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What's the thread's opinion on Hot Fuzz? Obviously ACAB, but on the other hand it's insanely well put together filmmaking wise and just seems to get better with each rewatch.
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1318282942762934272 Okay a couple of times in recent months I thought it was my imagination but he's definitely doubling up on the makeup some days. Like that's way beyond orange
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Bobby Deluxe posted:What's the thread's opinion on Hot Fuzz? Obviously ACAB, but on the other hand it's insanely well put together filmmaking wise and just seems to get better with each rewatch. It's very good but yeah sadly every character is a bastard (even the swan)
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Bobby Deluxe posted:What's the thread's opinion on Hot Fuzz? Obviously ACAB, but on the other hand it's insanely well put together filmmaking wise and just seems to get better with each rewatch. I watched that one last night  Love it. Reminded me in a way of a little series that was around at the same time - Suburban Shootout - where they lived in a peaceful village but unbeknowns to the men of the village (including the local somewhat dense police person) the women were in two heavily tooled-up gangs.
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peanut- posted:Found myself watching all 23 minutes of this instructional drive from London to Bath in 1963 and felt it would be of interest to some UKMT posters. 'A journey without incident' is such a ominous name I can't believe it's only been used for a road safety film and not some sort of thiller book or film. Lovely video though 
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Bobby Deluxe posted:What's the thread's opinion on Hot Fuzz? Obviously ACAB, but on the other hand it's insanely well put together filmmaking wise and just seems to get better with each rewatch. It good It's hyper-real anyway so you could just assume it's not our world and is a dimension where the police are less cruel and simply just mostly incompetent. edit: Hyperealism isn't the right term here. I mean somewhere between realistic and magical-realism. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/19/students-from-northern-england-facing-toxic-attitude-at-durham-universityquote:Students from northern England are being ridiculed over their accents and backgrounds at one of the country’s leading universities, and even forced out, according to a report compiled by a Durham student.
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Oct 19, 2020 23:59
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah but then I feel bad about the paperwork the paramedics will have to fill out. It’s a great series. Full of amazing acting from all the cast, great writing, fantastic injokes and wonderful gags. (Call out to Florida having the “Macho Man Randy Savage International Airport.”) But personally (and I accept that this is entirely a me thing, since loads of people loved it) the ending just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Both Hot Fuzz and SotD are magical in that they've become more iconic for me than most of the films that they send up. I still have no idea what happened with The World's End - it was a good enough time but it felt like a completely different thing rather than part of that trilogy.
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Ey oop am off t' me deconstruction tutoryal then an 'alf hoor at'greyoond track, bagum
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justcola posted:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/19/students-from-northern-england-facing-toxic-attitude-at-durham-university Is anyone actually surprised that Durham is full of cunts?
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The World's End depicts an aging Englishman destroying the world because he wants to cling to the ephemera of his youth, it's borderline prophetic at this point.
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Continuity RCP posted:Is anyone actually surprised that Durham is full of cunts? No, but people at a northern university being abused for being northern is hilarious considering the only southerners who go there are the ones that failed to get into Oxbridge. Which, to you or me, whatever, it's still a pretty respected university but if you're going to be a snobby little oval office I'm going to laugh at you for ending up at the less prestigious choice.
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forkboy84 posted:No, but people at a northern university being abused for being northern is hilarious considering the only southerners who go there are the ones that failed to get into Oxbridge. Which, to you or me, whatever, it's still a pretty respected university but if you're going to be a snobby little oval office I'm going to laugh at you for ending up at the less prestigious choice. The same used to be said of Exeter (back when I were a UCAS lassie). I did get an unconditional offer to go there but decided London was more my style.
