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Yeah, she'd have to be pretty far from home to run into those kind of hills on a freeway. I went to school in Southern Oregon and my wife (gf at the time) drove an early 90s Ford Tempo and then a 96 Toyota Paseo. I definitely know the routine but I can't think of anywhere close by that would make you do that on the freeway. I wouldn't let her go long distance without an adult unless and until I felt comfortable that she could do that, and even then she would probably be driving a newer car of ours or her grandparents on a longer trip.
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There are not hardware limitations on God's green earth that can prevent a teen driver from doing stupid poo poo, and you want them to be in something where they won't possibly die or be severely injured in a 30 mph crash.
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Driving slowly through a college campus a few years ago a Volvo sedan was coming the opposite way that I paid no attention to cause it was just a normal car slowly cruising, I dunno 15 or 20 mph or so. I slowed down and looked right to turn at a T intersection, looked back and I have no idea how in the gently caress but that car was upside down - when we stopped and got out the college kid looking driver had already climbed out unscathed. Only guess I could come up with was messing with phone/radio, maybe slipped and tapped the gas hard and turned into the curb and bounced up it and off a power pole there in the unluckiest Final Destination of angles, but that's gonna stick with me real hard when it comes to vehicle selection when my kids get older thinking about modern crumple zones and air bags and all.
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My mom and older brother still have some facial scarring in the exact shape of parts of the interior of a Karmann Ghia some thirty years after the fact after what was basically a fender bender.
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"Cool" or not, I'd say front seat airbags are a basic non-negotiable factor for a young driver. Which leads to... Miata. meatpimp fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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Nov 9, 2020 19:22
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meatpimp posted:"Cool" or not, I'd say front seat airbags are a basic non-negotiable factor for a young driver. ABS for sure. Of course you can teach someone to pump the brakes and avoid lockup but when poo poo goes down you want the system working with people's instincts not against them. Hell, I'd add stability control in to the mix as well. I think I'd draw the line at roughly 2010. Lots of materials advances right at that time for passive safety, a lot more active safety stuff as well.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:ABS for sure. Of course you can teach someone to pump the brakes and avoid lockup but when poo poo goes down you want the system working with people's instincts not against them. Hell, I'd add stability control in to the mix as well. I could see adding abs to an older car. I don't even own a car newer than 2010. Edit: Maybe I should be looking towards some larger American vehicles though lake a square body truck or something. therobit fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 9, 2020 |
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Nov 9, 2020 20:08
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https://twitter.com/ItsMcMikeTime/status/1296799111052767232 This is the sort of thing I'd worry more about than being underpowered while driving a beetle in modern traffic.
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therobit posted:Edit: Maybe I should be looking towards some larger American vehicles though lake a square body truck or something. not better
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quit tryin to buy your kid death machines to satisfy some weird emotional void
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I mean if your standard for death machine is anything pre-2010 then my whole family will be buying death machines for at least the next 10-15 years. I don't buy new cars and I don't take out credit to buy cars, so my options are limited to what I can buy cash.
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I wouldn’t recommend a beetle for a new driver. This may not be the most popular opinion in the VW thread, but if you want something older and relatively simple to work on (and plenty of available parts) but also safe, look for a Volvo 240.
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Why not stick with a Golf? They are everywhere and have been around for decades. Get a Mk 5 or something.
