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Coredump posted:How is Trump doing so well with Hispanics vs Biden? Biden didn't consider them on his path to victory but loving Trump wants to build a wall to keep them out, is separating families at the border, says they're not sending their best, etc etc etc. HOW? Theyre white latinos and think they are the privileged minorities that are better than the brown ones. Clinton reached out to them and they got richer at the time. There are similar Middle Eastern shifts.
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punk rebel ecks posted:What do I believe? I mean, they're two completely different metrics, so "both" or "neither" are fine.
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punk rebel ecks posted:What do I believe? Probably the one with an actual breakdown
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Harrison's closer to Graham than I thought he'd be this is great
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fondue posted:I've been reading for years about people fleeing California for Texas but never ever thought of the political implications. I thought the whole deal with this was that all the Californians moving to Texas are larping chuds who want to roll coal and stomp around kicking Mexicans in the face with cowboy boots without those fat cats in Sacramento frowning at them
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Bloody Pom posted:This but add saying blue mirage God, please.
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The darkest timeline is Biden losing Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, and Arizona, all by less than 2% of the vote. Sounds pretty 2020 to me.
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FiskTireBoy posted:CNN keeps saying that if Biden wins NC then it's almost impossible for Trump to win. That's probably why it's ultimately going to go in Trump's favor. 2020 isn't done with us yet, and it's going to exact as much suffering as it possibly can. I want to be hopeful, but I can't. 2016 broke me, and the results I'm seeing so far, as close as they are, just aren't filling me with confidence.
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MrMidnight posted:It's just too much when you consider what's at stake. I understand the doom and gloom Not to mention people have been broken. We've been watching the destruction of the country for years and we're hanging by a thread. We need something good to even have a hope of pulling out of this.
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GOP swept pinellas local elections except the school board. Lost a dem state rep but looking like we kept the dem state senator.
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Data Graham posted:I thought the whole deal with this was that all the Californians moving to Texas are larping chuds who want to roll coal and stomp around kicking Mexicans in the face with cowboy boots without those fat cats in Sacramento frowning at them Texas added tech jobs so people followed the money since it has a warm climate too. As cities grow, Democratic votes grow.
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All I dumb (yes), or is Ohio for Biden a big loving deal.
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punk rebel ecks posted:What do I believe? Your own personal anecdotes based on N=30 or so. Ignore all data, embrace the personal experience, and shape your world based on what's comfortable to you. *drinks heavily* quote:All I dumb (yes), or is Ohio for Biden a big loving deal. General Election Liveposting: All I dumb (yes)
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Reid Epstein at NYT:quote:So far Biden is outperforming Clinton’s numbers in Houston and Dallas, but if he is to win the state he probably needs to exceed 2016 by more than he is doing right now.
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Coredump posted:How is Trump doing so well with Hispanics vs Biden? Biden didn't consider them on his path to victory but loving Trump wants to build a wall to keep them out, is separating families at the border, says they're not sending their best, etc etc etc. HOW? A whole lot of immigrants support anti-immigration policies. Remember, they can vote. They are already in.
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Coredump posted:How is Trump doing so well with Hispanics vs Biden? Biden didn't consider them on his path to victory but loving Trump wants to build a wall to keep them out, is separating families at the border, says they're not sending their best, etc etc etc. HOW? Liberals may accuse these Latinos of voting against their own interests, given Trump’s mishandling of the pandemic, attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and restrictions on immigration—all issues that affect millions of Latino lives. But many pro-Trump Latinos told me they simply define their interests differently than their more progressive cousins do. They don’t necessarily feel solidarity with Latinos as a whole, and many identify themselves as American first. (Some reject “Latino” or “Latinx” labels as well.) Many are lifelong Republicans not eager to abandon their party, and Trump’s economy-first message and opposition to abortion rights resonate with them. Democrats shouldn’t be surprised if Trump matches or improves on his 2016 showing among Latinos on November 3, or if their votes help him hold battleground states such as Arizona and Florida. Republican Latinos have always existed, and the Trump campaign has dedicated significant resources to winning over more of the Hispanic community this election cycle.
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, I don't get why this isn't obvious to people. So far this election seems to be reinforcing the idea that Biden pulled in a bunch of extra whites and lost other support, and a large portion of those people are either going to return to the Republican fold or not vote at all in the future once Trump is gone. "it worked for the primaries so it's a winning strategy in every other case" - the democrats, two years before getting obliterated in congress and four years before losing to president dan crenshaw
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far? No one loving knows because this is a weird election.
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far? Right now, this is a "ask two people, get three answers" kinda question
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far? Trump lost but there is still plenty of doomscrolling to come.
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Ionicpsycho posted:All I dumb (yes), or is Ohio for Biden a big loving deal. No Republican has ever won without carrying Ohio.
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fondue posted:I've been reading for years about people fleeing California for Texas but never ever thought of the political implications. Yeah. They've been keeping Texas red.
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BougieBitch posted:Probably the one with an actual breakdown I’m having a breakdown right now.
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https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2005/06/27/iv-how-latinos-voted-in-2004/ For some historical reference some people here probably don't care much about but Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote nationally, which was somewhat of a high point.
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Coredump posted:How is Trump doing so well with Hispanics vs Biden? Biden didn't consider them on his path to victory but loving Trump wants to build a wall to keep them out, is separating families at the border, says they're not sending their best, etc etc etc. HOW? Ignore the Cuban gusano thing and understand that Hispanics (or Latino) is an ethnic designator, not a race. Many Latinos consider themselves white. Many of them are at least one generation removed from coming here, which means that they can feel safe (somewhat) in their status as citizens and that because they did it "the right way" unlike the kids in cages right now. And because of those two factors (among others, like the fact that Latinos are the fastest growing group in the US and have seen an increase in wealth relative to native born Latinos) they feel comfortable in believing that they can find safe haven within the Republican party or at least cause enough fuss to not be the target as long as there's illegal immigration to focus on. There are many levels of stratification within the Latino community (just like other minorities) and unfortunately many people default to racial and/or class allegiances before ethnicity or culture. It's complicated but essentially the last 4 years have ripped the veil away from the pernicious influence of white supremacy in this country for many, many people and an not insignificant number are going to choose to be at the right hand of the devil rather than in his path. Same old poo poo.
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far?
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fulton county is still not inmarsisol posted:What's going on with VA? already basically called for biden
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far? Better than expected in Ohio, worse in Florida. Just assume national polls were mostly right and state ones were too infrequent/small
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Nail Rat posted:So I have a hard time keeping track of this all. Is poo poo looking worse than we thought, better, or about expected so far? This election is going to be contested and there are a lot of externalities from lack of preparedness and intentional fuckery, so it's .... uh. Going. If someone tells you anything definitively right now, check other sources. It's gonna be a long one.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I’m having a breakdown right now. same tbh
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GI_Clutch posted:We're having a frozen margherita pizza for dinner because I'm just not in the mood cook or really anything tonight (or possibly days...) Are you at least going to heat it up?
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