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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Bring it. https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1324002777597677569 If Scott Walker doesn't think a recount will do poo poo for Trump in WI, then I think we're good.
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Dr Pepper posted:Meanwhile: in reality and not your smug liberal bubble actual progressive policy is popular but no politician actually supports it. The dems have bee aiming for the white racist right winger and its not gotten them anywhere. Nebulous progressive policy polling well means very little. Polls are already useless as it is, the thought that because a random "do you support x vague progressive policy" poll has numbers you like means America will suddenly turn leftist is big lol. Good luck overcoming a 20k vote deficit with a recount.
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Dr Pepper posted:Meanwhile: in reality and not your smug liberal bubble actual progressive policy is popular but no politician actually supports it. The dems have bee aiming for the white racist right winger and its not gotten them anywhere. I'm in Joe Kennedy's district, which had exceptionally qualified progressive candidates running on every one of the progressive policies that have any mainstream attention and they got owned by a former Republican. Leftism is struggling in Massachusetts, let alone swing districts.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Do we know what kind of beer AOC drinks? I gotta imagine she is more mixed drinks considering she was a bartender
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:here's an article that speaks about this small sliver of the electorate: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/trump-macho-appeal.html i read this and it talks about trumps macho persona but not "talking down to women" or whatever. the quotes they take from their interviewees talk about trump being "strong." again, no mention of how its rad to talk down to women. so where are you getting the misogynistic hispanic man thing? Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Bring it. Keep in mind that our Governor, Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General, etc are all dems so I'm hopeful that it will help keep the chud fuckery to a minimum.
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SexyBlindfold posted:Be sure to channel those policies through a candidate you can have a beer with, though. It is indeed completely meaningless conjecture to divorce policy from the people promoting said policy. In a vacuum, people might support X or Y because the issue hasn't been viciously polarised/politicised yet. If people can have learned loving anything from these last 4 years, what you say is completely subjugated to who says it in America. If Trump proposed any highly progressive policy, suddenly it's Republican praxis and always has been. If Biden says it, suddenly it's anathema. For tens of millions of people, it really is that simple.
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sexpig by night posted:you can't campaign on one thing but you can campaign on like...two or three and that's all you loving need. This is the DSA platform of course and as soon as these idiots hear "Socialist" their lizard brain activates
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Angry_Ed posted:Agreed. The DSA getting 26 of 30 victories is a great sign, but that momentum needs to be capitalized on
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Vorik posted:Nebulous progressive policy polling well means very little. Polls are already useless as it is, the thought that because a random "do you support x vague progressive policy" poll has numbers you like means America will suddenly turn leftist is big lol. Everyone wants the policies, no one wants to vote for the progressive. That's been my direct experience, and I don't see that changing (especially nationally) anytime soon. Someone is going to have to be stealth progressive to get in if at all.
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Isn't Biden's margin like 20k in Wisconsin? Good fuckin luck, dude.
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Zero_Grade posted:That sounds pretty great! Do you have a list of them by any chance? I don't, I was just going off a tweet of theirs: https://mobile.twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/1324043849023586306
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sexpig by night posted:you can't campaign on one thing but you can campaign on like...two or three and that's all you loving need. I don’t disagree with you, but I will say that results haven’t exactly supported this notion. Paula Jean Swearengin campaigned on M4A and worker’s rights to a constituency which desperately needs both. She was destroyed.
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LorneReams posted:Everyone wants the policies, no one wants to vote for the progressive. That's been my direct experience, and I don't see that changing (especially nationally) anytime soon. Someone is going to have to be stealth progressive to get in if at all. Progressives need a Trump like personality. A tell it like it is weirdo that is somehow charismatic and is difficult to land attacks on. It’s possible.
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"get your loving rear end in this court god damnit or I swear to god" Shammypants posted:Progressives need a Trump like personality. A tell it like it is weirdo that is somehow charismatic and is difficult to land attacks on. It’s possible. I nominate Wil Wheaton, he even has a catchphrase "don't be a dick" and it's four words!
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The Glumslinger posted:I gotta imagine she is more mixed drinks considering she was a bartender Americas bartender: she’ll give it to you straight up.
