Jazerus posted:

y'all ever consider starting over? sort of a "britain 2.0" kind of thing?

CredulousAtBest posted:

gotta say i never imagined you guys just" turn over, do the expose your bellies in submission thing"

loving pathetic

i had better opinions of you then that and now i feel like a fool

strong opposition you are. loving cretins

CredulousAtBest posted:

gotta say i never imagined you guys just" turn over, do the expose your bellies in submission thing"

loving pathetic

i had better opinions of you then that and now i feel like a fool

strong opposition you are. loving cretins

Regarde Aduck posted:

90s Cringe Rock posted:

the United Kingdom of Ireland and Northern Great Britain

Maximo Roboto posted:

1971 posted:

-Things aren't going particularly well in Great Britain, either. Distracted by the mounting crisis in France in early March, Prime Minister Tony Benn is a step behind his wife Margaret (nee Robbins) as they go to the cinema to catch the latest of George Lazenby's Shakespearean plays updated for a modern audience.

(He stars opposite Diana Rigg in "Romeo and Juliet", with the setting changed to the gritty streets of exotic Cardiff.) It's a surprisingly on-topic choice for a film; it's a Welsh nationalist who throws the grenade that kills Peggy Benn quite spectacularly in front of her husband as they leave the theater.

Walter Walker has never liked Tony Benn much, but an assault on English womanhood, especially the murder of a highly-placed lady, is more than he can take. As the Prime Minister closets himself through the rest of March, blood runs in the streets of nearly every city in Wales, and British soldiers find themselves firing on British people.

As such things do, it spreads, and the Prime Minister rouses himself enough to put the commanders of peacekeeping forces in Scotland and Northern Ireland under the overall control of General Walker. It's a dark and unfortunate time, especially after Prime Minister Benn reemerges and refuses to speak of the matter publically.

Several hundred are dead in both sides from street fighting and snipers, and with the car bomb death of the Mayor of Edinburgh on May 3, it's clear it's only going to get worse...

-In the end, the shadow of Oliver Cromwell falls a long, long way. It's clear to keen observers in the summer and early fall of 1971 that something is going on with the military, what with the sudden occupation of elements of British telecommunications and transportation by various Army and Navy units in turn between July and October. However, paranoia on both sides coupled with tight media control by the state ensures that rumors of General Walker flying to London to confer with the Queen, Anthony Parsons' near-simultaneous conferences with the Naval High Command, and then Tony Benn's personal visit to Walker's Cardiff headquarters remains just that, only rumors.

In the end, the British public knows only a few things for sure. General Walter Walker accepts command of the British garrison occupying the Socotra islands off the coast of unhappy Aden on September 15, a variety of particularly aggressive Conservative backbenchers resign, and a few dozen elite soldiers of the Army and Navy are reported killed by friendly fire in exercises off the Orkneys. And finally, after a great deal of debate, Queen Elizabeth II announces that she will abdicate the throne in favor of her son Andrew on the 20th anniversary of her accession, February 6, 1972.

The referenda in Scotland, Wales, and England will go on, as Walker's successors begin the slow task of patching up relations between the British Army and men and women who may not be Britons anymore come December. [1]

-A variety of factors come together on December 1, 1971 to produce the results of the Kingdom Vote. The Welsh vote for confederation surprises no one beyond the most extreme Unionists and Liberationists; very little can overcome the centuries of relatively peaceful coexistence between England and Wales, but there is still the very recent memories of British troops firing on rioting Welsh crowds to consider.

Confederation means Britain and Wales will keep a common currency and have no real trade barriers between them. Too, Cardiff and London will maintain a unified foriegn policy, with Wales at least theoretically following the larger nation's lead. Finally, they agree to cooperate on criminal matters, with both signing broad mutual extradition treaties.

But that's about it; Wales will have its own army, own police force, their own code of laws, and they will maintain their own Parliment and Prime Minister. If the vote had happened a few months later, they might have gone for keeping things as they were, as it is, the interim Welsh government quietly persuades London to keep the Royal Navy bases in Wales so thousands don't lose their jobs.

Scotland's vote to stay in the United Kingdom is rather unsurprising, the circumstances of the last few years are only enough to make it a close vote indeed. (Nationalists will charge voter fraud for decades to come, and while there were certainly some irregularities on the tallies from Aberdeen, they don't seem to be enough to account for that extra seven hundred and thirty-five votes.) Benn's offer to encourage and protect Scottish economic and cultural practices is enough to overcome any lingering reservations about Great Britain. (A similiar offer wasn't enough for Wales.)

And then the English vote tally comes in. By a margin of 37% to 35% to 28%, the people of England vote for independance from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This was not particularly expected.

LONDON

"...Prince Edward declined to comment on rumors that he would accept the English Crown upon her independence from the United Kingdom on March the first of next year, calling speculation on the matter "premature." In a related story, Prime Minister Benn confirmed statements made by Home Secretary Castle that he would continue to serve as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and England until the interim elections scheduled for the beginning of April, blasting Conservative members who called for new elections as "traitors and cowards who seek to stir a revival of the disorders and bloodshed of the last few years.", pointing to Unionist riots in the Midlands as an example of the Conservative future. Opposition leader Maudling replied with a blast on Labour's "dissolution of Great Britain and dissolution of British democracy", promising to hold a new referendum upon the formation of a Conservative government."

Jazerus posted:

y'all ever consider starting over? sort of a "britain 2.0" kind of thing?

CredulousAtBest posted:

gotta say i never imagined you guys just" turn over, do the expose your bellies in submission thing"

loving pathetic

i had better opinions of you then that and now i feel like a fool

strong opposition you are. loving cretins

i say swears online posted:

Did Labour change their leadership election rules or does it still make a radical victory easier?

Jazerus posted:

y'all ever consider starting over? sort of a "britain 2.0" kind of thing?

Jarf posted:

Northumbria independence! ✊

bedpan posted:

lol that even D&D got mad at therattle for peddling the nazi corbyn crap

Kerbtree posted:

link please, I need a spite-me-up.

bedpan posted:

lol that even D&D got mad at therattle for peddling the nazi corbyn crap

90s Cringe Rock posted:

the United Kingdom of Ireland and Northern Great Britain

Communist Thoughts posted:

the UK dnd thread is, if anything, more aggressively left wing than this one

fatninja187 posted:

Bit of a rant, but i genuinely despise these people, watching the PM conference now and i just wish i had scanner powers so i could make their loving heads explode.

I wish Corbyn was PM, i know he he lacked the killer instinct to purge the blairites but i just want a PM who has some humanity is that too much to ask. But these loving Etonian ghouls who just do not give a gently caress about anyone or anything other than collecting rent and selling guns are just ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i loving hate them!

Sorry i just needed to vent

This country is hosed it really really is, growing up i never thought i would see the country fall apart, but i doubt Britain will exist in 10 years it will have broken up, these loving oxbridge cunts have utterly destroyed any future we might have and they will get away with it.

But don't worry we will have another 30 years of jolly old Ian loving Hislop and jolly old HIGNFY with lots of jolly old witty loving banter.

I'm trying to lol but it's so loving hard

Communist Thoughts posted:

the UK dnd thread is, if anything, more aggressively left wing than this one

biglads posted:

There's the *crack*

Sit back and enjoy the *ping*

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1322646591010971649?s=20

Communist Thoughts posted:

the UK dnd thread is, if anything, more aggressively left wing than this one

Tulip posted:

Holy poo poo, they're really just gonna sell British people's lives for American profits huh.

Thom12255 posted:

$200 isn't even a lot for this kind of thing lol

Ardennes posted:

So what are the chances the UK actually gets a left-wing party?