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Oct 20, 2020 00:14
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The Question IRL posted:It’s a great series. Full of amazing acting from all the cast, great writing, fantastic injokes and wonderful gags. (Call out to Florida having the “Macho Man Randy Savage International Airport.”) The show was impossible to end well because of the philosophy of the show itself - it's advocating a liberal understanding of individual self improvement until some unknown threshold is reached and then the Good Place is realising self actualisation followed by voluntary non-existence. That's fine as far as liberal philosphy goes but it's kind of a crap answer in terms of the big questions like 'What is right or just?' which a lot of the show toyed with. Watching humans supposedly achieve complete satiation is also something that might exist beyond our current mental frame of reference as a species, let alone appearing in a tv show, so of course it will be disappointing. Edit: In contrast the end of the His Dark Materials still ends in a complete change in the role of the afterlife from endless existence to voluntary non-existence but there was a genuine loving class struggle and dethroning of God to get there. That's the sort of conclusion you can respect, one that actively organises to destroy the old order because of its flaws, not just a freaking judge deciding another way is better. namesake fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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If they'd made the door a periodic 'reset your memory and play on NG+,' I might have been more satisfied, because from a greater universal standpoint it sort of makes it all seem pointless and just fobs off the question of 'what happens when you're gone' to another layer. Then again Good Place was more using philosophy as a vehicle for entertainment rather than the other way round, it was never really going to be able to answer any big questions. forkboy84 posted:No, but people at a northern university being abused for being northern is hilarious considering the only southerners who go there are the ones that failed to get into Oxbridge. The Durham mentality is bizarre, they lord what little superiority they have over anyone they can but loving implode into obsequience or bitterness as soon as they meet anyone genuinely oxbridge. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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I went to Durham recently and thought it seemed like a nice town with a cathedral and some bridges, but I also know via this thread that Durham is full of people with a lot of knees and teeth that couldn't get into Cambridge so like a wee bit of safari in Dominic Cummings' nightclub, Cumm In. It'd be nice if there was more done about the north/south divide rather than dismissing it or getting into tangents about the names of bread. The Northern Powerhouse was just a slogan, but its a shame each 'city region' couldnt work together better rather than squabbling over scraps from the table. Even in the last week there's been a hierarchy of the tier 3 lockdown, with Lancastrians getting swole whilst Mancunians can't even. 1 day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSGS2Jvq3RQ
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just watching Shaun of the Dead: why is it reminding me of Covid-19 response! I always used to think that had the most realistic treatment of a zombie apocalypse. In that it caused a few days of disruption, but slow-moving unarmed crowds who don’t even run away was entirely within the capability of the police and army to deal with. Hence the bit at the end where, about 6 months later, there were zombie game shows and so on. These days, that’s no longer the way I would bet. Shooting zombies requires bullets, buying them requires a contract. The terms of that contract would not be enforceable if all the courts had been overrun by zombies due to the army having no bullets.
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The North will never truly be free until the whole country has known the beauty and freedom of smack barm, pey wet and babby's yed.
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Oct 20, 2020 00:28
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The same used to be said of Exeter (back when I were a UCAS lassie). I did get an unconditional offer to go there but decided London was more my style. my nephew is at exeter and can confirm it is full of the worst daddy's money filth imaginable
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radmonger posted:I always used to think that had the most realistic treatment of a zombie apocalypse. In that it caused a few days of disruption, but slow-moving unarmed crowds who don’t even run away was entirely within the capability of the police and army to deal with. Hence the bit at the end where, about 6 months later, there were zombie game shows and so on. Yeah. The book World War Z had a lovely Western chauvinist attitude about the zombie apocalypse in China where a survivor was describing how they kept raising regiments to go out and fight, each being worse and worse equipped than the last and then getting slaughtered by the now zombified previous regiments they sent out and that's exactly how a lot of states deal with their problems - just endlessly throwing expendable labour at the problem until everything falls apart or they've managed to bury the problem in corpses. Obviously doesn't work if the corpses get back up and join the enemy but there's a lot of stress points even if that isn't the case! Edit: At least someone does actually eat the rich in that book. Maybe it's better than I remember. namesake fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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The grassroots NEC slate was the result of hours of gruelling and frustrating negotiations, I have heard from someone who was at the table. Can’t say I’m thrilled to have Pidcock on there, and that’s a sentiment shared by many. But we lost the NEC during the leadership election because the left vote split. Solidarity is our only path to any kind of victory. Also, while I don’t think there’s any official endorsement, I believe that Diana Holland is generally considered the lefty choice for treasurer.
