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Koramei posted:Even the state portrait of the founder of the dynasty shows a wart over his eyebrow:
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There's a very big gap in quality btwn mike duncan and hardcore history tbf also I'm pretty sure for the WWI he might as well as just read out a loud "guns of august" lol
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Grevling posted:iIimagine having the german characters speak proto-germanic would be cool but would require a lot of coaching (and money. I mean, if you're already doing all that for the other guys, though?
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Dalael posted:I wouldn't say History of Byzantium is weaker, quite the opposite. I feel like he goes into a lot more details, talks a lot more about his sources, points of views at the time and so much more. He has a lot of interviews with authors and great discussions. This is entirely just personal preference, so take it with a grain of salt: -Duncan has a much better podcasting voice. Pierson does great research, and goes much further into depth, but he reads the material like a history TA, and I find myself zoning out a lot more. The quiet way he says Komnenos is burned into my brain. -By going so much more into depth, it really breaks up the narrative thrust of the podcast a lot more. I like the added depth, but I don’t like coming back to the main narrative after like 5 side episodes and not remembering what the hell is going on. -I feel like Pierson gets lost in the weeds a lot more than Duncan. The former provides more of a list of what happened, then this happened, then this happened, while the latter did a much better job summing up the impacts of a particular regime in a holistic way. -Along those same lines, IMO Duncan did a better job using storytelling tricks to keep the story engaging. Just little flourishes like “little did he know, that would be a really bad idea” or “problem solved, right? Wrong”. Sure it’s more informal, but I liked it, and it helped me get into the heads of those historical figures a little more easily. Idunno. It’s all personal preference, but overall, I’d recommend History of Rome to almost anyone. It’s very accessible and entertaining. I’d hesitate to recommend History of Byzantium unless someone’s very patient, a huge Rome nerd, or both.
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Halloween Jack posted:What were those flaps made from, anyway? Silk? Pretty sure it would have been horsehair. The fancy patterned ones might have had a silk coating? The wide-brimmed traditional Korean hats were all horsehair though, with a bamboo frame.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I've felt for a while that I want to see more period pieces or fantasy stories done with American accents because I get tired of everything going through british filters. The giants speak like American gangsters in Sprague de Camp & Pratt's The Roaring Trumpet.
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Power Khan posted:Same with Conan the Babarian in english. Schwarzenegger has a laughable styrian accent that makes him sound like a barking yokel. Unsurprisingly they completely overdubbed him in the german version, greatly improving the film. This reminds me of how Goku's Japanese voice is meant to sound like a mountain hick. Accurate English equivalent would be like, Appalachian.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This reminds me of how Goku's Japanese voice is meant to sound like a mountain hick. Accurate English equivalent would be like, Appalachian. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is unintentionally hilarious in Mandarin because none of the actors are native speakers, so it's like Hamlet where the main cast is Jean Claude Van Damme and Schwarzenegger, also sick sword fights. Also I'd watch that version of Hamlet.
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Don Gato posted:Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is unintentionally hilarious in Mandarin because none of the actors are native speakers, so it's like Hamlet where the main cast is Jean Claude Van Damme and Schwarzenegger, also sick sword fights. Also I'd watch that version of Hamlet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eont_yEGZs
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Grevling posted:iIimagine having the german characters speak proto-germanic would be cool but would require a lot of coaching (and money. There is a certain kind of diction that can be used to convey "old-timey" language, yeah. The trouble is that this style also has connotations of being somewhat stilted, elevated, and theatrical. Ironically it's the kind of style well-suited to a roman emperor holding a nice dramatic monologue, but it would feel overwrought for a couple rural Cherusci having a casual conversation among each other. You actually do have a few a actors occasionally slipping into a more theatrical diction, and that feels even more out of place than the overall modern speech. It seems like a somewhat awkward compromise. The artistic intent was presumably to make the Germanic characters as relatable as possible, while creating an intentional distance between audience and Romans through the language barrier. Having them speak an unintelligible proto-Germanic dialect certainly would've been more immersive, but it would also have run counter to that dynamic. 
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Power Khan posted:Same with Conan the Babarian in english. Schwarzenegger has a laughable styrian accent that makes him sound like a barking yokel. Unsurprisingly they completely overdubbed him in the german version, greatly improving the film. Well, wouldn't Conan sound like a yokel? He was from a small mountain village and was raised as a slave.
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PeterCat posted:Well, wouldn't Conan sound like a yokel? He was from a small mountain village and was raised as a slave. His dad sounds completely normal when he’s telling him about the riddle of steel. Conan’s just special
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Power Khan posted:Same with Conan the Babarian in english. Schwarzenegger has a laughable styrian accent that makes him sound like a barking yokel. Unsurprisingly they completely overdubbed him in the german version, greatly improving the film. Arnold being ridiculous is the best part of that movie! His commentary track is *amazing.* "I get laid a lot in this movie"
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That's one of the reasons I'm glad English is my second language. In Alexander for example I think it's cool that the Macedonians all sound Irish and sort of makes sense, but for English speakers it's apparently jarring. Similarly with movies set in the middle ages of viking period, although I said earlier that there's a language convention for those it's not really ever followed, and it's jarring to hear the actors speak because they either sound like the local equivalent of rich frat boys or speak a dialect that you associate with other things, so it becomes jarring no matter what.
