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Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

Pasketti posted:

he went out of business not for unsanitary reasons but because all the other Chinese restaurants in town ripped off his recipe and stole his business so he had to go back to China

this checks out at least

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strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

The Oregon Museum of Science has currently borrowed artifacts to create an exhibit on Ghengis Khan and the Mongol Empire. I enjoyed it.




I also learned that Arghun Khan wrote to King Philip of France in 1289 and proposed that they conquer Jerusalem together. That's not an alternate history I had ever imagined.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

The Oregon Museum of Science has currently borrowed artifacts to create an exhibit on Ghengis Khan and the Mongol Empire. I enjoyed it.




I also learned that Arghun Khan wrote to King Philip of France in 1289 and proposed that they conquer Jerusalem together. That's not an alternate history I had ever imagined.

Extremely pro displays

Went to the Asian museum in SF at the beginning of the year and it was amazing and very in depth but nothing like that

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

I also learned that Arghun Khan wrote to King Philip of France in 1289 and proposed that they conquer Jerusalem together. That's not an alternate history I had ever imagined.

sid meier's civilization is just art imitating life

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

The Oregon Museum of Science has currently borrowed artifacts to create an exhibit on Ghengis Khan and the Mongol Empire. I enjoyed it.




I also learned that Arghun Khan wrote to King Philip of France in 1289 and proposed that they conquer Jerusalem together. That's not an alternate history I had ever imagined.

Did the CCP chuck a fit about this exhibit like they did re: the one in France?

Or did this museum agree to the CCP's demands so they could exhibit all the cool poo poo?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I presume that's why they used a scribble for an "I' in Genghis Kahn's name.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Weka posted:

I presume that's why they used a scribble for an "I' in Genghis Kahn's name.

pretty sure that's mongol script

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

BrigadierSensible posted:

Did the CCP chuck a fit about this exhibit like they did re: the one in France?

Or did this museum agree to the CCP's demands so they could exhibit all the cool poo poo?
They used terms like "Ghengis Khan", "Mongol Empire" and specifically detailed how he conquered China and has millions of descendants in Asia. They have one Mongolian artist at a time on shift throat singing, playing music, or doing art/calligraphy too. They didn't have any of the revisions the CCP Bureau of Cultural Heritage demanded of the French.

I think the difference is that the French exhibit relied on artifacts from Inner Mongolia so China was able to pressure them with pre-conditions. The one in Oregon bypassed China entirely and sourced their items from Russia and the nation of Mongolia so the CCP had no say in the matter.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Honestly surprised that China never annexed Mongolia. Surely in 5000 years. . .

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

I also learned that Arghun Khan wrote to King Philip of France in 1289 and proposed that they conquer Jerusalem together. That's not an alternate history I had ever imagined.

I mean Mongols = Prester John was a pretty popular theory of sorts in Latin Europe at the time. I believe there were also embassies going the other way to attempt to negotiate an anti-Muslim/Mamluk alliance to launch a joint crusade/Mongol attack, but that most of this came to nothign for logistical reasons or because the embassies didn't make it to their destination.

Blistex posted:

Honestly surprised that China never annexed Mongolia. Surely in 5000 years. . .

China controls a significant portion of what used to be Mongolia and other territory formerly populated by related Mongolian, Tungusic and Turkic peoples, as a result of centuries of moving frontiers, imperial conquest, colonization and at times outright genocide, due to its hostile conditions, native resistance and poverty what is now Mongolia never really fell under direct Chinese control, partly because the rewards likely fell far short of the costs (unlike the areas populated by the Uyghurs and others up towards the Tarim Basin and Central Asia, which sit along and control vital trade routes, including, in pre-modern times, China's premier source of warhorses).

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Oct 29, 2020

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Randarkman posted:

I mean Mongols = Prester John was a pretty popular theory of sorts in Latin Europe at the time. I believe there were also embassies going the other way to attempt to negotiate an anti-Muslim/Mamluk alliance to launch a joint crusade/Mongol attack, but that most of this came to nothign for logistical reasons or because the embassies didn't make it to their destination.

It did come up, partly out of not knowing but there were a lot of Nestorian Christians among the Mongols.

Also the Roman Empire allied themselves with the Mongols to avoid getting owned. This involved marriages, so at one point the same (extended) royal family sat on both the Chinese and Roman imperial thrones.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Grand Fromage posted:

Also the Roman Empire allied themselves with the Mongols to avoid getting owned. This involved marriages, so at one point the same (extended) royal family sat on both the Chinese and Roman imperial thrones.

