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FlamingLiberal posted:Arena is probably the best of these Despite its cheesiness - the really fake Gorn suit, the fighting scenes - Arena is actually a really good episode. I like how it shows that Kirk is wrong and that he gradually realizes he's wrong as he interacts with the Gorn captain. That seems fairly unprecedented for '60s sci-fi TV.
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Cross post from the GBS Trek thread. I made this and some other goony shirts a couple nights ago if anyone wants to support a fellow dork.  https://teespring.com/starfleet-deserved-wolf-359?edit=1&pid=369&cid=6512
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The point of Savage Curtain is quite different from Arena. It’s about how we define ourselves in relation to our heroes. The Lincoln of the story is just Kirk’s projection of what Abe would be like. What Kirk imagines is acted out by him. It’s quite revealing of Kirk’s character. There’s a similar but lesser effect with (Spock’s notion of) Surak, willingly walking off to get martyred: it shows you what Spock holds as the ideal of his society. It’s character building stuff. The actual plot mechanics to get there are fairly lame compared to Arena. Bread and Circuses has a snarky meta point to make about the use of fighting scenes as a cheap way to draw attention on a tv show, but otherwise isn’t what I would call a “message episode”. Gamesters is goofy and fairly poo poo. Mostly memorable for its kink/creep factor e: Amok Time is another big “I was forced to fight by an alien!!!” episode skasion fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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I love Bread & Circuses but I can’t articulate exactly why. I think it’s mostly just because it’s a far more entertaining use of the “parallel earths” poo poo than Nazi Planet, Gangster Planet, or Cold War Allegory Planet.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:44
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I love Bread & Circuses but I can’t articulate exactly why. I think it’s mostly just because it’s a far more entertaining use of the “parallel earths” poo poo than Nazi Planet, Gangster Planet, or Cold War Allegory Planet. The satire of tv is fairly funny which helps. Also the utter screwball ending which is never discussed in anything again Gangster Planet is a good episode in the dumb fun category. If you don’t find the idea of Spock pretending to be a mobster innately funny then it won’t do too much for you. Nazi Planet is a bore episode with one good line. I can’t even think which Cold War Allegory Planet you mean since they did that one a couple times.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:48
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skasion posted:The satire of tv is fairly funny which helps. Also the utter screwball ending which is never discussed in anything again I meant The Omega Glory (I think?), the one where Kirk reads the Constitution.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:50
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In terms of Cold War allegory planet, Vietnam planet was good, magic Constitution planet was bad. Arena is interesting because the Frederic Brown short story it's based on is pretty much the reverse of the episode. In it, Earth is under attack by these enemies called Rollers, who are basically these tentacled blobs. This other race of super advanced aliens grabs a scout pilot and says, "We've figured out this war will destroy one of your species and damage the other so badly, it will never evolve to our level, so we're taking you and a Roller to fight in single combat, and we'll destroy the loser's species. Ultimately, he wins, the Rollers are destroyed and earth is saved. There's no sparing the enemy, there's no communication (the human tries, but the alien is so filled with hatred, he cant), and no twist ending.
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Oct 26, 2020 02:57
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Yeah I didn't care for A Piece of the Action Mainly because Kirk and Spock kept trying to negotiate in good faith with the gangsters and they would get double crossed. Repeat at least 3 times.
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Oct 26, 2020 03:27
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah I didn't care for A Piece of the Action In response to which, they end up stunning a city block from orbit with their fancy heaters, and then completly takin' over the joint. It's good campy fun. It's always been a favorite, although I admit it's not exactly heavy on message or moral.
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Epicurius posted:In terms of Cold War allegory planet, Vietnam planet was good, magic Constitution planet was bad. Classic science fiction was disturbingly quick to resolve conflicts through genocide.
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Powered Descent posted:In response to which, they end up stunning a city block from orbit with their fancy heaters, and then completly takin' over the joint. It's good campy fun. I get that they didn't want to interfere and make things worse, but that ship had sailed
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Another point in favor of Savage Curtain is Col. Green. It was a neat choice to make one of Earth's "historical villains" be someone from the future and not take the easy way out and show someone a 60s viewer would know. Gives some depth to the future setting even if it is typical Trek "familiar thing, familiar thing, future and/or alien thing" listmaking. It was also bold to make him an American and the most modern one of the fake people that could try to appeal to Kirk as an equal.
