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Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!
Wheelchair Nazi Wunderkind Madison Cawthorn has won

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FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Bashez posted:

Is there a reason to believe that wasn't a tactical decision made after seeing them shift rather than something that caused the shift?

latino voters, especially in nevada, went HARD to Bernie. They did a massive outreach to them.

The DNC decided they didn't want that and instead went hard for racist whites in rust belt states. that's their whole election.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

Vorik posted:

Well this is pretty much going the same as last time with people hoping the last few counties would flip the state. To me that's a strong sign that the race is already lost. I think it's time to start thinking about the future of the democratic party instead.

There is going to be so much racism directed at Latinos by self styled progressives if Trump wins.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
I’m gonna feel the panic set in cause Biden’s leads in NC and Ohio are crumbling and Michigan is Trump wtf

And what happened in Virginia?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Fritz the Horse posted:

Wheelchair Nazi Wunderkind Madison Cawthorn has won

sickening

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Vorik posted:

Man people said the same exact thing in 2016. It's not the end of the world.

Until it is, with continued environmental deregulation in the face of rapidly accelerating climate change!

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Didn't half of Americans vote by mail? I'd assume unless Trump wins in a blowout then the results don't matter much. You can throw out a lot of ballots but not half of them.

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

Endorph posted:

Then wouldn't they have tried to shore that up rather than give up completely? It's still a demo that favors Biden massively, just less than they favored Clinton. That seems pretty achievable, Florida aside.

I don't think they gave up completely but I really don't know.

FizFashizzle posted:

latino voters, especially in nevada, went HARD to Bernie. They did a massive outreach to them.

The DNC decided they didn't want that and instead went hard for racist whites in rust belt states. that's their whole election.


I didn't see that support translate to Texas in the primary at all.

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

Dems gain Colorado senate. +1

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Vorik posted:

Man people said the same exact thing in 2016. It's not the end of the world.

Things have gotten absurdly bad in the past 4 years and you will have Trump with no reelection worries and a majority Supreme Court. It may not be the end of your world but it will be for a lot of people.

Petr
Oct 3, 2000

punk rebel ecks posted:

Didn't half of Americans vote by mail? I'd assume unless Trump wins in a blowout then the results don't matter much. You can throw out a lot of ballots but not half of them.

I mean, I'm pretty sure any races getting called tonight are including projections from that.

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die

Zotix posted:

El Paso still isn't in, and the majority of the rural areas in the north do not have many votes. Hidalgo county is still out, Cameron county.

Back to 49.6% to 49.0%, so I'll keep my hopes up!

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo
Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?

Inglonias
Mar 7, 2013

I WILL PUT THIS FLAG ON FREAKING EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS SYMBOLIC AS HELL SOMEHOW

Can someone link me to that NYTimes flowchart thing? I seem to have lost it.

EDIT: Found it.

Inglonias fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Nov 4, 2020

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?

NoVa is hilariously blue

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

punk rebel ecks posted:

Didn't half of Americans vote by mail? I'd assume unless Trump wins in a blowout then the results don't matter much. You can throw out a lot of ballots but not half of them.

Let me tell yiu about bush v gore

Goosed it.
Nov 3, 2011

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?

What's happening in Virgina?

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

It's almost like writing off a large part of the electorate was a bad idea.

Several news organization profiled towns in this area and their concerns were higher taxes, socialism, communism, and climate change policy raising their energy prices.

Hispanic voters made decisions based on policy they find important.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Gatts posted:

I’m gonna feel the panic set in cause Biden’s leads in NC and Ohio are crumbling and Michigan is Trump wtf

And what happened in Virginia?

Michigan didn't count the cities yet, if it did, it would have long been called.

Last time, the cities added not enough to Clinton, so you then knew it was done.

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

Nail Rat posted:

I've promised my wife if Trump is reelected we are moving to Taiwan (she's from there).

I mean, yeah that’s fair

berserker
Aug 17, 2003

My love for you
is ticking clock

Petr posted:

I mean, I'm pretty sure any races getting called tonight are including projections from that.

And there are states who have already been counting mail in ballots for a few days or weeks.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



El Pollo Blanco posted:

Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?
It's not a swing state

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

fool of sound posted:

Let me tell yiu about bush v gore

The number of Zoomers voting for the 1st or 2nd time who have no memory of 2000 is sobering.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?
It's Virginia. The numbers Trump got in the insanely red parts of the state were nowhere near enough to outbalance the blue parts of Virginia, even if Biden had a mediocre performance. You're basically asking why they called California for Biden immediately.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

Youth Decay posted:

Yeah Biden's winning NC, DDHQ has the most updated totals

Having a look here https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/ and their estimate is interesting.

