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What is the actual reasoning behind "the democrat party" being some sort of dark magic hex taboo right-wing secret sign?
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Nov 9, 2020 01:07
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Somfin posted:What is the actual reasoning behind "the democrat party" being some sort of dark magic hex taboo right-wing secret sign?
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Nov 9, 2020 01:08
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Somfin posted:What is the actual reasoning behind "the democrat party" being some sort of dark magic hex taboo right-wing secret sign? The magic of True Names is ancient and powerful.
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Nov 9, 2020 01:12
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It has a long history of being used by conservatives to insult the dems, the same way intentionally not acknowledging anyone's self-identity is insulting. It's not a big deal imo, but Tubgoat's use here is an indication of the informational wrap around from the extreme right to anti-establishment left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
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Nov 9, 2020 01:16
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Chuds, leftists and liberals form a near-perfect rock-paper-scissors triangle, especially when you consider that a rock could gently caress up a piece of paper nearly as easily as scissors. That Lubchansky comic about the "window to criticise the right-wing democrat candidate" is a loving documentary. Edit: Really though, I use it because, as anyone paying even peripheral attention to American politics in the last 10 years can tell you, the "democratic" party is anything but. Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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Nov 9, 2020 01:22
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:It has a long history of being used by conservatives to insult the dems, the same way intentionally not acknowledging anyone's self-identity is insulting. It's not a big deal imo, but Tubgoat's use here is an indication of the informational wrap around from the extreme right to anti-establishment left. quote:Republican Pollster Frank Luntz tested the phrase with a focus group in 2001, and concluded that the only people who really disliked the epithet were highly partisan Democrats.[10] Political analyst Charlie Cook attributed modern use of the term to force of habit rather than a deliberate epithet by Republicans.[11] Journalist Ruth Marcus stated that Republicans likely only continue to employ the term because Democrats dislike it,[2] and Hertzberg calls use of the term "a minor irritation" and also "the partisan equivalent of flashing a gang sign". Sounds like a complete non-issue that hasn't had any real negative weight in nearly two decades 
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Nov 9, 2020 01:25
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Tubgoat posted:Edit: Really though, I use it because, as anyone paying even peripheral attention to American politics in the last 10 years can tell you, the "democratic" party is anything but. Do you honestly think anyone here was confused about that in the slightest? The only people who constantly have to point it out like you did are Republican virtue signallers.
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Nov 9, 2020 01:41
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it annoys insufferable partisans, that's why it's fun to use it
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Nov 9, 2020 01:41
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VitalSigns posted:it annoys insufferable partisans, that's why it's fun to use it
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Nov 9, 2020 01:42
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i'm going to call a major us political party the wrong name on purpose to really stick to those libs. they're gonna be so mad and i'm going to look so cool. lmao
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Nov 9, 2020 01:58
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Also I'm not mad. Please don't put in the paper that I got mad.
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Nov 9, 2020 02:00
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Somfin posted:Who's rereg is this, do we think? I can assure you this is a new guy, unfortunately
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Nov 9, 2020 02:10
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the point is that getting heated up over a d-tier insult from the clinton years that could just as easily be the result of someone typing lazily as deliberate malice, is pretty quaint in tyool 2020
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Nov 9, 2020 02:34
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^ ^ ^ Question about rereg was about another poster upthread. Pure loving  .Continuity RCP posted:I can assure you this is a new guy, unfortunately
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Nov 9, 2020 02:43
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Jazerus posted:the point is that getting heated up over a d-tier insult from the clinton years that could just as easily be the result of someone typing lazily as deliberate malice, is pretty quaint in tyool 2020 What's more offensive, democrat party or honky?
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Nov 9, 2020 03:28
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Who What Now posted:What's more offensive, democrat party or honky?
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Nov 9, 2020 03:33
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Who What Now posted:What's more offensive, democrat party or honky? it's 2020 one is a petty insult from the clinton era, and the other a word now mostly heard on reruns of The Jeffersons on nick at nite
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Nov 9, 2020 03:38
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My only complaint is that since the phrase "democrat party" was created and used solely by chuds, you do yourself a disservice by using it.
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Nov 9, 2020 07:33
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Golbez posted:My only complaint is that since the phrase "democrat party" was created and used solely by chuds, you do yourself a disservice by using it. Frankly, I'd say the party undemocratically pushing right-wing policies unwanted by its constituents is doing themselves a disservice, but it's clearly working out incredibly well for them.
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Nov 9, 2020 07:53
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I feel like SA used to probe ppl that contributed basic bitch zingers like 'rethuglican' or 'Mico$oft' or whatever. Maybe I'm mistaken.
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Nov 9, 2020 18:42
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those were actual insults, this is people melting down over grammar
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Nov 9, 2020 18:45
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It seems to have been intended as a zinger tho:Tubgoat posted:Edit: Really though, I use it because, as anyone paying even peripheral attention to American politics in the last 10 years can tell you, the "democratic" party is anything but. Perhaps a case of independent development, where someone else has re-invented the same lame insult for the modern era.
