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Simplex posted:I think a low-key story right now is that the polls seem to be as wildly far off as people imagine the 2016 polls were. Either we are going to see some pretty crazy swings the rest of the night and tomorrow, or I'm not sure what. People were also saying if the polls were as wrong as they were in 2016 that Biden would still win and that's looking increasingly likely.
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Cabbit posted:I mean given the nature of how hosed up and staggered the vote counts are crazy swings are definitely possible. Yeah I think the margins in the midwest are going to move closer to the polling averages with mail-ins included.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:22 |
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Simplex posted:I think a low-key story right now is that the polls seem to be as wildly far off as people imagine the 2016 polls were. Also gently caress the Hispanic men that went +3 for Trump or whatever loving vendido shits.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:23 |
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My quick math says that they're be around 4 points off instead of 3 if things continue as they are in the Midwest, and generally 2-3 otherwise. Late vote totals just scared half the thread early on even though they were warned.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:24 |
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NBC crew is getting tired. There is some openly passive-aggressive snipping going on between Chuck Todd and the lady newscaster (sorry, forgot her name).
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never imagined it being this close
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Geshtal posted:MSNBC crew is getting tired. There is some openly passive-aggressive snipping going on between Chuck Todd and the lady newscaster (sorry, forgot her name). Any anecdotes?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:25 |
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Common your orange loving coward speak. I want to know if its safe to go outside tomorrow.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:25 |
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Fox News still interrogating the decision desk about the AZ call, Trump campaign is REALLY mad about it but the nerds are holding their ground Saying that their call has a 1 in 1200 chance of being false (or p=.00083, I guess)
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:26 |
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Geshtal posted:MSNBC crew is getting tired. There is some openly passive-aggressive snipping going on between Chuck Todd and the lady newscaster (sorry, forgot her name). I get the feeling Chuck Todd really grates on these guys’ nerves. He’s excitable and they just look loving done lol
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:27 |
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Deflategate Retrospective posted:never imagined it being this close Right? I mean.... loving what the loving gently caress
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:27 |
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Appoda posted:Any anecdotes? Just a lot of talking over each other and a touch of mansplaining from Chuck to the younger lady, and teasing(?) Andrea. Lester is interrupting now and again to play the grownup in the room.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:28 |
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Roger Explosion posted:I want to record this somewhere because I sure as hell aint posting poo poo on social media BUT I called it four years ago, and I'm calling it now: Trump will win.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:28 |
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Where's the hope for GA coming from? Is there a wait on postal ballots etc there too?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:28 |
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Fox pundits getting real nervous since their nerd is saying that Biden holds the advantage in WI and MI and that several states will not be called tonight
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1323873319750283265PTizzle posted:Where's the hope for GA coming from? Is there a wait on postal ballots etc there too? The early vote in Atlanta is basically uncounted and its all that left, it has a good chance of having enough of a margin for Biden to pull it off. There are like 5 million people in the Atlanta area
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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I want to take a shower and go to bed but I really want to see Trump make an announcement because that would make me laugh and I need a laugh
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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Geshtal posted:MSNBC crew is getting tired. There is some openly passive-aggressive snipping going on between Chuck Todd and the lady newscaster (sorry, forgot her name). Chuck Todd has been sequestered on Broadcast NBC, the MSNBC crew is Brian Williams, Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace, Joy Reid and Steve Kornacki. I don't think I've seen Todd all night and I've had one eye on MSNBC and one eye on the forums.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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PTizzle posted:Where's the hope for GA coming from? Is there a wait on postal ballots etc there too? all the outstanding votes left are in the atlanta metro
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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Are the polls actually that far off? Or is it because we are all now voting on sketch AF electronic voting machines by companies CEO's who have testified in-front of congress stating that the source codes on said machines could be manipulated in such a way to make results look legitimate while not actually being legitimate?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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PTizzle posted:Where's the hope for GA coming from? Is there a wait on postal ballots etc there too? My understanding is "Atlanta isn't remotely close to finished yet."
