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Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

TheBacon posted:

It's entirely possible that wasn't actually the law and the cops/sheriff in south lake tahoe in the 60s just wrote tickets for whatever they wanted!

It being south shore, this is true even today!

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Enzo test mule, I prefer it to the Enzo.

https://twitter.com/imtylerhill/status/1319263208495026176?s=19

Also have a link to a video by Mazda on their 100 year history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNFkmlfqXt0

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Oct 23, 2020

dpack_1
Mar 23, 2009

Let another's wounds be your warning

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Enzo test mule, I prefer it to the Enzo.

https://twitter.com/imtylerhill/status/1319263208495026176?s=19

Also have a link to a video by Mazda on their 100 year history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNFkmlfqXt0

Yeah, that looks like a smoother, sleeker, Testarossa and much nicer lines than the Enzo. Not that the Enzo is bad, but it's like asking someone if they'd like their $1 Billion wired to their bank or in gold bullion. Same thing, but the gold bars would look a hell of a lot nicer.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I was wondering if this should go into the Dashcam thread or here, but I think the ending to this video makes it an awesome car poo poo thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZiBGMqy3-U

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

I was wondering if this should go into the Dashcam thread or here, but I think the ending to this video makes it an awesome car poo poo thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZiBGMqy3-U

Thats some prime Schaden!

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22JfNHiC1k
:stare: 331 mph/532 kph

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
I wasn't ready for the pull at about 320 kph.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

You Am I posted:

I was wondering if this should go into the Dashcam thread or here, but I think the ending to this video makes it an awesome car poo poo thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZiBGMqy3-U

christ the comments on this one are just incredible

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

MrOnBicycle posted:

I wasn't ready for the pull at about 320 kph.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Holy poo poo!

Thorbeef
Jul 24, 2007

Does the company explain why they named the car after an ancient, slow (not)dinosaur that refused to turn into a chicken?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

MrOnBicycle posted:

I wasn't ready for the pull at about 320 kph.

Tom Nelson is a mad genius.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Tired: SSC Tuatara

Inspired: SSC Teratoma

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

It’s mad to me that they went and did 330mph on freakin cup2s!
I’m also amazed it doesn’t have that much power really. Proper confusing car.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I mean, it does have seventeen hundred horsepower, that's not what I would call a "doesn't have that much" amount of power. The drag coefficient is quite low for a supercar and I'm guessing the seven gears lets them get away with gearing fuckery that helps push it that fast.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


It's crazy fast if it can actually do those kinda speeds on a whim. I mean that's top fuel dragster speed, just not quiiiiiiite as quickly.

GlenMR
Dec 11, 2005

What is this emotion called "criminal negligence"?

supermegaultra posted:

Does the company explain why they named the car after an ancient, slow (not)dinosaur that refused to turn into a chicken?



The SSC Tuatara page on Wikipedia says it's the animal with the fastest molecular evolution on the planet.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Today I was made aware that Volkswagen have their own sausage factory

quote:

The sausage is branded as a "Volkswagen Original Part" and has been given the part number 199 398 500 A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWP32tCPv_w

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

I have the urge to go to my VW dealers parts desk and place an order...

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

MrYenko posted:

I have the urge to go to my VW dealers parts desk and place an order...

It's VW. They'd just come to your house, jam a sausage up your butt, and charge $80/hr. for the privilege.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't see a reason to pay more than $40/hr for an arschwurst job.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


madeintaipei posted:

It's VW. They'd just come to your house, jam a sausage up your butt, and charge $80/hr. for the privilege.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't see a reason to pay more than $40/hr for an arschwurst job.

The things I read when test fitting my lederhosen for Oktoberfest...

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

madeintaipei posted:

for an arschwurst job.

Holy poo poo

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Bape Culture posted:

It’s mad to me that they went and did 330mph on freakin cup2s!
I’m also amazed it doesn’t have that much power really. Proper confusing car.