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skasion posted:His dad sounds completely normal when he’s telling him about the riddle of steel. Conan’s just special I wonder if this deleted scene is a subtle joke on Arnold's rural accent. https://youtu.be/kayFrIR-Qfw
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Grevling posted:That's one of the reasons I'm glad English is my second language. In Alexander for example I think it's cool that the Macedonians all sound Irish and sort of makes sense, but for English speakers it's apparently jarring. I think ppl care way too much about language in movies and what accents ppl have. It reminds me of mouthbreathers who will hate a show because they see an anacronistic item that 99% of ppl will never know about, or those who hates perfectly good sci fi because there's no sound in space.
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PeterCat posted:I wonder if this deleted scene is a subtle joke on Arnold's rural accent. lmao
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Don Gato posted:Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is unintentionally hilarious in Mandarin because none of the actors are native speakers, so it's like Hamlet where the main cast is Jean Claude Van Damme and Schwarzenegger, also sick sword fights. Also I'd watch that version of Hamlet. Zhang Ziyi is from Beijing 
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Don Gato posted:Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is unintentionally hilarious in Mandarin because none of the actors are native speakers, so it's like Hamlet where the main cast is Jean Claude Van Damme and Schwarzenegger, also sick sword fights. Also I'd watch that version of Hamlet. Yeah, my Mandarin is terrible but even I can tell sometimes when people aren't native speakers and are real bad at it. BD Wong in Mr Robot for example. Great actor playing a great part, but his Mandarin is as bad as mine.
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Grevling posted:That's one of the reasons I'm glad English is my second language. In Alexander for example I think it's cool that the Macedonians all sound Irish and sort of makes sense, but for English speakers it's apparently jarring. I still have no loving idea about what accent Angelina Jolie was trying to speak with.
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Alhazred posted:I still have no loving idea about what accent Angelina Jolie was trying to speak with. All of them and none of them at the same time
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Dalael posted:All of them and none of them at the same time Known as the "Aiden Gillian as Petyr Baelish" technique.
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Fader Movitz posted:Netflix released a series called Barbaren about Arminius and Teutoburgen. It's pretty good and the Romans don't speak posh English, they speak classical Latin with the hard C and V as W. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToTx8pRUeW0
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Arnold being ridiculous is the best part of that movie! There's a moment where he questions an entire plot thread. "Why didn't they just resurrect her like they resurrected me?"
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Is it the first or second movie where they realize during the commentary that there's a dude loving a goat in the background?
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Well I'm sure I'm on some sort of list for searching for this, but it was from Conan the Barbarian and it was a llama. Tent on the left. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tOWoDVQLU Kylaer posted:Known as the "Aiden Gillian as Petyr Baelish" technique. This works though because iirc the character grew up poor and has consciously changed his accent to be more upper class.
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Arnolds accent is a happy accident because in Conan it sounds to an English speaker it makes him kind of sound like the stereotypical cave-man/Tarzan who no speak good, and In Terminator 1 it added to the effect of him being a robot that wasn't quite pulling off being a person. As his career exploded he still has his accent but it's changed into a "normal" accent.
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Hercules in New York is the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUZect_pgY
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Mr. Nice! posted:Hercules in New York is the best. "I am kheyrkooleyes"
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Mr. Nice! posted:Hercules in New York is the best. I just watched it for the first time last weekend and it's something else that's for sure.
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Dalael posted:those who hates perfectly good sci fi because there's no sound in space.
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lurker2006 posted:It's less that I hate the inaccuracy and more that I feel sounds are a contrivance that actually reduce the dramatic effect more often than not. not every space explosion has to involve creeping horror at a distance
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Having finished watching Barbarians, it seems the biggest gripe people have about it is language and stirrups. Which lead me to wonder... Was there really no stirrups in the ancient world? It seems like such an obvious invention...
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How historically accurate is the norwegian show Norsemen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi8e4M3Us9A
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Dalael posted:Having finished watching Barbarians, it seems the biggest gripe people have about it is language and stirrups. Which lead me to wonder... Depends where you are. Stirrups are invented in the 1st century BC (it's not entirely clear where, but India and China first apparently), but aren't a thing in Europe until the 7th century or so. It's also not entirely obvious, if you don't have a correctly designed saddle putting a bunch of weight into stirrups will gently caress your horse up. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Hercules in New York is the best. Back in law school a friend and I tried to turn "every time we can't understand what Arnold says" into a drinking game I don't really remember much past the Bear
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