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therobit posted:My daughter will be 12 in about a year. My wife has decided that I should restore an old/classic car with her to be ready when she's 16. I can do basic mechanical tasks like changing oils, spark plugs, valve cover gaskets, change out a radiator, but I have little experience with engine internals. The idea here is to have a project here for father-daighter time, end up with a cool car, and teach her basic car repair and maintenance along the way. My father in law has some auto body experience and all the tools to repair and paint panels, although I would ideally start with something where ther is nothing completely rusted through in the visible parts of the car. This is loving cool as hell as an idea and I wish my pops had done the same for me. I love it, however... KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:This sounds like a super cool project and a nice way to potentially bond with your daughter, but first of all, is she interested in this type of stuff? Is this something that she wants? If it isn't, this project could be something that breeds resentment rather than bonding. This was definitely my first reaction, which leads me to this maybe? empty baggie posted:I wouldn’t recommend a beetle for a new driver. This may not be the most popular opinion in the VW thread, but if you want something older and relatively simple to work on (and plenty of available parts) but also safe, look for a Volvo 240. But maybe it's just because I am a super weirdo but I find older Volvo's amazing. Also extremely partial to the mk5 rabbit/GTI idea (my first car was one and I think they are rad, but I am not sure if something that modern really works for the idea of a project to build and have at 16)
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A Volvo 240 is not a safe car in the year of our lord 2020, christ you guys. Even the very newest 240 is over 27 years old now. The oldest ones are over 45 years old. Safer than an equivalent era VW, no doubt, but by any measure today absolutely not. Most 240s do not have any airbags. A driver-only airbag was added in 1990, and production ended in 92/93. It's also 30+ year old airbag technology. It may have been a safety icon in the 1980s but that was a very very long time ago, when most cars were horrible death traps. The bar was very low. Guinness fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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There are two ideas here that are trying to be unified which are fundamentally not compatible in a single vehicle which are: 1) Putting your kid in the safest death machine you can reasonably afford when they start going out and loving just like, crashing in to poo poo. 2) having a fun project car with your kid these are both good ideas. it's very difficult for them to be the same car.
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How come we all care more about the safety of this guy's kid than he does. If it's good enough for him it's good enough for me!! I like the Mk.5 Golf idea, or like what about an E36 BMW now that those are also hard to find and expensive? Restoring an old cool car with my dad sounds like a fun experience, altho my dad actually had a '72 VW Superbug when I was growing up and I never liked it idk why - he ended up paying someone to restore it rather than doing it himself and now its lost to history.
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therobit posted:I mean if your standard for death machine is anything pre-2010 then my whole family will be buying death machines for at least the next 10-15 years. I don't buy new cars and I don't take out credit to buy cars, so my options are limited to what I can buy cash. There's a lot of space between "New 2020 Volvo" and "1970s Beetle." How about like, a 2009 Corolla or RAV4?
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I love that a car of the current era of my car (mk5 GTI) is being offered as a suggestion for a classic car for him to work on with a kid. I think there's a massive disconnect in the idea here, modern cars just straight up are not fun to work on when they have issues and trying to work on the internals of a modern engine when he's never done it before is going to be a huge roadblock. I understand the safety concerns but I don't think it's possible to satisfy the requirements of a highly safe car with one that also someone is going to want to work on/be affordable.
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VelociBacon posted:I understand the safety concerns but I don't think it's possible to satisfy the requirements of a highly safe car with one that also someone is going to want to work on/be affordable. exactly, i love the idea of restoring a car provided the kid is in to it, which it sounds like she is! and its probably great for her to drive and enjoy as well in a supervised way flightless greeb posted:How come we all care more about the safety of this guy's kid than he does. If it's good enough for him it's good enough for me!! yeah i mean fundamentally it is OPs decision here but i am a bit surprised by the assessment of risk
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You also might be overestimating how much driving of said vehicle she would be doing. Any kind of long haul trip and she's gonna be in whatever the best car for one of us to lend her is unless an adult is with her. Also in Oregon 16 year olds are not allowed to drive with friiends in the car or after certain hours. I'm not gonna give her a car and say "Good luck and be home by the time I wake up!" It will be a gradual release as with any additional responsibility I give my kids. School won't be more than a couple miles away, there's no freeway driving to go most places around town from here, etc. therobit fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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therobit posted:School won't be more than a couple miles away, there's no freeway driving to go most places around town from here, etc. Don't mean to pile on, but one thing I learned while getting my motorcycle license is that freeways are way safer than surface streets. On one hand, there is a lot more energy involved should something happen. On the other hand, you are on a divided road way with (generally) good lines of sight, all the traffic moving in the same direction, no stop lights, and no vehicles crossing your direction of travel. On surface streets, you gotta deal with people turning left in front of you, coming in from side streets, failing to stop or running reds at intersections. Granted, on a motorcycle, you have zero protection and every "interaction" is highly dangerous, so prevention of an accident is the most important thing.
