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Republicans posted:Barring some surprise out of Nevada it's over, Trump lost. WHAT THE gently caress NO loving WAY NO loving WAY please don’t be loving with me my man
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:You guys have to loving realize that funny poo poo is about to happens after this. Ah yes, the federal pardon for state crimes
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:You guys have to loving realize that funny poo poo is about to happens after this. Pardons from state cases are no more a thing now than they were when this was first suggested a billion years ago in 2019 Now, whether Trump knows that is a whole other ballgame
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tehinternet posted:WHAT THE gently caress Biden is ahead in MI and it’ll be called soon I suspect. If NV holds, it’ll be 270.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:You guys have to loving realize that funny poo poo is about to happens after this. Pardons don’t affect state charges this has been repeated over and over
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tehinternet posted:WHAT THE gently caress Nope, the Red Mirage was very real and we won the great lakes states back, will probably in Pennsylvania and might even win Georgia.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:54
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:You guys have to loving realize that funny poo poo is about to happens after this. Trump can just pardon himself, it's never been tested but the courts haven't put a lot of limits on the President's pardon power. I'm guessing there's already a piece of paper in his lawyer's office signed by Trump pardoning him for all crimes, they'll just only reveal it publicly if they need to.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:55
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Are ya winnin, centrists?
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Nov 4, 2020 20:55
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Arizona has literally been called by two major news agencies
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Nov 4, 2020 20:55
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DynamicSloth posted:Trump can just pardon himself, it's never been tested but the courts haven't put a lot of limits on the President's pardon power. He can't pardon himself from state crimes. The second he's out of office the New York DA is coming for his rear end.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:56
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:He can't pardon himself from state crimes. The second he's out of office the New York DA is coming for his rear end. No, but then neither can Mike Pence after Trump resigns, which was the premise.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:56
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I will not hope. It's not over until its over.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:57
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:He can't pardon himself from state crimes. The second he's out of office the New York DA is coming for his rear end. Checkmate. Trump's rear end is way to big for any single state DA to handle....
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sexpig by night posted:https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1323890007019606016 Oh holy poo poo, it was so good that I forgot about the Lincoln Project completely. Just vanished out of my mind in all this mess when I should be angry/impressed at their grifting. I was however thinking that after this election I'm straight up unfollowing them and all the smug leftist people on Twitter. Turns out doing nothing but taking witty snide little pot-shots at Trump isn't actually helpful in any way and might be part of the reason CHUDs are so empowered, because it feeds into their persecution complex! Like what the hell was I doing following Jeff Tiedrich, what's he actually do?
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Nov 4, 2020 20:58
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Rea posted:Presidential pardons don't extend to state crimes. Has someone told trump this???????
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Nov 4, 2020 20:58
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Mat Cauthon posted:Isn't Kyrsten Sinema terrible though? Like a center-right democrat at best? Image trumps policy, the distinction you’re making is 100% correct but would make the eyes of 80% of voters glaze over Jigsaw posted:people go crazy for bravado/machismo/swagger. dems' whole thing is being timid and meek and talking about compromise, except when obama was confident and cool and he won handily (despite the compromise talk). toxic masculinity fucks us again Yeah, ppl here forget that there’s a large number of Democrats that are legit horny for the Obamas and treat them like the modern equivalent of the Kennedys’ Camelot. Obama’s the closest thing to the US electing Denzel Washington or George Clooney president to a large number of thirsty voters
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Nov 4, 2020 20:58
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President Biden sternly squinting at the NY prosecutors as they build their case.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:He can't pardon himself from state crimes. The second he's out of office the New York DA is coming for his rear end. Can the New York DA actually come for him unless he sets foot in NY? (not American, sorry)
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Nov 4, 2020 20:59
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InfiniteZero posted:Can the New York DA actually come for him unless he sets foot in NY? Yes, states rarely fight interstate extraditions seriously. Trumps going to have to shack up in Russia if he really wants to get away.
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Nov 4, 2020 20:59
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highme posted:I'm sorry your feelings are so fragile. "Otherwise kind, affable, generous" sexists and racists are still sexists and racists. I don't give any fucks about the otherwise. Grandstand all you want, doesn't mean it's good politics. D&D has has been throwing a fit about Trump's racism/sexism for the past 4 years and somehow he ended up with the most minority support since Nixon. Doesn't seem like they're really buying what liberals are selling at the moment.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:00
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:You guys have to loving realize that funny poo poo is about to happens after this. I wonder how much the stink of a president defecting to Moscow would impact his cult of personality.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:00
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fadam posted:Maybe I’m just a worry wart, but I still have a bad feeling something fucky is going to happen in Nevada or Arizona. If there's anything I know about being a voter here in AZ, it's that we run our elections pretty well. Aside from the last few elections where the polling stations were greatly reduced (thanks to a Republican SoS and County Recorder at the time), ballot counting and mail-in ballots have always gone smoothly here. I don't expect anything strange out of AZ, but there is always the chance that the balance of votes simply changes as more votes come out. It's not very likely though at this point.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:00
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LifeLynx posted:I was however thinking that after this election I'm straight up unfollowing them and all the smug leftist people on Twitter. Turns out doing nothing but taking witty snide little pot-shots at Trump isn't actually helpful in any way and might be part of the reason CHUDs are so empowered, because it feeds into their persecution complex! Like what the hell was I doing following Jeff Tiedrich, what's he actually do? Glad someone here is learning. If every person posting on twitter was gone tomorrow the world would be an infinitely better place.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:00
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nate fisher posted:AZ is going to be a tight one and I am a slightly worried (yes I know it has been called). Biden is up by 94K with this note from the NYT: According to turnout estimates, around 310,000 votes remain in counties won by Trump in 2016. Clinton 2016 counties have around 70,000 votes left to report. 32m ago. Trump won Maricopa county four years ago, and it's by far the largest county in AZ, and Trump isn't winning it this time, and he's extra not-winning mail ballots in it. The NYT note is decontextualized at best, disingenuous at worst.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:01
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Push El Burrito posted:President Biden sternly squinting at the NY prosecutors as they build their case. Remember when Pence when to the DMZ and squinted at North Korea and the media jizzed their pants?
