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HelloSailorSign posted:.....I did not realize there was a difference. That's bait.
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Alec Eiffel posted:I am in Claremont (lol) and it’s a lil nasty here I was at PC in 2003 when the Grand Prix/Pauda fire happened and it was absolutely insane. Looking back I can't believe they kept everyone on campus for that. Hope this current situation isn't as bad as that was. I remember flying back down from fall break heading into Ontario and just looking down from the plane and seeing the entire mountain completely on fire. Scary poo poo. Hope it's not as bad right now as it was then!
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https://mobile.twitter.com/KSBY/status/1321488898804113409 Lol it wasn't windy enough to turn off the power, but it started a fire anyway. Good job, SoCal Edison!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Once again I'm amazed at how SDG&E continues to be the
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Once again I'm amazed at how SDG&E continues to be the They've been spending a fortune burying lines, replacing equipment, and adding a bunch of fancy high voltage circuit breakers to deenergize lines when they break (at least according to the articles their PR department have been planting the press.) I'm 3/4 expecting to hear news of a shareholder coup to oust the leadership over how much money they're frittering away on safety instead of stock buybacks.
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Alec Eiffel posted:I am in Claremont (lol) and its a lil nasty here You live like, 10 miles away from me. Sup bad-air-quality friend.
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poo poo people talking about San Diego have me missing Kiko's fish taco truck. loving loved that truck.
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Michigan might be lovely, but I never made 3 go-bags just in case my place burnt down in the middle of the night due to some CHUD shooting fireworks next to a dry hill in the middle of October.
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Weembles posted:They've been spending a fortune burying lines, replacing equipment, and adding a bunch of fancy high voltage circuit breakers to deenergize lines when they break (at least according to the articles their PR department have been planting the press.) They stopped disconnect people who didn't pay their bills in March because of COVID and as far as I can tell they haven't rescinded that policy yet.
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Still Dismal posted:I’m likely voting no in19. Increasing the tax base is good, but giving yet another giveaway to boomer homeowners is bad. And the only way it really increases tax rates is on the heirs if they don’t live in the place. So they’d pay fair taxes if they rented out the place, but not if they lived in it, and older homeowners get transfer their absurdly low rates elsewhere. On the other hand: Everyone over 55 would be able to transfer their low property tax rate to larger and larger homes. The class of "homeowners" is, on average, less well-off than the class of "families with five houses". But the class of "homeowners" is also, generally speaking, not in desperate need of a tax break. Which is what this is. A tax break to help people who already own homes buy larger homes. I understand why a lot of people have already voted based on the idea that it's flawed, but a net good for society. But I sort of see "heirs renting their inheritance!" as being similar to "help fire victims!" in that it is designed to serve as a distractor to conceal the true purpose. EDIT: Sorry if this seems insensitive given all the SoCal fire talk; I hadn't refreshed the page. And: Go Sagehens! Dave47 fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Still Dismal posted:I’m likely voting no in19. Increasing the tax base is good, but giving yet another giveaway to boomer homeowners is bad. And the only way it really increases tax rates is on the heirs if they don’t live in the place. So they’d pay fair taxes if they rented out the place, but not if they lived in it, and older homeowners get transfer their absurdly low rates elsewhere. The idea, I guess, is that a lot of these state-sponsored aristocrats aren't just passing down single homes, but entire blocks of rental properties. So yeah, the "wealthy" family with the $2 million home originally purchased for $500k will overall see a gain from Prop 19 via new transfer rights, but the truly wealthy family that owns three houses and eight condos with a total value of $20 million will see a big tax increase... just as soon as the original patriarch finally dies and passes down the properties. So this breaks up (well, eventually, partially breaks up) some of the biggest, worst offenders, who are basically state-subsidized barons or dukes at this point.
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Vox Nihili posted:The idea, I guess, is that a lot of these state-sponsored aristocrats aren't just passing down single homes, but entire blocks of rental properties. So yeah, the "wealthy" family with the $2 million home originally purchased for $500k will overall see a gain from Prop 19 via new transfer rights, but the truly wealthy family that owns three houses and eight condos with a total value of $20 million will see a big tax increase... just as soon as the original patriarch finally dies and passes down the properties. So this breaks up (well, eventually, partially breaks up) some of the biggest, worst offenders, who are basically state-subsidized barons or dukes at this point. People own that much real estate have almost certainly moved their rental properties into an LLC. Does 19 cover corporate holdings or only personal ones?