Guy on Fchat actually owns the first one (which was used for the speed run) and made some posts about it.

Basically they approached Michelin for tires and they said the problem isn't with rotational forces it is with heat buildup. Since the car only weighs only 2750 pounds versus the 4400 or so on the Bugatti that's how they can get away with it. He also said if the winds were calm it has another 15-20 MPH left.

Link for those interested https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/ssc-tuatara.616616/

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Rhyno posted:

Holy poo poo

Well, poo poo. Who do I have to pay for a you-know-what in lederhosen AV?

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

madeintaipei posted:

It's VW. They'd just come to your house, jam a sausage up your butt, and charge $80/hr. for the privilege.

Where'd you find such cheap labor rates?? That's a hell of a deal for a good sausagin'

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


An insane build:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G-GvZdCSvk
At least they didn't ruin a real Supra

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Oct 27, 2020

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
Shun me all you want but I always thought and will think that welding XX engine on a subframe to metal cage that is welded onto chassis with front cut off is not interesting. In this case the body can be any, it just needs some 'flesh' to be soldered or bolted onto. Yeah, it's a great amount of work and dedication (and money) but still isn't the same as a swap. Many swaps do require welding at least new engine mounts, sometimes cutting existing chassis parts but the overall structure and suspension can be left almost same (adjusted for weight and performance of new engine ofc). It's not like a 'purist' thing, just seeing something like M73B54 crammed under MB hood is one thing, almost drift-like front 'carriage' swaps is totally another one.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Consider that lopping off the front in favor for a tube frame is a great way to 1) fit the new engine 2) drop a bunch of weight 3) add a bunch of rigidity 4) improve accessibility, 5) add simplicity. While I can agree there is a bit of an art to swap an engine into a car without grafting a new nose onto it, making it complex for the sake of retaining as much of the old car as possible is pretty much the definition of purism. Make it simple, make it light. Screw what the manufacturer intended because it was never intended for a different engine. If you decide you want to retain power steering, AC, heating, suspension geometry, weight balance, and handling characteristics, make those light and simple as well.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
I'd say that purism is the cancer that made 911 prices quadruple and consists of adjusting your center caps accordingly to porsche manual (the shield bottom edge must be pointing towards wheel nipple). If you have them misaligned, you are laughed at.
Let alone adding a new headunit, or, ohgod, removing badges. Adding non-contemporary wheels is considered blasphemy at this point.

I agree with you there on 'why a tube frame', but this draws very close to outright building your car (which is totally beautiful but very different art of building) around a monocoque with all other parts being fiberglass on lightweight tubes. At what point it becomes a car ship of Theseus? No one knows. As a bonus, swapping into existing place most of the time it can be made to look street legal which is a huge plus for countries with stricter laws than some USA states that only require a smog check on registration :v:

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I have a very distilled view on this that would be pretty polarizing. Want to modify your car? If it's not for racing, comfort or utility, you're just wasting money. This includes this Supra by my definition. It can be anything it wants to be, but the best at nothing, if there is no goal or rule book.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


This was always a great looking car but in race mode, drat.

https://twitter.com/mwoodski/status/1321085013522337796?s=20

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

AntherUslessPoster posted:

Shun me all you want but I always thought and will think that welding XX engine on a subframe to metal cage that is welded onto chassis with front cut off is not interesting. In this case the body can be any, it just needs some 'flesh' to be soldered or bolted onto. Yeah, it's a great amount of work and dedication (and money) but still isn't the same as a swap. Many swaps do require welding at least new engine mounts, sometimes cutting existing chassis parts but the overall structure and suspension can be left almost same (adjusted for weight and performance of new engine ofc). It's not like a 'purist' thing, just seeing something like M73B54 crammed under MB hood is one thing, almost drift-like front 'carriage' swaps is totally another one.

Build your car how you like op.