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I didn't really like A Piece Of The Action either. It's another case where it's more fun to remember than to actually watch. A few clips of Kirk & Spock acting like gangsters and I'm set.
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Astroman posted:Another point in favor of Savage Curtain is Col. Green. It was a neat choice to make one of Earth's "historical villains" be someone from the future and not take the easy way out and show someone a 60s viewer would know. Gives some depth to the future setting even if it is typical Trek "familiar thing, familiar thing, future and/or alien thing" listmaking. It was also bold to make him an American and the most modern one of the fake people that could try to appeal to Kirk as an equal.
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Oct 26, 2020 12:55
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The Royal Mail in the UK are doing special Star Trek stamps. This is Robert Picardo erasure.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:13
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Ash? Of all characters... Ash?
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MikeJF posted:Ash?
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Oct 26, 2020 15:23
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Oh Shazad Latif is British. It's all the main characters plus all the British actors.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:24
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MikeJF posted:Oh Shazad Latif is British. It's all the main characters plus all the British actors. Leonard Nimoy is not British?? edit: did you quick edit that from captains or did I just slip into a parallel universe?
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V-Men posted:Leonard Nimoy is not British?? pretty sure there was a quick edit. Burnham is also not a captain and not british, whereas Lorca is played by a brit.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:29
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V-Men posted:Leonard Nimoy is not British?? I quick edited because I forgot about Michael being main while not being Captain. Nimoy totally counts as a captain/main though. Suck it Shatner.
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Oct 26, 2020 15:30
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What is this Saru erasure
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FlamingLiberal posted:What is this Saru erasure Can’t put an alien looking alien on a stamp. Better put the literal bad guy of the first season on there.
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Kibayasu posted:Can’t put an alien looking alien on a stamp. Better put the literal bad guy of the first season on there. That's a terrible thing to say about Burnham.
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The idea that all the miserable characters from Disco will be on merch forever because the show had Star Trek in the name is a lol
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Oct 26, 2020 18:57
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STAR TREK
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The idea that all the miserable characters from Disco will be on merch forever because the show had Star Trek in the name is a lol Same but all the stupid poo poo in Lower Decks becoming official Canon and painstakingly recorded on Memory Alpha
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Oct 26, 2020 19:03
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The idea that all the miserable characters from Disco will be on merch forever because the show had Star Trek in the name is a lol Michael Burnham Halloween masks with real crying tear action
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Oct 26, 2020 19:41
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Tighclops posted:Michael Burnham Halloween masks with real crying tear action
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Oct 26, 2020 19:47
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When I was a kid my mom made me a red angel costume like in Star Trek and I showed all my friends on zoom
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Oct 26, 2020 19:57
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Star Trek may outlast the USPS.
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multijoe posted:Same but all the stupid poo poo in Lower Decks becoming official Canon and painstakingly recorded on Memory Alpha 
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I'm glad they keep loving with the canon. The detail-cataloging fandom is sick, just burn it all down.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I'm glad they keep loving with the canon. The detail-cataloging fandom is sick, just burn it all down. Watching them set themselves on fire over Enterprise 20 years ago was hilarious, and it's STILL loving hilarious today. Also Jesus Christ, next year it's gonna be 20 years since Enterprise premiered 
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Oct 27, 2020 00:21
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I still have the VHS recording I made of Broken Bow when it first aired, because I was being dragged to a dinner with my grandparents. I remember reading the comments on it on TrekBBS before I watched it.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:29
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Don't worry, it was just the edges and she pressed it back down and then everything was totally fine. It's probably still there!
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Oct 27, 2020 00:45
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I assumed that the plastic film was a reference to dorks keeping the toys in the wrapped box.
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Insane Totoro posted:I assumed that the plastic film was a reference to dorks keeping the toys in the wrapped box. Person who has not bought a new TV, phone, tablet, computer, or anything with a screen in the last ten years spotted 
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I leave it on there because I use my electronics for far longer than their intended lifespan, so might as well get a little extra scratch protection.Drink-Mix Man posted:I'm glad they keep loving with the canon. The detail-cataloging fandom is sick, just burn it all down. Fool, you've just given them more details to catalog! With more elaborate details about the details!
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Is there a "best" version of ds9 streaming? Or is it all the same version on Netflix Amazon etc?
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