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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Butter Hole posted:

This is true. People vote emotionally. We need the Obama of democratic socialism.

It's going to take more than that. This absolutely has to be done at a micro local level. You need people in communities reaching out to the people they know and convincing them on small granular levels. You can have a strong leader, but it's too easy to peg someone as a socialist and cause the lizard brain to take over.

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nah
Mar 16, 2009

Classon Ave. Robot posted:

I honestly can't understand why anyone would believe that "listen to the scientists" is the true line and that tweet is the lie.

Something tells me that you’ll just pick and choose which Biden statements are true and which are pandering based on your own preconceived notions

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Can someone put Stacey Abrams in charge of literally everything related to election strategy now?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Pick posted:

Today is the day the United States disavowed white supremacy.

Be honest Pick, is this just bait to get people to post legitimate criticism of the incoming administration and get probated?

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
/\ well yeah obviously

Pick posted:

Today is the day the United States disavowed white supremacy.

I hate to break this to you...

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



My neighbor with Trump signs (okay, all my neighbors have Trump signs) is firing off guns. I'm picturing him shedding a tear every time he pulls the trigger.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
In which AOC dismantles lovely Dem candidates and their failures (thread):

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324694301234921474

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324696270674530304

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324697710591619074

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324699605687242753

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324707177404207104

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1324709197079085056

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

Covok posted:

Actually, yes.

It also triggered a lot of other people in a kind of vicious cycle, and I really hope you reflect on that. You don't have to live with anxiety.

ummel
Jun 17, 2002

<3 Lowtax

Fun Shoe

Aidan_702 posted:

The most insane thing is that a good proportion of that 67 million think that they are not racist

Judging by my liberal friends. A solid chunk of the blue votes also think that good proportion are not racist.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


It's Pick you guys. Stop taking him/her seriously.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Pick posted:

Today is the day the United States disavowed white supremacy.

LOL no it's not. Do you actually believe this?

BonoMan posted:

Today is the day that the United States scrambled to try to put the mask back on.

Yeah, it's this.

Othin
Nov 20, 2002

Hair Elf

SexyBlindfold posted:

Today is the day the United States said Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and winked at white supremacy.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

Pick posted:

Today is the day the United States disavowed white supremacy.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Pick posted:

Biden would win or Trump. If y'all are honestly of the view that Trump winning would somehow horseshoe-logic be better for minorities, I cannot stress this enough, go outside.

I can't go outside, I'm in a red zone.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

Classon Ave. Robot posted:

I literally said multiple times that I thought it was likely that Biden would win. I even said it in this thread. What post are you referring to?

So you weren't with the consensus months ago, when people predicted that Joe Biden would be a blubbering mess getting trounced by Trump?

My point is that "honestly believing" what's going to happen in 2 or 4 years doesn't mean anything. The political instincts of everyone here, including me, are basically divination. With that being clarified, I'll move any of my further thoughts on it to the other threads.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Butter Hole posted:

This is true. People vote emotionally. We need the Obama of democratic socialism.

You need an Obama like figure that will draw people in, but also something in mainstream media that explains what democratic socialism is, and dispels all of the scary attacks against it (a Daily Show equivalent would be great).

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

pat_b posted:

I never understood the speaker thing; he was the only candidate aside from 2008 obama I actually found inspiring to listen to, but that might be because bernie's message resonated with me whereas no one else was even close.

I'm being a bit overly negative finally letting out my concerns retrospectively. I certainly found him inspiring at times, but I also distinctly recall coming away from one of the Hillary/Bernie debates really deflated.

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

ummel posted:

Judging by my liberal friends. A solid chunk of the blue votes also think that good proportion are not racist.

Its a problem of definition.

I'm would agree that a good proportion of those 67 million aren't explicitly prejudiced, which is what most non-academics or not very-online people think of when they use the term "racist." A good proportion of Trump's votes are just folks who like their taxes low and 401(k)s high, and don't really pay attention to politics more than that. They also don't examine or address any of their implicit biases or privileges. They resist any attempt to force them to do so. They are actively upholding a racist system and power dynamic. And that makes them racists. But thats because we define "racist" differently.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



My Twitter Account posted:

Why would they turn against him now?

