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Phlegmish posted:Sometimes my hobgoblins automatically attack belt rats, other times they don't. What determines this? Sorcery. Re:John, Leaders make mistakes, acknowledge their mistake, remediate their mistake and the process that allowed it to occur. Failures bluster, blame, and grieve. Time to find out if John chooses to be a leader, or a failure. Meanwhile, has the clone vat gone up on sisi yet?
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Phlegmish posted:Sometimes my hobgoblins automatically attack belt rats, other times they don't. What determines this? I think this is called "aggro". Like if you have them out already and then rats warp in and attack you, they should attack them back. If you are being attacked by rats and then you put out drones, they won't automatically attack. Make sure your drone settings are set to aggressive and focus fire.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:49
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Anias posted:Sorcery. Oh, he already picked. It's the bluster, blame, and threaten.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:51
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Sickening posted:I think this is called "aggro". Like if you have them out already and then rats warp in and attack you, they should attack them back. If you are being attacked by rats and then you put out drones, they won't automatically attack. Alright. Where do I set my drone settings?
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Oct 26, 2020 16:52
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Phlegmish posted:Alright. Where do I set my drone settings? in space your drone window has a drop down (top left I think). Drones set to aggressive will allow them to auto shoot something that shoots you first
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Oct 26, 2020 16:54
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Phlegmish posted:Sometimes my hobgoblins automatically attack belt rats, other times they don't. What determines this? For drones to attack rats you need to get them to focus fire (or aggressive fire I am not sure without looking). On your drone bay window right click the corner and it will give you these options. They will only attack rats that are attacking you. If rats have you yellow boxed they will not attack. Adjust your orbit range closer for them to hit you. Blood Raider small frigate rats need to be in like 9km of you to do damage. Make sure you are in drone control range. For Vexors this is like 45km, if you are further away from rats then this they wont attack.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:55
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captainclaw posted:in space your drone window has a drop down (top left I think). Ah, thanks. I was already on Aggressive but didn't have Focus Fire. What does the latter do?
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Oct 26, 2020 16:55
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Phlegmish posted:Ah, thanks. I was already on Aggressive but didn't have Focus Fire. What does the latter do? It makes sure your drones attack together instead of sometimes attacking different things.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:56
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Phlegmish posted:Ah, thanks. I was already on Aggressive but didn't have Focus Fire. What does the latter do? I'm sure that makes them follow what you're shooting with your weapons automatically. It's been many moons since I changed those settings though edit Sickening posted:It makes sure your drones attack together instead of sometimes attacking different things. Actually, maybe what he said 
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Oct 26, 2020 16:56
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The hamburger menu in the drone window (when in space). Re: john_hardly fun fleets One fleet for me was enough for me to never fly with him again. Blue Dictor (not me) is trigger happy and bubbles blues, blues get welped, john rages on comms the whole way back to 1dq. Yeah dictors should pay attention and not fuckup, but sometimes they do, yeah it sucks, poo poo happens, get on with it.
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Oct 26, 2020 16:59
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captainclaw posted:I'm sure that makes them follow what you're shooting with your weapons automatically. Yeah, I am just shooting from the hip here but I think that if you don't have that enabled they just attack whatever they are closest to and that isn't always the same ship.
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Oct 26, 2020 17:00
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KoeK posted:The hamburger menu in the drone window (when in space). Ironic given that “poo poo happens” seems to be his attitude to goonfucking
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GeneticWeapon posted:I sent an email to newbies@goonfleetdotcom asking how to to fix my forums access, I can't remember my password from 7yrs ago. And 'email me a new password' doesn't work. If I need to send isk to our IT guys that's not a problem. If you're doing that, I think you have access to the forums? Or am I misunderstanding.
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It took me longer than I'd care to admit to find the drone aggressive/passive/focus buttons and I'm still not convinced it works properly. I mostly rat and it's easy enough to just direct them anyway so I can live with it
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Oct 26, 2020 17:06
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KoeK posted:The hamburger menu in the drone window (when in space). There's a lot of other FC's who might get annoyed or mad but they'll explain what to do next time. Did an Ares fleet last night and tunnel visioned on a hacker like a moron (with a few other people) when a bunch of other ships landed on grid. Got well-deserved poo poo for it, got told that a 20 mil hacker is not worth suiciding interceptors on, got told to reship, everything is good, just don't do it again. He was a good FC, helped me get better at interceptors, and I totally forgot his name now. Hell even in that ill-fated highsec fleet the logi learned to bring whore drones  People are dumb, they make mistakes in ships they haven't flown much (or even if they've flown them a lot) but raging out isn't helpful, honestly. We've got a lot of retvets coming back who may not have done a lot of these mechanics. poo poo happens. We don't get people trying new roles that we need (logi, dictors, interceptors) if everything time they gently caress up they get raged at.
