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I mean they were competing with Bill "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it" Cosby
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womb with a view posted:I watched a clip from the casino episode where Lisa is crying over her lovely costume, and Homer tears up in empathy then wipes it away as he resolves to get Marge back. Just such a little detail that you'd take for granted, he's upset because his daughter is sad and he cares about her. It felt like they were a family even if Homer was sometimes crappy at it. And he snatched Marge from Gamblor's neon claws!
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That always felt like an acknowledgement of it being a wacky cartoon more than trying to go with the realistic family dynamics angle. I mean I don't think it really fit beyond the weirdass tone of season 1 so I'm not sure why they kept it around, but I guess it was supposed to be more like Fred Flintstone getting hit on the head by a bowling ball than anything.
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Nov 18, 2020 15:20
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Iron Crowned posted:And he snatched Marge from Gamblor's neon claws! YURGIDDAFURDARATAARA.
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Nov 18, 2020 15:22
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bus hustler posted:I think in some levels the gag has to be seen as the evolution of the "why I aughta" and "one of these days, pow!" family TV sitcom gag (which is also a bad gag) and not seen from modern sensibilities as someone deciding "ha ha child abuse is funny." It was very much "this isn't your parents family sitcom!" as much as anything else Which is why it aged poorly. But on top of that, it was never particularly funny. Even as a young rebellious kid it elicited a little more eyeroll than laugh.
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Nov 18, 2020 15:22
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Iron Crowned posted:And he snatched Marge from Gamblor's neon claws! There's the bit where Homer says Maggie laughed too that maybe cinches it. I feel like there's a real solid point where you should at least try to be as good a parent as Homer Simpson, because if you're not then you've really hosed up.
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Nov 18, 2020 15:40
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There's the bit where Homer says Maggie laughed too that maybe cinches it. It's been a minute, but thinking about it, that episode is essentially the old sitcom plot where the mother of the family decides she's not appreciated and fucks off to parts unknown, while everyone learns how she holds everything together. I guess the big difference is Marge got addicted to gambling instead of being pissed off about something they all do, and gives the rest of the family a reason to fight for her.
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Nov 18, 2020 16:15
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ikanreed posted:Which is why it aged poorly. Yeah agreed, it was never really shocking to me as that same rebellious kid, but at the same time wasn’t funny or interesting. It felt like a leftover from the extremely early Tracy Ullman show stuff. There was nothing particularly funny about it, not even the “why you little”, which to me sounds like a “don’t have a cow man” type of forced meme line.
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Nov 18, 2020 16:27
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Iron Crowned posted:It's been a minute, but thinking about it, that episode is essentially the old sitcom plot where the mother of the family decides she's not appreciated and fucks off to parts unknown, while everyone learns how she holds everything together. I guess the big difference is Marge got addicted to gambling instead of being pissed off about something they all do, and gives the rest of the family a reason to fight for her. They did that with the Rancho Relaxo episode and it was also delightful.
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Nov 18, 2020 16:33
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Hyrax Attack! posted:They did that with the Rancho Relaxo episode and it was also delightful. Flintstones Chewable Morphine
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Nov 18, 2020 16:35
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ikanreed posted:I've been thinking about how the lowest point of good Simpsons was the extremely violent child abuse played as a joke In the classic years it was always so quick and cartoony enough that I never really gave it much thought. As with everything else on the show Al Jean has completely ruined it. Not only did they start doing it more frequently, but nowadays they'll have any little thing set Homer off and then linger on it for an extended period of time. Sometimes they'll really call attention to how hosed up it is by having Bart pass out from it or complain about how it hurts to swallow. They also started doing gags about poo poo like Homer throwing folding chairs at Bart or hitting him with a hammer.
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Nov 18, 2020 16:35
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I wonder what the cutoff will be that makes the show finally stop, as the remaining showrunners/writers won't stop the mediocre gravy train voluntarily. My best guess is 76 year old Harry Shearer walks, followed by Julie Kavner.
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J-Spot posted:In the classic years it was always so quick and cartoony enough that I never really gave it much thought. As with everything else on the show Al Jean has completely ruined it. Not only did they start doing it more frequently, but nowadays they'll have any little thing set Homer off and then linger on it for an extended period of time. Sometimes they'll really call attention to how hosed up it is by having Bart pass out from it or complain about how it hurts to swallow. They also started doing gags about poo poo like Homer throwing folding chairs at Bart or hitting him with a hammer. Wait they're still doing it? It's surprising to me that they haven't dropped that whole thing, huh.
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Code Jockey posted:Wait they're still doing it? It's surprising to me that they haven't dropped that whole thing, huh. When it comes up in recent years, it's almost always a joke about how hosed up it is or it's done in one of their lazy "3 Bible stories starring the Simpsons!" episodes. Like the writers go: "Hmmmm, what would Homer strangling Bart look like if it were written by HG Wells?"