It would mean that the numbers will stabilize and stay the same from now till the end of the spoil. Great if true.

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Can someone explain why NYT called Virginia for Biden almost immediately?

Northern Virginia, Richmond, Hampton Roads. NoVa in particular takes for-loving-ever to turn votes in

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Vorik posted:

Well this is pretty much going the same as last time with people hoping the last few counties would flip the state. To me that's a strong sign that the race is already lost. I think it's time to start thinking about the future of the democratic party instead.

every single person who gives half a poo poo about anything ever getting better in this terrible, awful country has been thinking about the future of this fail party of absolute shitgibbons the second they pulled the most blatant fuckin bullshit ever in the primaries because one of the candidates had the audacity to want to give people healthcare.

everything about how they conducted themselves this year has been loving terrible on every level and they have certainly done major damage to their image in the eyes of their most reliable voter blocks in the name of chasing old white conservative shitheads who will never vote for them again. the entire thing is rotten. the fact that tonight isn't a gigantic, massive blowout against a dude who willfully mishandled a massive deadly plague is proof positive that this party has absolutely no connection to its voter base at all. they are completely out of touch and even if biden manages to eek out a win, 2022 is going to be ugly when those old white conservatives aren't voting against donald trump anymore and the minority voters they lost don't come back to pick up the slack because they were explicitly told that they don't matter.

gently caress the democrats.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Goosed it. posted:

What's happening in Virgina?

Isn't northern Virginia extremely blue?

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Not sure if Bernie would have done any better tonight. Seems like its a tradeoff between hispanics and racist white people, at least against Trump.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Remember in VA the rural areas report first, the NoVA area last

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

mind the walrus posted:

The number of Zoomers voting for the 1st or 2nd time who have no memory of 2000 is sobering.

I was seven years old when it happened lol

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
ขอให้โชคดี
That QAnon wacko Marjorie Taylor-Greene won in GA

Cawthorn the Nazi won too

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Bashez posted:


I didn't see that support translate to Texas in the primary at all.

the same things that stop dems from voting in generals stop progressives from voting in primaries

Cael
Feb 2, 2004

I get this funky high on the yellow sun.

Inglonias posted:

Can someone link me to that NYTimes flowchart thing? I seem to have lost it.

You have to scroll most of the way down the page but it should be at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
They are desperate to keep votes from being counted.

https://twitter.com/timelywriter/status/1323811635576950785?s=20

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Fritz the Horse posted:

Wheelchair Nazi Wunderkind Madison Cawthorn has won

I feel like it needs to be pointed out that this kid is a straight up fascist. Not a joke, not hyperbole, just entirely a fascist.

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





fool of sound posted:

I was seven years old when it happened lol

It was the first presidential election I got to vote in and it nearly soured me on the whole thing.

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

every single person who gives half a poo poo about anything ever getting better in this terrible, awful country has been thinking about the future of this fail party of absolute shitgibbons the second they pulled the most blatant fuckin bullshit ever in the primaries because one of the candidates had the audacity to want to give people healthcare.

everything about how they conducted themselves this year has been loving terrible on every level and they have certainly done major damage to their image in the eyes of their most reliable voter blocks in the name of chasing old white conservative shitheads who will never vote for them again. the entire thing is rotten. the fact that tonight isn't a gigantic, massive blowout against a dude who willfully mishandled a massive deadly plague is proof positive that this party has absolutely no connection to its voter base at all. they are completely out of touch and even if biden manages to eek out a win, 2022 is going to be ugly when those old white conservatives aren't voting against donald trump anymore and the minority voters they lost don't come back to pick up the slack because they were explicitly told that they don't matter.

gently caress the democrats.

Yeah pretty much. The party learned nothing from 2016. Nothing.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Seriously we go through this every election with Virginia and it's the same deal every time: The tiny red parts of Virginia are counted first, so it gets red, and then the giant blue parts of the state get counted and it goes to the dems. There is no universe where Texas, Ohio, and North Carolina are relatively close and Virginia flips to Trump. Biden could have a worse night than Clinton and still win Virginia. There is no point keeping an eye on Virginia.

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Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

Is there any way that Donny can win the popular vote but lose the EC from this point?

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