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According to the extremely scientific https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp The UK mothballed all its ships and just rents them from the US mostly I believe.
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IIRC the Navy has been cut hard, especially under Cameron and May and would be completely owned by Russia or a unified EU force
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Nov 19, 2020 16:12
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i say swears online posted:does the UK really not have the biggest navy in the EU or does that include Russia
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Nov 19, 2020 16:13
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the Philippines wrecking the UK with lil bofors boats would be hilarious
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Nov 19, 2020 16:15
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We've got like 2 really good destroyers and those stupid aircraft carriers but that's it
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i say swears online posted:the Philippines wrecking the UK with lil bofors boats would be hilarious a series of f35s ramp up to full speed and plop off the edge of hms liz straight into the ocean
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Continuity RCP posted:We've got like 2 really good destroyers and those stupid aircraft carriers but that's it Not featured: aircraft capable of taking off from those carriers. Those get rented from the US too.
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Nov 19, 2020 16:21
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bring back the gladiator biplane
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i say swears online posted:bring back the gladiator biplane Too cheap and actually capable of combat, not fit for purpose
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multijoe posted:IIRC the Navy has been cut hard, especially under Cameron and May and would be completely owned by Russia or a unified EU force Or by an unexpected drizzle.
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gonadic io posted:According to the extremely scientific https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp lol basically all Finland has is for protecting shipping lanes, loving with Russian subs, and floating artillery so it's easy to get into position. It's not much of a navy. It's not meant to be, it's just to keep the coast from being the obvious weak spot. The staff are very useful, save people from the weather and help with research on the ecosystem. Prepared for war, but most of their work is entirely peaceful. Any navy below that might as well be drydocked. ... oh lol putting North Korea on top. Okay, I get it. Got me! endlessmonotony has issued a correction as of 17:41 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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The current UK flagship is a troop transport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Albion_(L14) e: the new planned flagship is an aircraft carrier that can only fly F35s
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endlessmonotony posted:lol basically all Finland has is for protecting shipping lanes, loving with Russian subs, and floating artillery so it's easy to get into position. It's not much of a navy. It's not meant to be, it's just to keep the coast from being the obvious weak spot. This list is just a count of total ships in a navy. Which is why when you click the link North Korea's Navy is listed as number one due to having "900" ships.
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OhFunny posted:This list is just a count of total ships in a navy. Yeah and it's counting all the equipment Finland's using to fight... the ice freezing our shipping lanes.
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I wasn't even really properly questioning the source because the idea of everyone subjecting their navies to JIT procurement due to neoliberalism makes a hell of a lot more sense than laser guns.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:“Our warships and combat vehicles will carry directed energy weapons, destroying targets with inexhaustible lasers. For them, the phrase 'out of ammunition' will become redundant," he told the Commons. "The UK armed forces pivot to lasers" seems like a consequence of John Dolan living in the six counties.
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gonadic io posted:More posts about how he wants the strongest navy in europe again. Does anybody else think it's a little odd that this all gets announced just as we enter the absolute final phase of brexit negotiations? lmao please tell me the UK government is dumb enough to throw its weight around trying to impound other nation's ships and ransom them back, that is what this is about right
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i hate this country so much
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Thompsons posted:lmao please tell me the UK government is dumb enough to throw its weight around trying to impound other nation's ships and ransom them back, that is what this is about right just wait until bojo has british ships start impressing foreign sailors and running opium. he's a fan of the classics after all
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gonadic io posted:e: the new planned flagship is an aircraft carrier that can only fly F35s A bold new strategy for ruling the waves. Throw f35s into it.
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Man suspending Corbyn is really stupid . If you want the left kept docile they should do to him what Kinnock and Blair did to Michael Foot and Tony Bennett. How is it your country’s leadership class can’t even understand political warfare anymore?
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gonadic io posted:According to the extremely scientific https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.asp Wikipedia has a page on blue-water navies with a write-up on how they define that, mostly power projection capability and the quality of the sailors and weaponry. The RN comes out second equal with France on that ranking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue-water_navy#Classification_and_naval_hierarchy World Naval Hierarchy, according to the Todd & Lindberg classification system (c.2019) 1 Global-reach power projection Multiple and sustained power projection missions globally United States 2 Limited global-reach power projection At least one major power projection operation globally France, United Kingdom 3 Multi-regional power projection Power projection to regions adjacent to its own China, India, Italy, Russia 4 Regional power projection Limited range power projection beyond exclusive economic zone (EEZ) Australia, Brazil, Germany, Japan, Netherlands, South Korea, Spain, Turkey Anyone who doesn't make the list is considered to be coastal defence. Also this ranking doesn't seem to consider that a volley of DF-21Ds will wreck anyone who dares to sail within range of the Chinese coast. Hillary 2024 has issued a correction as of 23:08 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Does the uk have 900 lovely patrol boats though I think not I confess I hadn't looked at the top of the list when I posted it
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gonadic io posted:Does the uk have 900 lovely patrol boats though I think not the charge of the light patrol boats
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the empire is long dead. fuckin get over it
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Crowsbeak posted:Man suspending Corbyn is really stupid . If you want the left kept docile they should do to him what Kinnock and Blair did to Michael Foot and Tony Bennett. How is it your country’s leadership class can’t even understand political warfare anymore? They press have been sucking them off instead of all out war and convinced the morons they're competent Basically it's failsons and faildaughters all the way down now Jose has issued a correction as of 23:40 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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did he check hunter's emails for this info
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redleader posted:the empire is long dead. fuckin get over it The death of the empire was almost certainly the best thing to happen to the British too, NHS was founded after they lost the big one. It wasn't like the empire got anything done for most British, it was just a bleak distraction from their own dickensian misery, so it's very funny that the Tories are trying to turn that tide.
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redleader posted:the empire is long dead. fuckin get over it They will never do this. It's too important to the identity of our ruling class for some reason
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gonadic io posted:did he check hunter's emails for this info He's right. Shut the gently caress about your dumbassed American grudge
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Jose posted:They press have been sucking them off instead of all out war and convinced the morons they're competent I just realized that it say Tony Bennett not Tony Benn.
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Crowsbeak posted:Man suspending Corbyn is really stupid . If you want the left kept docile they should do to him what Kinnock and Blair did to Michael Foot and Tony Bennett. How is it your country’s leadership class can’t even understand political warfare anymore? We're in a generation of political leadership that are descended from those who actually knew how to play politics, and they've been resting on their laurels for so long that they've forgotten how it's supposed to work. The same thing happened with economics: it's the difference between people who knew that libertarianism and small government was just something you said to get to the real prize of deregulation and tax cuts, and the people who genuinely believe that libertarianism and small government actually is as effective and correct as their mentors said it was three or so decades ago.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:“Our warships and combat vehicles will carry directed energy weapons, destroying targets with inexhaustible lasers. For them, the phrase 'out of ammunition' will become redundant," he told the Commons. Star Wars: episode 2
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https://twitter.com/sable_sonya/status/1330103279364272128
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gonadic io posted:did he check hunter's emails for this info It's the person you hate making a good point meme.
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1330156968141615105?s=19 chumocracy was a documentary
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90s Cringe Rock posted:destroying targets with inexhaustible lasers ROU; eccentric
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