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Hi all, beyond directly helping people in my own community when they need it, what's the best trans charity to set up a regular donation to with what used to be my party membership fees?
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Oct 30, 2020 21:23
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The Libearian posted:Hi all, beyond directly helping people in my own community when they need it, what's the best trans charity to set up a regular donation to with what used to be my party membership fees? Mermaids are great and do good work imo. And y'know each time you donate to them Linehan bursts a braincell or something so it's worth it for that effect too.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:29
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Gonzo McFee posted:Lol no that's real, she's a z list comedy actress and noted bully. Like the only person who was on Big Train and wasn't offered a part in any Simon Pegg films. Her husband ate potpourri in a restaurant and it made the papers. Um actually I think you’ll find he ate a hand towel after staff had poured hot water on it to inflate it. Literally something happens in the comedy film Spy, but for real.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:45
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jabby posted:I don't think reigniting the row is going to improve his reputation. Everybody who is going to believe the complaints were politically motivated already believes that. All the arguments have been made. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was institutionally racist but I believe it has/had a problem with AS (and probably other forms of racism). But there are many people who refuse to acknowledge that altogether, and that makes finding common ground around this issue very hard. (As you say, all the arguments have been made on both sides). I completely agree that there were better ways of rebuttal for him - I just don't think he's a particularly good politician. A better politician, while not necessarily believing that AS was an issue, would have recognised that other people thought it was an issue and acted accordingly. McDonnell either recognised the problem earlier or was astute enough to pretend that there was a problem and that the perception needed addressing - it feels like among the last person to actually acknowledge it was JC. I found that very upsetting. Even the leaked report acknowledges that it was a real problem.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:46
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It seems kind of wild to say Corbyn misspoke or said the wrong thing when he was stating something the ECHR report specifically suggested be considered valid criticism (the scale of antisemitism in Labour).
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Oct 30, 2020 21:55
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While in addition to your run of the mill racists you do get a particular variety of left antisemitism, I genuinely believe that in 99% of cases this is dumb but well intentioned people using very problematic and lazy terminology when they describe Israel (i.e by referring to 'Jewish interests' or whatever when they mean 'Israeli interests'). This is really bad obviously, but it's directly enabled by the mainstream acceptability of zionists conflating the two as well. Conflating 'Israel' and 'Jews' is entirely fine unless you're on the left, and that influences discourse in a really toxic way.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:59
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therattle posted:I wouldn't go so far as to say it was institutionally racist The demographic of MPs doesn't represent the population. We've never had a female or ethnic minority leader. A MP boasted about telling a black MP to "gently caress off". Party staffers shared racist abuse of MPs in their WhatsApp groups. Dawn Butler says party staffers were hostile to her because she's black. Pretty much every institution in the UK is racist, Labour is no exception.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:02
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jabby posted:The demographic of MPs doesn't represent the population. We've never had a female or ethnic minority leader. A MP boasted about telling a black MP to "gently caress off". Party staffers shared racist abuse of MPs in their WhatsApp groups. Dawn Butler says party staffers were hostile to her because she's black. yep its loving depressing
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Oct 30, 2020 22:05
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https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1322065779874037761?s=19
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Oct 30, 2020 22:07
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ThomasPaine posted:While in addition to your run of the mill racists you do get a particular variety of left antisemitism, I genuinely believe that in 99% of cases this is dumb but well intentioned people using very problematic and lazy terminology when they describe Israel (i.e by referring to 'Jewish interests' or whatever when they mean 'Israeli interests'). This is really bad obviously, but it's directly enabled by the mainstream acceptability of zionists conflating the two as well. Conflating 'Israel' and 'Jews' is entirely fine unless you're on the left, and that influences discourse in a really toxic way. trump regularly tells american jews that their home is israel and gets no criticism
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Oct 30, 2020 22:12
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God, Rory Stewart was an odd fellow wasn't he?