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namesake posted:The show was impossible to end well because of the philosophy of the show itself - it's advocating a liberal understanding of individual self improvement until some unknown threshold is reached and then the Good Place is realising self actualisation followed by voluntary non-existence. That's fine as far as liberal philosphy goes but it's kind of a crap answer in terms of the big questions like 'What is right or just?' which a lot of the show toyed with. Watching humans supposedly achieve complete satiation is also something that might exist beyond our current mental frame of reference as a species, let alone appearing in a tv show, so of course it will be disappointing. Yeah pretty much. What annoyed me was the ultimate vision of the afterlife* was like a 20 something philosophy’s version of Heaven. They just spend all day doing whatever they want, hanging out with their girlfriend/boyfriend and having dinner with their parents. Who apologise for not doing a good enough job of raising them. It sort of asks the question of “What would relationships be like if you had all the time in the world?” But their answer was “Eventually one person gets bored and decides to melt into non-existence.” At no point did they want to address the idea of “couples together for long enough will want to have kids.” And that’s what annoyed me. At the time the last episode came out, I was about 5 months out from losing my daughter. And watching a show which was all about reforming the Afterlife into something better, I was struck by how “Yeah if this is what is waiting for you after death, you still won’t get to see your child.” Like, I get that the topic of dead children doesn’t make for good comedy (Though the Jim Carey show “Kidding” does use that topic) and it’s a topic that most people just want to stay away from, but in a show that’s supposed to be about philosophical themes and it does go into “people often inherent flaws from parents and they have to resolve that” it really wants to avoid the concept of children. Still with the absence of kids in the show, I just kept going back in my head and trying to imagine how the shows rules would apply to children. And the results weren’t great. It just made me so angry if the notion was “Well according to this show, your unborn child who died can’t earn points. So it’s either eternal torture for them, or they get locked in a room doing a philosophy quiz until they get it right. At which point they emerge as like a 20 something, and you haven’t gotten to actually raise them as a parent. Enjoy your super artificial relationship.” But, like I said, it was my personal problem with the show. I’m sure not everyone would have the same issues. *= I mean they just sidestepped other big questions like ‘Is there Life outside Earth? What is it like? Does it get to engage with the Good Place and other afterlives?” But I can see that they might have wanted to keep it focused on humans. josh04 posted:The World's End depicts an aging Englishman destroying the world because he wants to cling to the ephemera of his youth, it's borderline prophetic at this point. It’s even better. Two drunken English men insist that they make a life altering decision on the future unilaterally. Despite being warned of the consequences multiple times they insist on going their own path. The end result is the complete destruction of society and the deaths of countless people.
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Used to be a street fundraiser and Durham was easily in my top 3 least favourite locations - possibly would have been least if I'd had to go there more than twice. It's entirely students (not the fun kind who still chat to you and are nice, the oval office type) and old right wing fuckers. It's an interesting place for a manager of fundraisers, as every now and then you'd get one person sign up who'd go for 5 or 10 ten times the usual, and almost certainly be doing it forever. Cost-wise, this makes it a great site, but for the people on the ground it's a loving nightmare. One of the very, very, very (quite possibly only, now I think about it) few times I''ve lost my rag at someone on that job was in Durham. Doesn't surprise me one bit that northerners have a poo poo time there - it's like an even more dystopian Harry Potter world, but with more terfs. Anyway that's my Durham story hope you enjoyed. Fake edit: If any of you have splashed on an Oculus Quest 2, pm me or let me know - platforms full of literal kids, none of my real friends have it, and you're the only online community I like.
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The Question IRL posted:It’s even better. Two drunken English men insist that they make a life altering decision on the future unilaterally. Despite being warned of the consequences multiple times they insist on going their own path. Not sure how to react to the rest of your post. I've not had children but I'm a godfather to a few and I'd take a bullet for any of them. Can't imagine the pain you went through. Love to you and your daughter.
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I'm starting to get real bummed out by this covid app, I have to go into the office occasionally by public transport and it's pinging me daily to say that I've been near someone who reported positive (but don't worry about it!). Today I got three of the loving things. I can start avoiding the supermarket entirely with home deliveries, but the office is a 100 minute walk and I'm not super wild about taking a bike on the roads in the dark, so I've not got a lot of options there. I've also noticed every bus recently has at least one person with either their mask not covering their nose or just not wearing one, continuing Manchester's tradition of not taking the pandemic even remotely seriously. In related news, my parents live in Pickering in Yorkshire, which has remained extremely low risk this entire time, but last weekend was the war weekend, which got cancelled, but apparently that didn't stop an absolute mountain of pricks from turning up in their WW2 uniforms and crowding into shops without masks, and now my parents are getting pinged with covid notifications after receiving none. Because of course it was the boomer and boomer-adjacent war fetishists who would ruin everything.