Considering it would be the Secret Service and they haven't been his biggest fan for a while now, I'm sure they'll be lining up to "escort" him from the White House come January.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

AlternateNu posted:

That's only true in GA. Shut up, Covok.
The libertarian vote is larger than the gap between Trump and Biden, currently, in NV (by about a hundred votes), PA (by about 70k votes at the moment), and WI (by about 18k) as well.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1324598153740492800

good lord they're already trying to start with this poo poo

yes im aware joy ann reid does not encompass the entirety of centrist dems, but you gotta admit the turnaround is loving lmao

ummel
Jun 17, 2002

<3 Lowtax

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1324720750931058688?s=19

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Pick posted:

Biden would win or Trump. If y'all are honestly of the view that Trump winning would somehow horseshoe-logic be better for minorities, I cannot stress this enough, go outside.

I don't think anybody's saying that Trump winning would be better (at this moment anyway, I know occasionally some people say it though I don't agree). But trying to frame this as rejecting white supremacy is quite the stretch.

80s James Hetfield
Jan 20, 2004

METAL UP YOUR ASS
Joe Biden has won the presidency, close the thread.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
My favorite post on Facebook so far is a wife of a chud being unable to understand how mail-in-voting works. “I don’t get it, Trump had a lead and now they’re counting all these other votes?”

It’s like, yeah, you count votes. Maybe if Trump didn’t tell his followers to not do any mail in votes this wouldn’t have happened.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1324598153740492800

good lord they're already trying to start with this poo poo

yes im aware joy ann reid does not encompass the entirety of centrist dems, but you gotta admit the turnaround is loving lmao

I’m curious how Trump would actually feel about being labeled as a broke-brained failson, which is how I read what she’s saying.

Seems like it’d super piss him off.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

I’m here for Dan Rather shitposting

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

SubG posted:

The libertarian vote is larger than the gap between Trump and Biden, currently, in NV (by about a hundred votes), PA (by about 70k votes at the moment), and WI (by about 18k) as well.

Jo Jorgenson election observers in Philly during the count.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1324598153740492800

good lord they're already trying to start with this poo poo

yes im aware joy ann reid does not encompass the entirety of centrist dems, but you gotta admit the turnaround is loving lmao

biden's gonna pardon trump

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Random Stranger posted:

My neighbor with Trump signs (okay, all my neighbors have Trump signs) is firing off guns. I'm picturing him shedding a tear every time he pulls the trigger.

:911: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayCLE_ctpYg :911:

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Hey y'all today was the day Donald Trump became president.

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

Byzantine posted:

biden's gonna pardon trump

Maybe he would have, but Trump is instead going to pardon himself. And whether or not that is legally doable, it will take away any incentive or rationale for Biden to pardon Trump.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Byzantine posted:

biden's gonna pardon trump

Literally would not matter if he did, there's state charges waiting at the end of this for Trump

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
AOC is probably gonna be that charismatic leader. You can tell by the way the right wing propaganda machine has already started going after her (and how some leftists have too)

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1324598153740492800

good lord they're already trying to start with this poo poo

yes im aware joy ann reid does not encompass the entirety of centrist dems, but you gotta admit the turnaround is loving lmao

In the abstract, yeah, Trump's life story is pretty sad. Tough poo poo. He's still an adult and responsible for his actions.

A lot of criminals had terrible childhoods and sad life stories, too. "Not Guilty By Reason of Bad Parenting" isn't a valid plea.

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

80s James Hetfield posted:

Joe Biden has won the presidency, close the thread.

Let’s at least wait until the networks call it. You know Fox is going to be a sight to see.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006




https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324743941271506945

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Byzantine posted:

biden's gonna pardon trump

Maybe if Trump didn't go after Hunter Biden. He is not going to do that now.

I also don't expect Hunter Biden stuff to go away. The very first thing Graham will do in the next year is have the judicial committee open an investigation in the Hunter Biden laptop.

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Dump Trump 2020

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