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Oct 30, 2020 22:13
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Jose posted:trump regularly tells american jews that their home is israel and gets no criticism I know! It's loving ridiculous.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:23
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sebzilla posted:God, Rory Stewart was an odd fellow wasn't he? this is still one of my favourite moments EVER  e: it gets sadder though casue googling for that i found him just being genuinely racist the UKs issues with black people are loving gross and bringing it up sets off some kind of allergic reaction
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Oct 30, 2020 22:35
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sebzilla posted:God, Rory Stewart was an odd fellow wasn't he? Former head of le cercle and current head of it is the undersecretary for business
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Oct 30, 2020 22:43
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Jose posted:trump regularly tells american jews that their home is israel and gets no criticism He also says that Jews who don't vote for him are disloyal to Israel and it's somehow fine.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:59
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Noxville posted:Twitter is a great place for making and reading jokes. And calling Tories cunts, I guess. Twitter must be really horrible if you take engaging with it seriously at all but it's no worse than any other social media if you want to just Post and have fun. It's really good to make multiple accounts on too. Follow a few people from X group, engage a bit just repeating whatever their Correct opinion is and it can be really eye opening people just slide into your DMs with the grimmest/most ridiculous poo poo. I'd be a great MI5 cyber snoop tbh it's legit fun to log in each morning like 'am I a Hindu nationalist today? Maybe alt-right? Remainiac?'
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Oct 30, 2020 23:10
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Vitamin P posted:tbh it's legit fun to log in each morning like 'am I a Hindu nationalist today? Maybe alt-right? Remainiac?' ...UKMT poster?
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Oct 30, 2020 23:31
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https://twitter.com/fetzert/status/1322078576133525504?s=20 Going to say that Rishi's odds of being PM seem to be declining somewhat.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:35
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jabby posted:The demographic of MPs doesn't represent the population. We've never had a female or ethnic minority leader. A MP boasted about telling a black MP to "gently caress off". Party staffers shared racist abuse of MPs in their WhatsApp groups. Dawn Butler says party staffers were hostile to her because she's black. Fair enough. Jose posted:trump regularly tells american jews that their home is israel and gets no criticism Not true. This was the first google result. https://www.businessinsider.com/american-jews-condemn-trump-for-saying-israel-is-your-country-2020-9 Gonzo McFee posted:He also says that Jews who don't vote for him are disloyal to Israel and it's somehow fine. Also not true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b7ce_story.html Plenty of results saying the same thing. It’s almost as if Jews call out antisemitism when they see it, and not only in the Labour Party because it’s “politically convenient”. Anyway, it’s not like Trump is held up to be a paragon of virtue and a dedicated anti-racism campaigner. One would expect nothing less than this poo poo from him. therattle fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Oct 30, 2020 23:36
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/fetzert/status/1322078576133525504?s=20 this is the kind of thing tories love though, proper blitz spirit
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Oct 30, 2020 23:38
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jabby posted:He wasn't doorstepped, it was a prepared statement. A statement prepared because the first thing that was going to happen was journalists asking him for his reaction. 'No comment' wasn't an option. Not mentioning that there was a smear campaign would also have been taken as an admission of guilt. I'm glad he told the truth.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:44
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feedmegin posted:...UKMT poster? A year or two ago screenshots from UKMT would show up intermittently on #FBPE twitter, it was always some Spitting Image-level post of someone epically owning Michael Gove or whatever though. There is at least one lib goon here harvesting posts for internet points and I say god bless em.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:48
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therattle posted:Fair enough. Yes of course Jews do, the point being made is that the centrist and right wing media don’t. Is this guy another pound shop Pissflaps?
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Oct 30, 2020 23:48
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Oh cool they just dropped that we're going into a national lockdown again (in England) on Wednesday. After briefing the cabinet to deny this all day. At 9pm on a Friday. https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1322294630906503171 Restrictions to last for 1 month.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:49
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I still can't believe they called it eat out to help out and apparently the whole of the country just let that pass by without comment.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:50
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He was doing this in cspam and they told the poor bastard to bring it to DnD lol
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Oct 30, 2020 23:50
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Welp back into doing exactly the loving same thing I've been doing for the past 6 months except I might be forced to go into work in person. Yay.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:51
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big scary monsters posted:I still can't believe they called it eat out to help out and apparently the whole of the country just let that pass by without comment. It was too obvious they meant it that way so it's funnier to ignore it. It's like when Microsoft calls the new xbox the Series X and absolutely nobody is calling it the SeX or SeXbox
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Oct 30, 2020 23:52
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I don't believe that Tories are constitutionally capable of making that joke, but maybe you're right and they employed someone who could to name it.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:54
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therattle posted:It’s almost as if Jews call out antisemitism when they see it, and not only in the Labour Party because it’s “politically convenient”. Feel like those quotation marks are doing a lot of work there mate, mind spelling out your point for us slow ones at the back?