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MJeff posted:Isn't Biden's margin like 20k in Wisconsin? Good fuckin luck, dude. Even if they do a recount it won’t matter
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MJeff posted:Isn't Biden's margin like 20k in Wisconsin? Good fuckin luck, dude. Even Scott Walker is saying it won't do poo poo so this is just the inevitable tantrum we were expecting
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Deteriorata posted:And just what would that be, specifically? How do you punish the opposing party for intransigence? Particularly when that is exactly what their own voters want? Who gives a gently caress about that their voters want? Kill the decorum poisoned liberal in your brain. If passing the legislation that their own constituents want isn't possible (and that was clearly obvious by 2016) then Democrats should've fought tooth and nail to minimize every single thing possible - budgets, appointees, etc. Do some loving base building and get voters engaged in mutual aid - "hey things are bad, we're going to help your community find a way to prosper regardless AND we're going to hold the line". Think outside the loving box, otherwise they're just going to keep losing. Dr Pepper posted:You take to the streets and start burning things down. Voting is useless, direct action gets the goods. It's been said before but the uprisings this summer did more to shift policy on police than the entire previous decade of action by politicians. When all else fails get out in the loving streets.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:No I'm talking about Nevada, who said they don't have any updates until tomorrow. Oh okay, my bad. Anyway, who funds a recount in Wisconsin if they go ahead with it? Is this a repeat where Jill Stein raises donations and then pockets the money but replace Jill Stein with Donald Trump?
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He needs to start putting people in handcuffs until there are no ballots in any post office at the end of each day. Every state party in a state that wouldn't normally count day after ballots needs to join this action and sue that they need to be allowed to count those votes.
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Dr Pepper posted:You take to the streets and start burning things down. Voting is useless, direct action gets the goods. We have all been doing direct action for basically the whole year, what goods have we got? Police are still garbage, nothing has been done to reign them in, all that has happened in people getting shot and killed. There's a human cost to doing this, and its worth it if something happens, and we shouldn't stop now, but direct action can't pass laws or change government institutions, it can only influence voters and politicians, so if the voters don't show up and the politicians are unmoved then what is the mechanism for change here? You need both, and I was hopeful we had both, but unless Georgia flips we didn't get what we needed to and the only thing we can hope for is incremental change at the local and state level to somehow trickle up to the federal level
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The Glumslinger posted:I gotta imagine she is more mixed drinks considering she was a bartender She’s made a good margarita on stream before.
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I'm sorry, I didn't ask the question I meant to ask, which was: Does anyone have a summary of the polling and/or vote counting signals that have indicated that there will be no blue shift in the House this year? I'm trying to understand how we even know the state of things, not why they occurred.
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Shammypants posted:Progressives need a Trump like personality. A tell it like it is weirdo that is somehow charismatic and is difficult to land attacks on. It’s possible. Man, if only we had someone like that running in the Primaries. maybe someone with wide spread youth appeal? Man if only it were possible for that guy to be the dem candidate.
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SexyBlindfold posted:Be sure to channel those policies through a candidate you can have a beer with, though. Who was thay Dem guy, that older guy, that was found to have the highest favorables of any US politican? Did that guy like any of those policies? I wonder if he would have won...
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Benjamin Disraeli posted:Keep in mind that our Governor, Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General, etc are all dems so I'm hopeful that it will help keep the chud fuckery to a minimum. True, but Walker and the State legislature cut Evers' balls off in the lame.duck session, and we have a very chud heavy legislature and SC
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Shammypants posted:Progressives need a Trump like personality. A tell it like it is weirdo that is somehow charismatic and is difficult to land attacks on. It’s possible. I think the issue there is that 'tell it like it is' isn't actually telling the truth but being an rear end in a top hat. People don't like Trump because he's truthful, they like him because he says horrible things that they like the sound of. It's a lot harder for a progressive to do that because "This is a fundamentally racist country and we need to defund the police and acknowledge our mistakes" sounds a lot worse than "We RULE and are AWESOME and it's those OTHER GUYS WHO MAKE EVERYTHING BAD." Sanders is the closest but "difficult to land attacks on" isn't true for him in a country where the word socialist is more unpopular than socialist policies.
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Baronash posted:I don’t disagree with you, but I will say that results haven’t exactly supported this notion. Paula Jean Swearengin campaigned on M4A and worker’s rights to a constituency which desperately needs both. She was destroyed. She ran in a very Trump favored state against an incumbent, the top of the ticket has a massive impact downtick its kind of dumb to try and extrapolate her loss on her campaign platform when a much bigger and clear reason is staring you in the face.
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Bootleg Trunks posted:Just got up hows the senate look Bad.
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Aramis posted:It's not mail-in though, unless I'm mistaken. It's mostly day-of ballots from Atlanta that were delayed, so expecting that to not stray far from Biden's 80% ratio in that area is not unreasonable. These are the counties that make up metro Atlanta code:Coredump fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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