So you're saying Italy has always been a part of China?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Pham Nuwen posted:

So you're saying Italy has always been a part of China?

Pretty sure the relevant time frame is after Italy was no longer Roman.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Mr. Nice! posted:

Pretty sure the relevant time frame is after Italy was no longer Roman.

you are assuming that rome wasn't chinese, outlander

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Mr. Nice! posted:

Pretty sure the relevant time frame is after Italy was no longer Roman.

Please stop hurting the feelings of the Chinese people

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Tell them that makes China the 4th Rome and they will definitely refuse.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Makes a lot of sense. Since we know that the origin of all language is of course Korean, this must have been how the gift of speech spread so far west. Crazy to think we'd all still be grunting like cavemen if it weren't for the famous Chinese general Genghis Khan's journey west.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
koren has four seasons you know.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

korea has more lakes than anywhere in the world

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
No Korean history is complete without mentioning the Hyperwar.

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

the republic of korea’s murders and purges backed by the us and japan made kim il sung look like a pacifist, but I thought this thread was about the people’s republic of china (#1)

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vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

we also discuss tributary states

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



:siren: TRASH OPS IS OFFICALLY BANNED FROM THE CHINA THREAD :siren:

Feel free to submit reports and/or PM me if he shows his obnoxious rear end in the thread again. I'm tired of repeatedly probing him.

K bye

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Jeoh posted:

korea has more lakes than anywhere in the world

More than Canada's 5 for sure.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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extra row of teeth posted:

:siren: TRASH OPS IS OFFICALLY BANNED FROM THE CHINA THREAD :siren:

Feel free to submit reports and/or PM me if he shows his obnoxious rear end in the thread again. I'm tired of repeatedly probing him.

K bye

Thank you for your service

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

extra row of teeth posted:

:siren: TRASH OPS IS OFFICALLY BANNED FROM THE CHINA THREAD :siren:

Feel free to submit reports and/or PM me if he shows his obnoxious rear end in the thread again. I'm tired of repeatedly probing him.

K bye

Cool, there will be others

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

extra row of teeth posted:

:siren: TRASH OPS IS OFFICALLY BANNED FROM THE CHINA THREAD :siren:

Feel free to submit reports and/or PM me if he shows his obnoxious rear end in the thread again. I'm tired of repeatedly probing him.

K bye

:thumbsup:

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
plz make sure all probe lengths contain the number 4 itt

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGdekuhBaEI

An heir to Pangzai emerges

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


That guy owns and that video is amazing.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
my dad is turbofuck obsessed w this mukbang-like serial dealio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_Q5G-uxi0

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Best China strikes again (follow the link for a whole thread of costumes)

https://twitter.com/tony_zy/status/1322385304041521152

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Porfiriato posted:

Best China strikes again (follow the link for a whole thread of costumes)

https://twitter.com/tony_zy/status/1322385304041521152

Taiwan loving Number One

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Porfiriato posted:

Best China strikes again (follow the link for a whole thread of costumes)

https://twitter.com/tony_zy/status/1322385304041521152

isn't this stolen from japan (which is incredibly on-brand for taiwan)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/05/understated-halloween-japan-embraces-low-key-cosplay

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
haha lol at "person out and about who forgot to close their bag" in the background there

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
JFC it's been an ordeal to get my mother in law back to China. She's been here since Dec 26th, and if it doesn't happen today, it's likely going to be 2021 before she makes it home.

Air Canada always has been, and always will be a loving disgrace, but they're the only disgrace in town for us now.

Fingers crossed.

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Does Mother in law really have to go back?

Dont you like having her around?

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Blistex posted:

JFC it's been an ordeal to get my mother in law back to China. She's been here since Dec 26th, and if it doesn't happen today, it's likely going to be 2021 before she makes it home.

Air Canada always has been, and always will be a loving disgrace, but they're the only disgrace in town for us now.

Fingers crossed.

Pretty sure Air Canada's motto is "We're not happy unless you're not happy."

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Ups_rail posted:

Does Mother in law really have to go back?

Dont you like having her around?

She's been here for nearly a year instead of to he planned two months. She misses her husband and family, and it's just been too long.

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therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
LOL if my mother in law lived with us for a year I would move out.

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