve it without removing key pieces.
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Megasabin posted:How's Underwater Cities? I got it as a gift last December. Never opened it. From what I read it sounded like it's a good, but not great, middle weight euro? Trying to see if it's worth cracking open or if I should just trade it still in shrink I played it once and would play it again, but I'm not super excited about it.
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Countblanc posted:something that makes it difficult to recommend games as "Catan replacements" or "the next step up from Catan" or what have you is that a lot of people play Catan in weird ways, most notably with trading. the way trading works (or, heheheheheheh, doesn't,) in Catan really excites people i talk to since they often don't take a step back to see what their trades are accomplishing for their opponents or the rest of the table. lots of good euro games realized that Catan's trading is broken and simply removed the feature entirely but it's still a feature that many people liked. Alternatively, house rule free trading into all euro games for the ultimate experience. The ratios on the board are bullshit, I want to trade my cubes with the guy next to me 
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Countblanc posted:in Catan really excites people i talk to since they often don't take a step back to see what their trades are accomplishing for their opponents or the rest of the table. lots of good euro games realized that Catan's trading is broken and simply removed the feature entirely but it's still a feature that many people liked. It's funny - the problem I see more commonly in Catan (or other games with positive political options) is that people don't trade nearly enough - and that people see this as correct "tight" play. They only trade if they're sure they're getting more benefit than their trading partner, and in practice that means trades are very rare. If a "promiscuous trader" (someone who trades whenever it benefits them, regardless of how it helps the other party) enters this metagame, they will usually dominate simply because they're taking part in so many beneficial exchanges. I've had a few nights where people scowled at me for doing so many bad trades that helped my opponents more than me... and then I won easy (despite not playing the game much). This pattern even comes up in games where deals aren't binding - stuff like Sherriff of Nottingham or Dominant Species Card Game. People are always avoiding (or breaking) deals, when just being a reliable trade partner is very lucrative. But yeah, open trading is a very political action in most designs - so most modern boardgames tamp it down to avoid having those politics overshadow the rest of the game.
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or do games like sidreal confluence or to a lesser extent john company where it's the entire point
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Gumdrop Larry posted:I feel like Terra Mystica would be a fairly reasonable progression from Catan. i agree with this - Terra mystica scratches a lot of the same itches as Catan does for me. Using stuff to build and upgrade buildings that give you more stuff, blocking other players, a spatial component, hexes with different colours, etc. Dancer posted:Keyflower also a good suggestion I think, but I think the spatial component of keyflower is not as interesting or fun as TM or even Catan
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Bohnanza, Concordia and Space Base are all replacements for Catan depending on which element you like (trading, expanding on a map, rolling dice for stuff) but it's hard to find a game that has all of Catan but good.
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Apparently the reprint of Tigris and Euphrates has an alternate map and some new pieces? Do they add anything substantial to the game?
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Cross posting The ChallengeInfinitum posted:
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OPEN CHALLENGE 
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Original GW Fury of Dracula is the only version worth playing. I mentioned it in the Discord, but if anyone wants to try Dirty Money I have access to playtest tables on Tabletopia. 2-5 player tableau builder where players are criminals trying to launder their ill gotten gains. Should run no more than an hour.
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Jedit posted:Original GW Fury of Dracula is the only version worth playing. Is that the one where you could lay infinite traps as Dracula?
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Jedit posted:Original GW Fury of Dracula is the only version worth playing. True OG gamers play the 1983 edition of Scotland Yard
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Nobody mentioned Chinatown as an alternative to Catan? It seems to tick all the boxes asked about. It's a trading game that uses a board where trades have a visual impact on the board state with random elements affecting resources available to trade. It doesn't have the same sort of resource breakdown as Catan but I think it fits the bill well enough.
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Gumdrop Larry posted:I feel like Terra Mystica would be a fairly reasonable progression from Catan. That’s a pretty huge jump in complexity.
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Wife and I did a learning game of Bee Lives over the weekend (well, part of one. We got throuhg I think 5 rounds). It was a little rough getting started, but after a few rounds I think we got the hang of it. It's all about resource management and deciding when to slap down neighboring hives to keep them from raiding you. I don't think I've quite grasped the strategy yet, but I wasn't really expecting to after half a game.