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St Andrews has a similar rep to Durham but I always found that you just ended up with a pretty clear gap between the megaposho weirdos and the more normal types, and while I'd see plenty of green welly girls and big strapping public school lads about town there wasn't much interaction outside of formal classes/tutorials. Even the bars were kinda split by their clientele and I wouldn't have dreamed of going to the pretentious places they did, so you'd very rarely be socialising in the same places. I'm surprised Durham hasn't developed the same kind of toxic-ish but probably better for everyone in some respects class segregation. Absolutely beyond ridiculous if tutors and lecturers and other staff are acting like that though, that's seriously bad form and needs to be stamped out. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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And for who not to vote for we can see my local in love with Starmer constituencyquote:The constituency party met a few weeks ago and voted on our nominations for the NEC. They represent various opinions in the party but all are committed to giving support to Keir Starmer in his efforts to turn us into a party of Government and convince the millions of votes who have lost faith in us to vote Labour again. Send me my ballot you bastards so I can quit.
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ThomasPaine posted:St Andrews has a similar rep to Durham but I always found that you just ended up with a pretty clear gap between the megaposho weirdos and the more normal types, and while I'd see plenty of green welly girls and big strapping public school lads about town there wasn't much interaction outside of formal classes/tutorials. Even the bars were kinda split by their clientele and I wouldn't have dreamed of going to the pretentious places they did, so you'd very rarely be socialising in the same places. I'm surprised Durham hasn't developed the same kind of toxic-ish but probably better for everyone in some respects class segregation. The rule of thumb is that everyone is a turd while they're at St Andrews but some of them cease to be turds afterwards once they have to interact with the real world.
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Everyone's a bit of a poo poo in their late teens and early twenties but ignoring that there were actually some very good people there if you could find them!
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ThomasPaine posted:St Andrews has a similar rep to Durham but I always found that you just ended up with a pretty clear gap between the megaposho weirdos and the more normal types, and while I'd see plenty of green welly girls and big strapping public school lads about town there wasn't much interaction outside of formal classes/tutorials. Even the bars were kinda split by their clientele and I wouldn't have dreamed of going to the pretentious places they did, so you'd very rarely be socialising in the same places. I'm surprised Durham hasn't developed the same kind of toxic-ish but probably better for everyone in some respects class segregation. That was exactly my experience of St Andrews. I made the mistake in my first year of staying at Dean's Court, so my immediate impression was pretty tainted by daddy's money. Thankfully, most of the rest of the postgraduates I met elsewhere were all pretty decent and down-to-earth. I even joined a Marx reading group in my English department.
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namesake posted:Edit: In contrast the end of the His Dark Materials still ends in a complete change in the role of the afterlife from endless existence to voluntary non-existence but there was a genuine loving class struggle and dethroning of God to get there. That's the sort of conclusion you can respect, one that actively organises to destroy the old order because of its flaws, not just a freaking judge deciding another way is better. Also echoing this and I really wonder if I should reread it as an adult, I liked it as a kid but I wonder how well it stacks up from an angry commie perspective, cos thinking back there is a massive class/revolutionary theme running through it that I probably didn't properly pick up on because I was a kid when I read it and it also works from an "adults are stupid" perspective too. Convincing the enforcers of the afterlife to throw off their allegiance to the metaphysical bourgeoisie which binds them in lives of internalized and externalized misery and find purpose working with the ghostletariat is probably very metaphorical and also literally just the plot.
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I had an email from Unite today with a name to vote for in the NEC elections. I was surprised, as a 'community' member, I didn't get a vote from them in the leadership elections (but I hadn't officially quit the party at that point). So I don't know if I have a vote or if it's just an email everyone got. I'm sure I'll find out!
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Hezzy posted:Bigot  forever at thisBobby Deluxe posted:What's the thread's opinion on Hot Fuzz? Obviously ACAB, but on the other hand it's insanely well put together filmmaking wise and just seems to get better with each rewatch. 
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^^^ The model village finale does kind of stand out and feel a bit weaker in comparison to the rest, though by that point I'm usually willing to forgive. The Question IRL posted:Despite being warned of the consequences multiple times they insist on going their own path. * Who's idea of peace is to murder entire societies if they don't like their definition of 'peace.' Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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