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Weembles posted:People own that much real estate have almost certainly moved their rental properties into an LLC. Does 19 cover corporate holdings or only personal ones? I think prop 15 is the one that covers corporate holdings
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HelloSailorSign posted:poo poo people talking about San Diego have me missing Kiko's fish taco truck. I think the use of a comma here could be very important
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The Glumslinger posted:I think prop 15 is the one that covers corporate holdings Nah Prop 15 is applicable only to commercial and industrial property (and exempts ~small businesses~ and our precious ag). Incorporation might actually let you circumvent prop 19, I don't know enough to speak definitively on that.
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Vox Nihili posted:Nah Prop 15 is applicable only to commercial and industrial property (and exempts ~small businesses~ and our precious ag). Incorporation might actually let you circumvent prop 19, I don't know enough to speak definitively on that. Why are campaign ads that are just 100% false legal? "THIS WILL HURT SMALL BUSINESS, WE CANT AFFORD THIS!!!!!"
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Why are campaign ads that are just 100% false legal? "THIS WILL HURT SMALL BUSINESS, WE CANT AFFORD THIS!!!!!"
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Why are campaign ads that are just 100% false legal? "THIS WILL HURT SMALL BUSINESS, WE CANT AFFORD THIS!!!!!" it'll all get sorted out in the ~marketplace of ideas~ since as we all know ideal free markets like that are fair and just and never fail
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Once again I'm amazed at how SDG&E continues to be the sorry but that's SMUD
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i'm a bit annoyed that SMUD doesn't provide natural gas service, so PG&E still gets a few of my dollars for our hookup but yeah SMUD owns, they sent us a reminder letter this summer about emergency brownouts and how they've never had to do them lol also they have an online shop where you can buy all kindsa energy saving things for cheap, we got a big box of LED bulbs
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:also they have an online shop where you can buy all kindsa energy saving things for cheap, we got a big box of LED bulbs I didn't know this, thanks!
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Xaris posted:sorry but that's SMUD (At least, it was when I lived there, mumblemumble years ago)
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Xaris posted:sorry but that's SMUD Roseville Utilities, my friend. SMUD a close second though. I had them when I lived in Folsom.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Michigan might be lovely, but I never made 3 go-bags just in case my place burnt down in the middle of the night due to some CHUD shooting fireworks next to a dry hill in the middle of October. Well, I've lived in hollywood my whole life and only packed one go bag, and that was due the 92 riots.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:but yeah SMUD owns, they sent us a reminder letter this summer about emergency brownouts and how they've never had to do them lol
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eSporks posted:That's BS. They did them every year a decade ago. SMUD isn't part of the CAISO, who is the org responsible for ordering the brownouts/rolling blackouts their letter sounded like they were poking fun at PG&E, but yeah idk if they voluntarily participated in them back in 2001
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Aeka 2.0 posted:RPU represent! (Riverside) Yup. No brownouts this summer, and still much lower rates than SoCal Edison.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:SMUD isn't part of the CAISO, who is the org responsible for ordering the brownouts/rolling blackouts https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article244984930.html quote:SMUD spokesman Chris Capra said the utility’s last rolling blackout was in 2000 — back when it was still aligned with ISO and before forming its own balancing authority in 2003, now known as BANC.
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Garcetti should probably get his head checked, I think his mom dropped him too many times as a baby https://twitter.com/MayorOfLA/status/1322329594045685761?s=19
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Dave47 posted:This is a really good point, and is a large part of why I'm leaning heavily towards voting "no" on 19. I understand how deeply offensive the idea of someone inheriting an "extra" house with an insanely low property tax rate. Except: How many families in California really own more houses than they have children? Like, parents with two children and five(!) homes can escape any inheritance tax under Prop. 19 if grandchildren come into the mix. I don't think it's going to be a big windfall for local governments. Vote yes on 19.
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adoration for none posted:Garcetti should probably get his head checked, I think his mom dropped him too many times as a baby Lol peak liberalism
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We live in hellworld. https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1322401762070835201?s=20
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adoration for none posted:Garcetti should probably get his head checked, I think his mom dropped him too many times as a baby https://twitter.com/LANewsTime/status/1322393882882052096
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adoration for none posted:Garcetti should probably get his head checked, I think his mom dropped him too many times as a baby No loving way.
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Smythe posted:Well, I've lived in hollywood my whole life and only packed one go bag, and that was due the 92 riots. Well, I packed one go bag per family member living with me. 
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props, folks, we love them don't we https://twitter.com/CA_120/status/1320458600024690688
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Doc Hawkins posted:props, folks, we love them don't we rich people being able to pipe a ceaseless stream of lies into peoples ears is a key sign of a healthy democracy
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Smythe posted:Well, I've lived in hollywood my whole life and only packed one go bag, and that was due the 92 riots. OLD
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