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the thing that made me break my streak of watching every new one was the gorillas coming out of the gem mine
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Greg12 posted:the thing that made me break my streak of watching every new one was the gorillas coming out of the gem mine It's a real bad episode. What even was the first "The Simpsons are going to ___!" episode? Maybe the Australia one? Which while not one of my favourites still seems light years away from the Africa, London, Brazil, etc episodes.
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Nov 18, 2020 23:26
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ikanreed posted:Which is why it aged poorly. You really were critiquing the Simpson's enough to eye roll at it as a kid? A rebellious kid??
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What's the worst "Simpsons go to a place" episode anyway? Italy was singularly terrible, but Boston was ridiculously boring and Bart's weird obsession with "southies" really bugged me.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Of course we have a Springfield angry mob, Sideshow Mel yelling, and the Yeardley Smith cameo stops the ep dead. Like when Stephen King showed up in Sons of Anarchy to signal it was time to stop watching. counterpoint: that King cameo was the only part worth watching The Moon Monster posted:What's the worst "Simpsons go to a place" episode anyway? "The Simpsons are Going to Delaware!" was a loving great gag ruined by them actually doing it
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Nov 19, 2020 02:21
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Like they thought the Wayne’s World joke left money on the table
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The Moon Monster posted:What's the worst "Simpsons go to a place" episode anyway? Italy was singularly terrible, but Boston was ridiculously boring and Bart's weird obsession with "southies" really bugged me. ugh do they describe people as "southies"? Southie is the name of the place, not someone from there
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Hedgehog Pie posted:It's a real bad episode. The Japan one was pretty awful
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The Moon Monster posted:What's the worst "Simpsons go to a place" episode anyway? Italy was singularly terrible, but Boston was ridiculously boring and Bart's weird obsession with "southies" really bugged me. The one where they go to Jerusalem is considered particularly bad by the die-hard fans, although I can't really remember anything that happened in it. I've always really hated the Brazil one.
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PostNouveau posted:The Japan one was pretty awful Nah the japan one while a weaker episode has some good gags. I’ll never not laugh at the hello kitty factory gag.
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PostNouveau posted:The Japan one was pretty awful Mmm... no      
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Nov 19, 2020 05:15
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Greg12 posted:the thing that made me break my streak of watching every new one was the gorillas coming out of the gem mine Yeah I hadn't watched for years and I figured I'd check it out and what aired that particular Sunday? The loving Africa episode. Nope.
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Nov 19, 2020 05:49
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Not defend bad Simpsons, but isn't that a reference to Congo the movie/book and not some kind of weird racist thing
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I also want to say that in the 90s physically disciplining your kids was acceptable. I mean, not strangulation, but it's a cartoon so it's excessive about something that was common. Hell someone linked a news article from this year where some psychologist was all "people call it abuse these days but we used to call that a well-meaning but frazzled dad, it's the exact same behaviour so maybe kids these days are snowflakes". From this year. But yeah it hasn't aged well in any case and the fact it's not only still played for laughs but deliberately called out in being continued with by the writers is.... a bit yikes.
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runnypoops posted:bart misbehaves allot WHY YOU LITTLE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI12YxqWp0A Looks like the Simpsons went to Cuba to get care for Grandpa, much like when the Simpsons went to Canada to get drugs for Grandpa, and the time the Simpsons went to Denmark to get healthcare for Grandpa
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ikanreed posted:Haha, now I get it. An adult man is strangling a 9 year old, but it's funny because he deserves it! You sound like a little bitch to be honest (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bandaid.friend posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI12YxqWp0A "I'll never understand why a band leader was such good friends with his landlord" I may be missing something but Homer has a point.
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Nov 19, 2020 11:21
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Did Michael Moore then show up.
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J-Spot posted:The one where they go to Jerusalem is considered particularly bad by the die-hard fans, although I can't really remember anything that happened in it. I've always really hated the Brazil one. I vaguely remember Bart shouting "karate!" and an Israeli girl shouting "krav maga!" which was pretty bad.
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The London episode is absolute dogshit and is just a cavalcade of awful celebrity cameos at their worst. There was one cameo that was just someone waving at the plane that wasn't even a joke and it's the first time I remember getting legit annoyed at how lazy and bad the show had become. Also I had no idea there was an episode where they went to Denmark, I'm vaguely curious... Edit: quote:Marge and Lisa are fascinated by their culture, while Bart and Homer make fun of it Classic 
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Nov 19, 2020 13:19
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The Ireland ep is horrific, as is pretty much every time Ireland has ever been mentioned in the show Possible exception for Burns' laughing at his memory of the crippled Irishman
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Nov 19, 2020 13:47
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Failed Imagineer posted:The Ireland ep is horrific, as is pretty much every time Ireland has ever been mentioned in the show that's a classic swartzwelder Gilded Age in the USA joke
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Greg12 posted:that's a classic swartzwelder Gilded Age in the USA joke If only they'd listened to Swartzwelder, rather than walling him up in an abandoned coke-oven
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