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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Everyone was telling us for weeks that this would be a crazy night and because of mail in votes we wouldn't know anything solid for days to weeks. The biggest hope of not dealing with that was a Biden win in Florida which we didn't get. Biden looks poised to win and Trump's best shot is going to be taking things to court but I think we're ok.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:29 |
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Roger Explosion posted:Lookin' good for my page 9 prediction! Nope! Trump's in deep now. Short of getting the court to call it over in his favor, he doesn't have a realistic path to win on the votes.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:30 |
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Zotix posted:Are the polls actually that far off? Or is it because we are all now voting on sketch AF electronic voting machines by companies CEO's who have testified in-front of congress stating that the source codes on said machines could be manipulated in such a way to make results look legitimate while not actually being legitimate?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:30 |
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I think a waterpipe or something burst in the building they were counting the Atlanta votes, delaying even getting started on those by several hours.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:30 |
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Zotix posted:Are the polls actually that far off? Or is it because we are all now voting on sketch AF electronic voting machines by companies CEO's who have testified in-front of congress stating that the source codes on said machines could be manipulated in such a way to make results look legitimate while not actually being legitimate? Florida is on paper ballots still and they missed badly on the polls with no spooky action except not counting Cubans at all in their model unless your talking about the scanners?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:31 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Chuck Todd has been sequestered on Broadcast NBC, the MSNBC crew is Brian Williams, Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace, Joy Reid and Steve Kornacki. I don't think I've seen Todd all night and I've had one eye on MSNBC and one eye on the forums. Thanks, corrected.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:31 |
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PTizzle posted:Where's the hope for GA coming from? Is there a wait on postal ballots etc there too? The needle (PBUH) is calling it a tossup. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ine_menu_recirc
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:32 |
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Oh gently caress it I think going to sleep because it's clear dipshit isn't going to say anything no want to hear. Here's to hoping there's good news in the AM
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:32 |
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Geshtal posted:Thanks, corrected. You had me worried/excited that I'd somehow become capable of mentally erasing Chuck Todd from my perception of reality and I'm now immensely disappointed that that's not the case.
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Randarkman posted:I think a waterpipe or something burst in the building they were counting the Atlanta votes, delaying even getting started on those by several hours. Yep, though they quickly clarified that none of the ballots themselves were harmed, thank god.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:33 |
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Deflategate Retrospective posted:never imagined it being this close Both Nates DID tell us that the difference between a Biden Landslide and a Biden Squeeker was razor thin. We just never imagined it'd not only be THIS true, but also dragged out THIS bad, even though our brains told us it would. If Georgia flips after everything else we've been though tonight, I'd still call this huge though. Winning back the blue wall plus AZ AND GA is a pretty clear message. Just not the earth-shattering one we hoped for. What I'm really worried about now is the Senate, and how the BEST hope seems to be 50/50. That'll make life really hard.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:34 |
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Youth Decay posted:Fox News still interrogating the decision desk about the AZ call, Trump campaign is REALLY mad about it but the nerds are holding their ground I've said this before but I just do not see how the county map gives Trump a path to winning it. Most of the counties are hovering around 75-80% reporting, including Maricopa which is a big Dem stronghold and Pime which is smaller but similar. Unless the remaining votes in these two counties are way, way higher for Trump than the votes already counted there he's got no reserves he can draw on. I think Fox are completely right to call AZ for Biden and stick to it.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:34 |
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nine-gear crow posted:You had me worried/excited that I'd somehow become capable of mentally erasing Chuck Todd from my perception of reality and I'm now immensely disappointed that that's not the case. If only you could learn to harness these powers for good rather than evil! (Ahhhh, it's been a long night and I'm getting punch-tired, but I feel I can soon sleep soundly that this one is all but settled for the Democrats.)
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Did not think I'd see such a huge Biden shift in the Western states (West of TX at least) relative to the rest of the country, across demographics.
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:34 |
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Okay, so how were things looking at THIS point of the night in 2016?
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:34 |
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MI and WI are looking strong for trump and they have quite a bit counter (61% and 77%). That's worrying
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:35 |
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ImpAtom posted:My understanding is "Atlanta isn't remotely close to finished yet." fulton county is mostly reported in, as is cobb. gwinnett is nearly entirely reported. the big pool of uncounted votes so far is dekalb, which is going to be a big stack of blue votes. the question is how much i don't think it's going to be enough to tip the state to biden but it's close enough to give the trump people ulcers
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# ? Nov 4, 2020 07:35 |
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SexyBlindfold posted:Okay, so how were things looking at THIS point of the night in 2016? Pretty similar, lots of "It'll shift once more votes come in." The difference being largely that in this case the early voting stuff has a lot more potential to shift things.
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