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Nov 9, 2020 19:37
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VitalSigns posted:it annoys insufferable partisans, that's why it's fun to use it Tubgoat posted:This is the correct answer, sailor. Ah, so "owning the libs by adopting the language of the right"?
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Nov 9, 2020 20:51
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I would only personally object to that if the language is wrong. Or if it conveys some objectionable concept. Which the undemocraticness of the democratic party doesn't really seem to be an example of either? Like if you're adopting right wing racial slurs that's bad because it's, well, just bad, it is a bad thing. But if making an actual objection just annoys people because they take criticisms of a party to be a criticism of their personal identity then... that seems kinda like the fault lies with them?
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Nov 9, 2020 20:54
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Hello Sailor posted:Ah, so "owning the libs by adopting the language of the right"? Please, keep going with this thought, it feels like you wrote it and then your thinking just stopped. E: I'm currently a soft-Anarcho hard-Syndicalist, so complaints about the words "the democrat party" feel like they're also "the language of the right" from where my politics leave me standing. Somfin fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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Nov 9, 2020 22:08
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Can we all please just agree to just use the neutral, accurately descriptive term 'Demonrat'??
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Nov 9, 2020 22:13
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Hello Sailor posted:Ah, so "owning the libs by adopting the language of the right"? The language of the right from like 40 years ago. It's the equivalent of getting called a jive turkey
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Nov 9, 2020 22:52
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Who What Now posted:The language of the right from like 40 years ago. It's the equivalent of getting called a jive turkey First use was back in 1790. First use as an epithet against the party was 1860. Primary growth in use was in the 1940s, which is 70 to 80 years ago now.
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Nov 9, 2020 22:58
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Ye olde jiveth turkey fowl
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Nov 10, 2020 00:08
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Tubgoat posted:Adding to that, the d*mocr*t party had the greens removed from the ballot in more than one state. Anyway now that I've censored the Bad Word can we get back to the part where team blue deliberately tried to get the greens off the ballot, succeeding in a few places, thus likely sabotaging their own downballot votes?
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Nov 10, 2020 20:27
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Somfin posted:Anyway now that I've censored the Bad Word can we get back to the part where team blue deliberately tried to get the greens off the ballot, succeeding in a few places, thus likely sabotaging their own downballot votes? Yeah that was dumb.
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Nov 10, 2020 22:06
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Somfin posted:Anyway now that I've censored the Bad Word can we get back to the part where team blue deliberately tried to get the greens off the ballot, succeeding in a few places, thus likely sabotaging their own downballot votes? What does that have to do with the libertarian thread?
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Nov 11, 2020 00:08
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GreyjoyBastard posted:What does that have to do with the libertarian thread? It was brought up re: third-party Libertarian voters changing the outcome of the election, whether or not those were protest votes, and whether or not those were protest votes that were inflated and would have been Green party votes if not for the removal of the Green party from the ballot. The discussion can be found by following the trail of quoted posts, it's not particularly out of the scope of the thread, particularly since, in the most recent election, there were several states that were flipped by a margin that is smaller than the third-party vote, of which the Libertarians took the vast majority.
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Nov 11, 2020 00:29
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Yes, consider that point circled back to. Well done.
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Nov 11, 2020 01:07
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Sax Solo posted:Yes, consider that point circled back to. Well done. As was directly requested by a moderator.
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Nov 11, 2020 01:20
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Somfin posted:As was directly requested by a moderator. 
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Nov 11, 2020 02:11
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Golbez posted:Yeah that was dumb. Welp, they loving succeeded (in beating Bernie). I have yet to talk to a Trump voter that really had any problems with Bernie. Perhaps the actual nazi ones don't travel alone in public. The ones who aren't all-in for the racism are just wholly disgusted with being given a choice between a quarter pounder poo poo patty or a liquid shitshake once again when there was a politician available who actually promised good things. Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Nov 11, 2020 02:39
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Tubgoat posted:It was only dumb if you take them at their word that they were trying to beat Trump and not Bernie. Look, this thread is for dunking on libertarians, so I'm going to need you phrase that in the form of a "freedom".
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Nov 11, 2020 02:55
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Look, this thread is for dunking on libertarians, so I'm going to need you phrase that in the form of a "freedom". Freedom to choose our representatives? Isn't democracy supposed to be about freedom? That's what I was told growing up. It's a shame libertarian went from meaning "Definitely-not-an-anarcho-socialist-wink-wink" to "Definitely-not-a-pedophile-wink-wink". If anyone creates a work of fiction with a character named Ma Freezepeach, I want a credit somewhere.
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Nov 11, 2020 03:43
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In Re: Libertarian Election, I have a question to you amis: The first time I heard about the US Libertarian party was from people complaining that they were stealing votes from the democratic party. When bill clinton was still running. Now it seem established that they are closest to the republicans. Does anybody know why and when that changed. I am mostly interested in the public perception, less in their actual policies.
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