I’ve looked on in horror at some of the things B is for Build does, but always thought the criticism on his Lambo build hilarious. People complained that he just welded a bunch of alloy box section on front and rear - ignoring that he had a whole other intact car to copy from and simply replicated most of what Lambo did from the factory!

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Not that it's a big deal on classics where crash protection was an afterthought even from the factory, but I always wondered about the "chop up the unibody and weld in some scaffolding, I'm sure that won't impale the driver in a crash" approach. Like those Russian take half a mangled BMW and bash it back to near enough that you can't tell from the outside... People recoil in horror because of what it might do in a crash, but grafting on a tube frame with some sheet metal tack welded to it, that's fine, because it's tubes! Tubes strong!

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Finger Prince posted:

Not that it's a big deal on classics where crash protection was an afterthought even from the factory, but I always wondered about the "chop up the unibody and weld in some scaffolding, I'm sure that won't impale the driver in a crash" approach. Like those Russian take half a mangled BMW and bash it back to near enough that you can't tell from the outside... People recoil in horror because of what it might do in a crash, but grafting on a tube frame with some sheet metal tack welded to it, that's fine, because it's tubes! Tubes strong!

Well, it is fine when it's in a caged race car with the cage tied in properly and the occupants always wearing a helmet, hans and 5 point. It's very inadvisable for a street car.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Finger Prince posted:

Not that it's a big deal on classics where crash protection was an afterthought even from the factory, but I always wondered about the "chop up the unibody and weld in some scaffolding, I'm sure that won't impale the driver in a crash" approach. Like those Russian take half a mangled BMW and bash it back to near enough that you can't tell from the outside... People recoil in horror because of what it might do in a crash, but grafting on a tube frame with some sheet metal tack welded to it, that's fine, because it's tubes! Tubes strong!

Does the term "crumple zone" mean anything to you?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Motronic posted:

Well, it is fine when it's in a caged race car with the cage tied in properly and the occupants always wearing a helmet, hans and 5 point. It's very inadvisable for a street car.

Yeah, exactly. I get it on a race car. You build a safety cage and some suspension mounts and the rest is just for marketing and keeping the weather out. But on a road car you want crumple zones. Or you don't care, which is fine, but that's where I think the difficulty of an engine swap lies. Maintaining as much as possible the safety designs of the street chassis, while stuffing as much engine as you can within those constraints. Fine if all you want is a cool engine on a tray to show off with, but a show car or tech demonstrator doesn't have to be roadworthy.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

MrOnBicycle posted:

I wasn't ready for the pull at about 320 kph.

It's like at that point the car went "oh, you want me to go fast, do you?"

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Finger Prince posted:

Yeah, exactly. I get it on a race car. You build a safety cage and some suspension mounts and the rest is just for marketing and keeping the weather out. But on a road car you want crumple zones. Or you don't care, which is fine, but that's where I think the difficulty of an engine swap lies. Maintaining as much as possible the safety designs of the street chassis, while stuffing as much engine as you can within those constraints. Fine if all you want is a cool engine on a tray to show off with, but a show car or tech demonstrator doesn't have to be roadworthy.

What if the safety designs of the original chassis resemble a pretorn beer can?

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


cakesmith handyman posted:

What if the safety designs of the original chassis resemble a pretorn beer can?

Totally free game.

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BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
I know plenty of places let you register almost anything with wheels, lights and indicators, but as an example, in NZ’s most recent round of changes to LVVTA (Low Volume Vehicle Technical Association) rules have some interesting changes around structural modifications. Any vehicle under 14 years old may NOT modify any part of the front crash structure. In practice, this means no aftermarket front mount intercoolers and definitely no drilling holes for piping. Over 14 years, you’re allowed “minimal trimming” to allow piping, but if you drilled a whole 3 or 4 inch hole, you’re probably not getting that street registered.

If you could get an engineer to sign off proving your mods don’t affect the original crash performance you’d be OK, but about the only way you’re doing that is by doing your own crash testing. No certifying engineer is putting their career on the line for a front mount.

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