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I haven't witnessed any bad FCs, although some of them need to work on their pronunciation and/or slow down a little. Especially since not all of us are native English speakers. A week or two ago I had one that would repeat each command 3-4 times, but most of the time I still was unable to understand what he was sayingangry armadillo posted:It took me longer than I'd care to admit to find the drone aggressive/passive/focus buttons and I'm still not convinced it works properly. Yeah but right now I'm mining and that's super afk Although I think it would take them literally an hour to kill my Procurer with shield extender, as long as there's no FOB in the system. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Imho when it becomes clear that a FC wont stop raging, take away his role and kick him back down to line member. If you can play a game without bitching like a god drat pubbie then gtfo. I get that being FC can be stressful but a raging FC only lowers morale and make ppl not want to join. Ive been back less than two months and no matter what channel i go to on mumble, someone is bitching about him. And the number of ppl who says they wont join his fleets are proof that its a problem. There are thousands of nerds in this alliance, find FCs who wont sap morale
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Phlegmish posted:I haven't witnessed any bad FCs, although some of them need to work on their pronunciation and/or slow down a little. Especially since not all of us are native English speakers. A week or two ago I had one that would repeat each command 3-4, but most of the time I still was unable to understand what he was saying Im willing to bet that was Elo. He repeats his commands so fast that he mumbles them
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Oct 26, 2020 17:16
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LegionAreI posted:There's a lot of other FC's who might get annoyed or mad but they'll explain what to do next time. Did an Ares fleet last night and tunnel visioned on a hacker like a moron (with a few other people) when a bunch of other ships landed on grid. Got well-deserved poo poo for it, got told that a 20 mil hacker is not worth suiciding interceptors on, got told to reship, everything is good, just don't do it again. See, I swear at my corp when I run fleets when they gently caress up at the time. After we're done and on our way home or even docked back up we go over what could be done better to prevent it happening again. (Doesn't always work mind you) They know that I am very much in the zone and being Scottish swear at them a lot but also know that it's out of wanting them to come out on top. I remember doing a lot of John fleets when I was in SV, and gotta say I don't really miss them. Being able to make a fleet of 70 nerds all feel bad about themselves is a skill
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DGC773 posted:It wouldn't be a hell war if some loving didn't happen. And goodness knows PAPI hasn't been dtf yet.
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Dalael posted:Imho when it becomes clear that a FC wont stop raging, take away his role and kick him back down to line member. Yea, there was this one FC who's name I can't remember but I think it started with an S, who was very unironically "i'm very space important and you need to RESPECT ME!" I literally turned around after we burned 3 systems in a BS and docked. Dude was some insufferable dumbass.
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Ynglaur posted:And goodness knows PAPI hasn't been dtf yet. Because PAPI members like logging in and having instant fun content. PAPIs FCs don't ragefuck their respective comms or alliances (yet)
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DGC773 posted:Because PAPI members like logging in and having instant fun content. PAPIs FCs don't ragefuck their respective comms or alliances (yet) have you been in a PGL fleet? captainclaw fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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captainclaw posted:have you been an a PGL fleet? Nope. I doubt anyone in panfam has even heard PGL or Vily speak before. PAPI is just a random collection of alliances in Delve. They are all using their own comms. Panfam join panfam fleets, test join test fleets...etc.
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Oct 26, 2020 17:29
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Phlegmish posted:Yeah but right now I'm mining and that's super afk That being said, I'm not sure if this is true or just me, I have a superstition in my head that if my ship can target 5 things and I target 5 asteroids, the drones wont attack... if I target 4 and "leave space" for an additional target, my drones get on with things by themselves There is high probability I am making that up as I've never fancied putting it to the test.
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CainFortea posted:Yea, there was this one FC who's name I can't remember but I think it started with an S, who was very unironically "i'm very space important and you need to RESPECT ME!" I literally turned around after we burned 3 systems in a BS and docked. Dude was some insufferable dumbass. The number of people who think being FC makes them extra special bother me and I wish I had the guts to just pod them and deal with the consequence.