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Nov 4, 2020 21:01
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tehinternet posted:WHAT THE gently caress It sounds to me like the "if there are no surprises" is the key. It's always possible that Trump ends up getting enough of the straggling mail-ins or provisionals or whatever. The states left (NV and AZ especially I think) may take a few more days to get a finalized count.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:02
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Gaius Marius posted:Glad someone here is learning. If every person posting on twitter was gone tomorrow the world would be an infinitely better place. There are certainly formal constraints of Twitter as a medium that make it susceptible to misinformation and out-of-context posting but there are very good posters on there.
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Insurrectum posted:I wonder how much the stink of a president defecting to Moscow would impact his cult of personality. CHUDs in North Dakota elected a Trump Republican who died of COVID last month to the house last night, so don't assume that there's much that can break their loyalty.
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Nov 4, 2020 21:03
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This may be a little too c-spam for D&D but lol if Trump were to pull out a win and then keels over to a heart attack on inauguration night.InfiniteZero posted:CHUDs in North Dakota elected a Trump Republican who died of COVID last month to the house last night, so don't assume that there's much that can break their loyalty. They're voting for the party as much as the candidate. If the Republican candidate dies its not like they'll vote democrat instead. They'll vote for the dead guy and wait for his Republican replacement. That doesn't seem that controversial in this case. Coredump fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 4, 2020 |
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FWIW MyBookie has Trump at +175 (betting a hundred bucks nets you an extra $175) and Biden at a quickly dwindling -290 (you have to bet $290 to earn $100). I'm still concerned about Nevada, but there's nothing anyone can do about it until the results come in, and I think people have made compelling cases for why Biden is favoured. Would have been nice to not have it come down to the wire like this.
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twitter is awesome but i can't imagine using it only to follow politics. i follow a ton of authors, esp POC authors, i've learned a poo poo ton more about indigenous issues (and I consider myself reasonably well-informed there), etc., etc. i super recommend taking advantage of twitter's lists function and classifying people you follow because it makes for a much better experience. tired of politics, turn off that list, etc.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:He can't pardon himself from state crimes. The second he's out of office the New York DA is coming for his rear end. Jack McCoy is coming back?!
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If Twitter died I'd have to go back to Tumblr for my art because I am too old for Instagram.
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Petey posted:There are certainly formal constraints of Twitter as a medium that make it susceptible to misinformation and out-of-context posting but there are very good posters on there. I'm sure there's some really thoughtful and concise graffiti on dumpsters out there, doesn't mean it's not on a dumpster.
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I love this video of Bernie basicallllyyy calling it play by play a week ago. I mean it's not a huge leap to get there, but drat it's perfect. https://twitter.com/hannahhycho/status/1323851835199811587
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Nov 4, 2020 21:05
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FlamingLiberal posted:I have to think MI gets called at any time I do wonder what's taking so long, he's up by more in both percentage gap and absolute number of votes compared to WI which has already been called. Maybe they're just waiting for the MI Sec of State to say "all the votes are counted"
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Petey posted:There are certainly formal constraints of Twitter as a medium that make it susceptible to misinformation and out-of-context posting ... Yes Petey posted:... but there are very good posters on there. Hard disagree
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:if you seriously believe this after the horrifying shifts in voter demographics last night you're completely loving delusional. dems have torpedoed their most reliable voter blocks in order to win some temporary votes from old white people who will go right back to voting for republicans once trump is out of office. they aren't winning poo poo in 2022. Again, the ACA is hugely popular. Red state voters voted to adopt the medicare expansions that their state legislatures didn't want. Tens of millions of people losing healthcare coverage isn't going to be ignored. A lot of voters may not blame Trump for COVID, but Trump and the Republican Senators who will be up in 2022 are directly responsible for people losing their healthcare. It is not like it just randomly gets struck down out of nowhere. Healthcare messaging worked. In 2018 it was the biggest issue by far, and voters overwhelmingly backed the Democrats on that issue. Something people don't get in this thread - a lot of voters voted against the Democrats on issues that are important to them. No one thinks they are going to lose their healthcare until it happens.
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berserker posted:I do wonder what's taking so long, he's up by more in both percentage gap and absolute number of votes compared to WI which has already been called. Maybe they're just waiting for the MI Sec of State to say "all the votes are counted" I have to imagine all of the SoS's right now are trying to be super secret triple double accurate. Like... nobody wants to be the one to gently caress this up.
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