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Raskolnikov38 posted:gustav gassner did I thought Lysenko was the first to actually create a process by which the seeds could be used
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GunnerJ posted:What was the actual deal with Lysenko? he was trying to workshop biology to work under dialectical materialism and Stalin really liked him when most other scientists were quite rightfully against him that's the short, of course; it goes far wilder than that because Lysenko came from a peasant family and without the Revolution could never have studied biology, so he was indeed a full-on ideologue and believer of red dogma to his detriment; he was very loyal to Stalin and other scientists denouncing his irresponsibility were deemed traitors; I do recall having read somewhere that the hardcore Marxists in the biology/agrarian scientists wrote him a complete takedown on his rear end denouncing he was no better than prejudiced Western scientists when he preferred to ignore reality in favor of his own ideological take, which really loving depressed him
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Atrocious Joe posted:a bunch of people based in the UK I followed who were decent about examining imperialism all went off the COVID deep end. I assume there's something in the water. Beeley has some good coverage on Syria and the White Helmets hoax, but yeah, the COVID takes are bad, and it intersects with Whitney Webb, who retweets her on the reg. I think a big part of it is that these people (at least, Beeley and Webb, I'm not familiar with the others you posted) are genuinely and rightly concerned about (Western) governments and corporations using the pandemic as an excuse to implement more and more authoritarian control mechanisms - and it's true as far as they are indeed doing that. Just look at how so much of academia has shifted towards Zoom meetings to hold discussions... but then what happens when Zoom decides it doesn't want to let you host your talk on Palestine because it's """anti-semitic"""? What happens is that you take that, and you combine it with all of these hatched government plans like Operation Dark Winter, and you combine it with the also technically correct take that a lot of these problems aren't even something that requires a pandemic, and end up in the rabbit-hole of not really believing that COVID is "real", because in all of the contradictions and hypocrisies of our capitalist state and corporatist media, it's all handled and talked about so inconsistently.
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Isa Blum was on Radio War Nerd to talk about Yemen a few years back. OffGuardian started to criticize the Guardian for their turn towards intelligence agencies. I think the left denialism of COVID is a bigger deal in the UK, because unlike the US, they have expanded their social safety net a bit to deal with the crisis. Also, plenty of cities in the US saw what a real politically motivated lock down looks like this summer thanks to the uprisings after George Floyd's death. After seeing the national guard set up checkpoints around city centers, it's hard to get worried about restaurant restrictions. The deadly tyranny most people in the US are facing right now is from employers putting people in dangerous situations and landlords kicking people to the street. Yes, the state is the ultimate force that backs up that class, but focusing on the wrong mechanisms of control is still a mistake.
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Victory Position posted:what is the proper leftist way of saying "open 'er up" 
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if you want viral pneumonia i will spit in ur face It's called praxis sweety
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i'm posting this here because I have no loving idea where else it would go https://twitter.com/kngiz/status/1328830987623686144
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Raskolnikov38 posted:gustav gassner did thats one hell of a kraut name
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Goast posted:thats one hell of a kraut name lol
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dead gay comedy forums posted:he was trying to workshop biology to work under dialectical materialism and Stalin really liked him when most other scientists were quite rightfully against him Any leads on where to find this critique? The Wikipedia page for him refers to the denunciation but the citation is in a book published in 1986. I wouldn't be surprised if a translated version of it is around somewhere on the internet Anyways he was a real monster, he used his favored position under Stalin to get his rivals killed as enemies of the state. However, as an academic scientist, somehow it's his doctoring of his results that most personally offends me
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this loving memoir makes him sound like a bonafide psychopath. fair play.
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Mr. Lobe posted:Any leads on where to find this critique? The Wikipedia page for him refers to the denunciation but the citation is in a book published in 1986. I wouldn't be surprised if a translated version of it is around somewhere on the internet I have been looking for it myself! I came across references to it in other stuff, but never read the thing 
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dex_sda posted:this loving memoir makes him sound like a bonafide psychopath. fair play. the cool sociopath robot who cant figure out why pseudo intellectualism didnt get him pussy
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it reads more as "the woman respecter" virtue signaling to me.
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Peel posted:if anyone remembers phil greaves he's not had a good plague year this does point to a genuine problem with self-conscious materialist ontologies and empirical work - the temptation to make the results fit the ontology, or to just use the ontology itself to dismiss theories whole-clothe the alternative in bourgeois science, where we just pretend everybody is ontologically neutral from the start, isn't any better tho. dunno how to fix it. science is hard
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I’m glad the Marxist ladies recognized Obama as the opportunist he is and denied him poon. And that’s why you read theory
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Rated PG-34 posted:I’m glad the Marxist ladies recognized Obama as the opportunist he is and denied him poon. And that’s why you read theory
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Rated PG-34 posted:I’m glad the Marxist ladies recognized Obama as the opportunist he is and denied him poon. And that’s why you read theory
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i hate obama lol
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Finicums Wake posted:i hate obama lol he is a piece of poo poo
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obama saw the youth and excitement of his election in 2008 and has dedicated the rest of his life to crushing it i'd say i wish he could get better, but frankly there's a limit to the number of liquidfied orphans you can make before you stop counting as morally redeemable
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Rated PG-34 posted:I’m glad the Marxist ladies recognized Obama as the opportunist he is and denied him poon. And that’s why you read theory
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wait so obama made it his life’s mission to crush the left because he couldn’t get laid in college? what a fuckin dork
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someone would be passing a joint in a circle and obama would go "interception" and take it out of turn. this is one type of liberalism
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Barack "The Incel Shock Superbad" Obama
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Finicums Wake posted:someone would be passing a joint in a circle and obama would go "interception" and take it out of turn. this is one type of liberalism
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obama apparently dumped at least one girlfriend because she wasn't black and he figured that this would be a liability to his political career
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what im saying is that the evidence is in and the dude's a loving sociopath
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gradenko_2000 posted:Barack "The Incel Shock Superbad" Obama
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as we all buy Obama's memoirs to read it for some sick owns, are we not, in turn, ourselves, as he makes that money, Obama?
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et tu, Baquacke?
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gradenko_2000 posted:as we all buy Obama's memoirs to read it for some sick owns, are we not, in turn, ourselves, as he makes that money, Obama? im gunna download that memoirs. thats right
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Im gonna make copies of it on all my devices too
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splifyphus posted:this does point to a genuine problem with self-conscious materialist ontologies and empirical work - the temptation to make the results fit the ontology, or to just use the ontology itself to dismiss theories whole-clothe The idea in there that we should discard theory and "see nature as it is" is crude empiricism instead of something a marxist can take seriously in the first place. Nature or natural reality is what exists independently of conscious observation, but Marx's "matter" is specifically reality that has entered consciousness as sensations and/or concepts. You could say that people have a Midas's touch that immediately turns whatever they sense or otherwise measure into matter. Marx's "matter" is the inversion of Hegel's "idea": it's the dialectical unity of opposites between the reality out there and its conceptual representation, except with the right side on top. Because consciousness is an outcome of reality, no field of ontology is needed to set it straight about the structure of reality. One simply has to study what kind of consciousness is necessary to enable more productive interactions with reality. That's what science does and it's what marxism does, so marxism conceives itself as science rather than philosophy. And back to the point: It follows that for a marxist, germs *are* nature in its material form, because they're the most practically effective scientific representation of the phenomena being studied.
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Rated PG-34 posted:I’m glad the Marxist ladies recognized Obama as the opportunist he is and denied him poon. And that’s why you read theory
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i wish i were as smart as those women and saw the cynical bastard trying to take us for a ride back in 2008
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