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I think that old car refurbished with care + teen driver who's been to a defensive driving school + owner who puts seasonally appropriate tires on the car + actual attention to tread depth all adds up to at least the 60th percentile of road safety. Sure, you could do better, but it's hardly irresponsible behavior.
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Get a cheap donor '98-'10 "New Beetle" and the Smyth pickup kit and have at it. A $1,000 bug is likely going to need a host of things to get roadworthy, but they're a mk4 Golf at heart so they're nothing insanely complicated. https://www.smythkitcars.com/
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I did something dumb today and hosed up my 2010 Jetta’s turn signal cover on the passenger side mirror. https://imgur.com/gallery/2YdJlyS Here’s the passenger side compared to driver’s side so you can see it’s now missing. Any recommendations on a site to buy a replacement? Is this something that I, a dumbass when it comes to cars, can just pop back in there or will I need to take it somewhere? Also is it one of those deals where moisture is going to get in there and gently caress it up?
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ECS Tuning has some, but they seem a bit expensive? Looks like it's the whole assembly, not just the cover. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-volkswagen-audi-parts/mirror-mounted-turn-signal-lens-right/1k5949102/ Doesn't seem that bad to replace, but lots of small clips that can break. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1C9jkP1gI EDIT: put that part number into Amazon and got a listing for half that price. EDIT2: Double check my link! It seems like there are two versions for the MKV Jetta, so make sure it's for the correct year. Uthor fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 14, 2020 |
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Uthor posted:ECS Tuning has some, but they seem a bit expensive? Looks like it's the whole assembly, not just the cover. Yup, did it on my Rabbit, was about a 45 minute job being super careful not to snap anything. Look around on eBay as well, there’s a handful of VW dealers selling VW parts directly.
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I got smoked ones for my JSW on eBay for like 25 bucks.
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I found the exhaust leak on my jetta. I think this was put on in 2013. I replaced the muffler myself last year and assumed my questionable work had come loose, but no, it's the shop's questionable work. I think I can save the cat and resonator if I can double butt join this piece of poo poo, but that's a good 5 1/2 inches to cut out. Why use stainless when regular steel is so cheap?!?!
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Are you sure that isn’t factory? My 2010 GTI had a similar connector that eventually rusted out, I think I found a replacement for less than $20 https://parts.vw.com/p/Volkswagen__GTI/Clamp-Pipe-Muffler-Front--Rear/48126313/1K0253141N.html
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DrChu posted:Are you sure that isn’t factory? My 2010 GTI had a similar connector that eventually rusted out, I think I found a replacement for less than $20 Yeah, the whole thing was replaced due to a bad flex pipe and other bits around 7 years back. The car is a 2003 and I think the factory one was what got replaced. Those clamps are pretty normal, I got one with my replacement muffler but didn't use it since it's not stainless. Also the aluminized steel does hold up okay, it just seems that anywhere with steel clamps or welds will rot out. When I got the muffler the replacement stainless one was like $180 vs. 150 for the aluminized steel so I went with that. I then used some stainless clamps and I've since found that some of their hardware wasn't stainless, so I guess you're just really hosed over if you want longevity from an exhaust. I should have the stuff in to fix it on Wednesday, though. Rexxed fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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Is a 2019 golf alltrack with the panoramic roof gonna be the ninthish worst mistake of my life? I’ve heard conflicting things about the reliability of it depending on model year, recalls, etc. The one I’m considering would still have a nearly seven year warranty too.