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Crackbone posted:That’s a pretty huge jump in complexity. Yeah, I like Terra Mystica but it's incredibly painful to learn and teach and isn't helped by having multiple factions being huge traps. If you're gonna play a game with Catan like pieces to draw people into the hobby, gotta vote for Concordia.
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ketchup vs catsup posted:I played it once and would play it again, but I'm not super excited about it. Contrary opinion: It was the biggest hit in my game group of last year's releases and is one that I can regularly pull out happily with all weights of gamers, from my folks back home at Texas to my heavy-gamer crowd in Seattle. It's actually really good and the expansion makes it great. edit: This is a late reply to Megasabin's question about Underwater Cities.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Availability is going to be your main limiting factor. FYI since it hit me by surprise: a few months back, FFG put all of LotR:LCG back into print, orderable via their website. Some of their stuff currently shows as out-of-stock again, but I think that's because a lot of it got bought up by people like me trying to backfill their collections. At any rate, older expansions and decks have had a fresh pile of inventory come out so some stores, ebay, amazon sellers etc. likely have more stock than before.
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I'm thinking of finally picking up A Feast for Odin, for something to play with my SO this winter, and I'm curious if anyone's got a playthrough/review video they like. I don't think I want to sit through a Rahdo video on it. AFFO seems to be somewhere between Caverna and Agricola in terms of tension, it that about right?
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manero posted:AFFO seems to be somewhere between Caverna and Agricola in terms of tension, it that about right? That's reasonably close yeah. The expansion makes things much tighter, especially at 2, by having Agricola style modular boards for the action selection (and removing a lot of spots for 2p). It's still less tense than Agricola because you don't have to do a little of everything to avoid negative points, you can just go hard in any one direction or mix things together however you'd like.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6yxQ5bORnY This is my go to for teaching new players. The first 30min is rules explanation, and the rest of it is a pretty good playthrough. It's for The Norwegians, but I would put it to you that you should pick it up as well
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Redundant posted:Nobody mentioned Chinatown as an alternative to Catan? It seems to tick all the boxes asked about. It's a trading game that uses a board where trades have a visual impact on the board state with random elements affecting resources available to trade. It doesn't have the same sort of resource breakdown as Catan but I think it fits the bill well enough. Yeah Chinatown is the superior Catan. Focuses on networking aligned property, has trading, random inputs, and is easy to teach. Even has random event cards if you decided you needed more variance like the event cards in Catan.
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manero posted:I'm thinking of finally picking up A Feast for Odin, for something to play with my SO this winter, and I'm curious if anyone's got a playthrough/review video they like. I don't think I want to sit through a Rahdo video on it. Feast doesn't feel as tense as Agricola, because the feeding phase is so easy to accomplish. But in the end it will still punish a new player just as much as Agricola, any experienced player will beat a newbie hands down. Its just at the end of the game of Feast a newbie should have a fully filled out board, rather than a depressing poverty farm like they would in Agricola. It mostly comes down to reproduction happening automatically. It's always the most powerful move, so it dominates the strategy of Agricola. You just new men for free in Feast, so there is a larger space for fooling around and collecting points.
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Infinitum posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6yxQ5bORnY Awesome, thanks!
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Chill la Chill posted:Yeah Chinatown is the superior Catan. Focuses on networking aligned property, has trading, random inputs, and is easy to teach. Even has random event cards if you decided you needed more variance like the event cards in Catan. Is this actually a thing? First I've ever heard of it
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I feel like Chinatown has a few too many building types. I have definitely had rounds where I drew nothing good so I had no bargaining chips. Wish there was a way to clean that up easily. Also really surprised at how good it and Bohnanza are as Catan replacements. In my experience, people who enjoy Catan either would enjoy anything and they just don't know what is out there or they love the social and trading aspect of it. The pure negotiation games probably nail that well.
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My family likes Las Vegas a lot. Has anyone tried the Boulevard expansion? It looks like Las Vegas Royale is a rerelease that includes the expansion, so I'd like to pick it up if it's any good.
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Street Horrrsing posted:Is this actually a thing? First I've ever heard of it The draw bag counts as random yeah? 
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:My family likes Las Vegas a lot. Has anyone tried the Boulevard expansion? It looks like Las Vegas Royale is a rerelease that includes the expansion, so I'd like to pick it up if it's any good. My favorite part of the expansion, the double die, is easily proxied if you wanna go that route. The other stuff is cool, but when I looked last was pricey AF.
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