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Dalael posted:The number of people who think being FC makes them extra special bother me and I wish I had the guts to just pod them and deal with the consequence. Just stick ecm drones on them 
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re: drone preferences (accessed via the hamburger menu in the top left corner of your drones window) Aggressive: drones will automatically shoot anything that shoots you. Drones have to be launched before said thing shoots you or they won't attack it unless you tell them. Passive: drones will only shoot what you tell them to shoot. Focus fire: all drones will shoot the same target. If you don't have this enabled you will eventually see things like one lonely Acolyte II trying to kill a battleship by itself while its 4 brethren are chasing a frigate. Rats can and will shoot your drones - the trick to avoiding this was explained to me earlier in the thread, but basically just get your drones out as soon as you land on grid and the rats will only shoot you instead. This isn't much of an issue if you're just shooting rocks in a belt.
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Oct 26, 2020 17:45
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Goddamn, just kick the fucker. This is way too much drama for one person.
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Dalael posted:The number of people who think being FC makes them extra special bother me and I wish I had the guts to just pod them and deal with the consequence. you fly logi - withhold reps while they're primaried e: actually that's passive aggressive as gently caress, just tell them you don't have time for childish bullshit and bounce from their fleet. you're in waffe, you don't need paps anyway
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Jazzzzz posted:you fly logi - withhold reps while they're primaried 
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Dalael posted:The number of people who think being FC makes them extra special bother me and I wish I had the guts to just pod them and deal with the consequence. There are definitely enough of them that are as massive of a fuckup as the rest of us to balance it out though! See, highsec hellfleet, undocking in the wrong ship, not checking pods, etc. I definitely have a list of people I am careful about fleeting up on but there are enough that are fun and chill.
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There's a FC I flew with a few times lately but I keep forgetting to look up his name. Takes his time to undock and leave ppl time to form. Reminds ppl to check their clones and i swear to god has one of the most soothing voice on comms.
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All the FCs I have flown with since returning have been cool as poo poo and nice as hell to me while answering literally any stupid question. I haven’t gone on a John fleet but am unlikely to. I’ll just go gently caress around with the ASCEE guys. Now that I think about it, I think he was FC of bomberwaffe for the failed Keepstar fight and he was pretty chill except for one moment. He apologized and got us home safe. Hell a karmafleet person almost took us out and we laughed. Still, that doesn’t excuse the behavior today. Just apologize and move the gently caress on.
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Oct 26, 2020 17:53
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captainclaw posted:See, I swear at my corp when I run fleets when they gently caress up at the time. Sure, and swearing or a frustated shout is no problem, but an fc needs to leave opportunity to say “sorry, I hosed up“. With raging that door closes. Also, for Querious George: this is only with John, and seems to be focused on John’s personality. Before you report to your intel team that “goons fc’s are breaking down”, because they aint.
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Most if not all of the fleets that I've been on (and I've been in quite a few in the last month or so) have been pretty chill and good, and had a "well, that's goons" attitude to fuckups.
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Tekopo posted:Most if not all of the fleets that I've been on (and I've been in quite a few in the last month or so) have been pretty chill and good, and had a "well, that's goons" attitude to fuckups. Yup. I mean there's an assumption that goons are gonna gently caress up, and it makes things pretty chill. I mean that ares fleet last night hosed up a bit counting timers and we lost it, but FC took responsibility and it wasn't a big deal. Not really seeing any morale problems, being annoyed at one guy for being a douche isn't a morale problem really!
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I went on one of John Hartley's fleets the day after the first 14-hour Keepstar grind, and his FC technique of yelling at the entire fleet that they're disappointments while calling targets that are long dead is certainly a unique one. I'm now avoiding any pings that go out for his fleets. drat, getting shot by blues in a SUAS fleet years ago wasn't nearly as miserable.
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Dalael posted:The number of people who think being FC makes them extra special bother me and I wish I had the guts to just pod them and deal with the consequence. Reminds me of Makalu. He was a good dude, just super spergy at times. DGC773 posted:Nope. Shame on those that never witnessed coked-out Vily singing to his fleet about mittni stealing their titans. There was a soundboard somewhere PGL is pretty insufferable, and constantly blames his never ending string of fuckups on his fleet members. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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