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i own a 2019 S, no roof, and deliberately chose it to avoid the roof. i love a good glass roof but avoided it in the end for a few reasons. 1) the problems with the roof did not seem to be related to normal drains-type problems, but seemed to potentially be structural where the roof seal was coming unseated from the body of the car due to twisting motions. therefore, although it could be fixed, fixing it did not solve the root cause. 2) in general, water ingress problems are difficult to diagnose and fix, so even if the car is under warranty it will still sit at the dealership for a long time 3) unless the headliner is replaced ($), it's very obvious that there were ingress problems and this will destroy value of the car in the used market 4) stepping up to the SE cost like five grand more as all of them had larger wheel package. it seemed like a lot to pay roughly 22% more for the car in order to get the roof and automatic climate control since i didn't give a poo poo about any of the other things and actively did not want the wheels.
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I had chance to drive my old B8.5 S4 today. It's weird but it felt faster than my current B9 S5. I think it's because the throttle response was instantaneous with the DSG and 3.0 supercharged V6. With the ZF 8 speed on the new 3.0 turbo V6 Audi programmed in a slight delay so it takes about a 1/2 a second for anything to happen when you press the gas. Also the stock exhaust seemed a bit louder on the S4.
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Mr. Apollo posted:I had chance to drive my old B8.5 S4 today. It's weird but it felt faster than my current B9 S5. I think it's because the throttle response was instantaneous with the DSG and 3.0 supercharged V6. With the ZF 8 speed on the new 3.0 turbo V6 Audi programmed in a slight delay so it takes about a 1/2 a second for anything to happen when you press the gas. Also the stock exhaust seemed a bit louder on the S4. ThanksObama I forget who I was listening to explain that it's something about emissions/noise tests and how it's like triggering full throttle from a 30 roll or something for a set amount of second and measuring noise. The anecdote was that a model S failed because of road noise due to how much acceleration it could get in that time span.
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Well thread, my 2015 S3 decided to have trouble starting beginning last night. It gives a couple tries, and usually fails with either Pre-Sense System Fault or a TPMS error on the dash, though a few others have showed up. The infotainment comes up fine though. I had marginally more success starting it from neutral. As of today the touch unlock doesn't seem to be working reliably either. No codes of note when I pulled them. Anyone want to take bets on the cause? Going to the dealer monday because I have minimal ability to work on it (no multimeter, etc) E: my hope is the battery just undervolting things and getting all kinds of weird failures
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Mr. Apollo posted:I had chance to drive my old B8.5 S4 today. It's weird but it felt faster than my current B9 S5. I think it's because the throttle response was instantaneous with the DSG and 3.0 supercharged V6. With the ZF 8 speed on the new 3.0 turbo V6 Audi programmed in a slight delay so it takes about a 1/2 a second for anything to happen when you press the gas. Also the stock exhaust seemed a bit louder on the S4. Yes the difference is night and day. I sidegraded from a B9 S4 to a C7.5 A6 and I ended up buying out the A6 as that powertrain is a keeper. Even with the extra weight of the A6, the supercharged 3.0 is just so immediate. It must have pained the engineers to have to program that lag into the B9.
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A Man With A Plan posted:E: my hope is the battery just undervolting things and getting all kinds of weird failures Probably this.
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A Man With A Plan posted:Well thread, my 2015 S3 decided to have trouble starting beginning last night. It gives a couple tries, and usually fails with either Pre-Sense System Fault or a TPMS error on the dash, though a few others have showed up. The infotainment comes up fine though. I had marginally more success starting it from neutral. As of today the touch unlock doesn't seem to be working reliably either. No codes of note when I pulled them. Anyone want to take bets on the cause? Going to the dealer monday because I have minimal ability to work on it (no multimeter, etc) Yup first place to start is the battery, so many gremlins can be summoned on these cars by a flaking out battery.
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