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Oct 30, 2020 23:54
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/fetzert/status/1322078576133525504?s=20 Nah, he got a lot of money for tory donors and so into the party with that. It prob increased his chances a lot. Brexit will ruin him though.
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Oct 31, 2020 00:00
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serious gaylord posted:Oh cool they just dropped that we're going into a national lockdown again (in England) on Wednesday. After briefing the cabinet to deny this all day. At 9pm on a Friday.  and non-essential shops to close? What, so you pack the kids off to their local viral hotbed, then spend the day playing 40K in Games Workshop because you can't go and buy any food?
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Oct 31, 2020 00:04
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Payndz posted:Everything except schools I think he meant 'essential' shops which is all of them if they leave the categorising up to the owners. But yes, keeping schools open given they are now showing to be the biggest vectors of the disease while kneecapping the economy seems nonsensical at best and actively suicidal at worst.
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Oct 31, 2020 00:08
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feedmegin posted:A statement prepared because the first thing that was going to happen was journalists asking him for his reaction. 'No comment' wasn't an option. Not mentioning that there was a smear campaign would also have been taken as an admission of guilt. I'm glad he told the truth. “I haven’t had time to properly read and consider the final report. Once I have had an opportunity to do so I’ll release a statement”. He had options. He just chose not to take them. Jakabite posted:Yes of course Jews do, the point being made is that the centrist and right wing media don’t. Is this guy another pound shop Pissflaps? The comments I was replying to were basically saying that there was no criticism at all, it’s fine for him to say it - not that there was no criticism from centrist and right wing media. Poundshop pissflaps would be an excellent username. therattle fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 31, 2020 |
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Oct 31, 2020 00:09
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Not only would a 2nd lockdown not work if they continue to let kids go to school, it will further erode trust in the government and when the necessary 3rd lockdown happens, because it will unless a vaccine arrives, you'll get stuff like whats happening in spain. https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1322306670471663616
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Oct 31, 2020 00:11
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serious gaylord posted:Oh cool they just dropped that we're going into a national lockdown again (in England) on Wednesday. After briefing the cabinet to deny this all day. At 9pm on a Friday. Why do we have to learn this poo poo from 'cabinet sources' every loving time?!
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Oct 31, 2020 00:13
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serious gaylord posted:Not only would a 2nd lockdown not work if they continue to let kids go to school, it will further erode trust in the government and when the necessary 3rd lockdown happens, because it will unless a vaccine arrives, you'll get stuff like whats happening in spain. in re school, i know, different country and all, but take a look at how much schools can contribute to spread (because i am constantly hearing how they aren't)  of the more than 6000 total cases in ottawa, 40% of the spread is from schools. 20% elsewhere. i understand that schooling is important but surely there is middle ground we could all be walking?
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Oct 31, 2020 00:14
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mediaphage posted:in re school, i know, different country and all, but take a look at how much schools can contribute to spread (because i am constantly hearing how they aren't) Keeping schools open frees the parents to work in some capacity though. What exactly is forced shut, what protections are given to the workers in shuttered industries and how many industries are given a pass are vital to whether this is going to work or if we're throwing more lives into the volcano in pursuit of Number.
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Oct 31, 2020 00:23
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therattle posted:“I haven’t had time to properly read and consider the final report. Once I have had an opportunity to do so I’ll release a statement”. He had options. He just chose not to take them. And then we do exactly the same thing, just a day later 
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I just had a rare moment of being heartened by the realisation that as he's not a minister or even an elected politician and therefore lacks crown immunity, Dominic Cummings could technically be held criminally accountable for every death - rapidly approaching 1 Brit in every 1000! - resulting from his sociopathic policies. Not that this will ever happen, but y'know, you take these little nuggets of hope where you can.
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Oct 31, 2020 00:24
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