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Mantis42 posted:Trump put his brain in Clone Biden's body to outwit the Deep State's election rigging!!!! I'm not going to believe this until I hear it from a credible news source, like some doughy white guy with a bloatee and Oakleys in a YouTube video that was filmed from the inside of his truck.
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Hey y'all. I run a pretty small Youtube channel, but am working on a longform project about Q and where it will go from here. I'm going to be interviewing Rick Alan Ross, a cult deprogrammer, for the project. I'm mostly going to be asking about cults in the age of the internet, and how they can exist without leaders that take pro-active roles in their lives. Anyone have anything they really want to ask him?
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Calico Heart posted:Hey y'all. I run a pretty small Youtube channel, but am working on a longform project about Q and where it will go from here. This is probably in your list of questions anyway, but what are the best things friends and relatives can do when they see someone either on their way to joining a cult or already in it?
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Calico Heart posted:Hey y'all. I run a pretty small Youtube channel, but am working on a longform project about Q and where it will go from here. "Is there an outcome for these people that doesn't result in violence?"
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Calico Heart posted:Hey y'all. I run a pretty small Youtube channel, but am working on a longform project about Q and where it will go from here. Mockery of the phenomenon's absurdities: Helpful or hurtful in convincing people to step away? (Also, helpful or hurtful in keeping people away from it in the first place?)
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Maybe lead with, "So... what the actual gently caress?" Seriously -- At what point is someone simply not 'deprogrammable' and is that more common than people who are?
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indiscriminately posted:[*] In his estimation, how long might the average cultist's belief endure if there were a permanent stasis in the mythology (i.e. the storm is always coming but never arrives), assuming no exogenous challenges to that belief (which is not the case for QAnon)? How long does human faith last in a vacuum? Seriously, seeing this locally instead of through this thread was kinda terrifying:  I guess my question for the expert would be if he sees Q as unique in any way or can he track it thus far based on his existing research from other groups?
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jojoinnit posted:I don't have this in the form of a question but I saw Q stickers on my high street today (little town in the Netherlands) and it got me wondering something similar to this, where if Trump going away means that instead of dying it becomes more amorphous and just swallows up local crazies and adds the right touch of the og beliefs (deep state being opposed by hidden patriots) and becomes compatible anywhere, totally divorced from Trump and his presidency. Just an ongoing "plot to save the world/children/etc". Qanon has basically been swallowing up local crazies for a while, it's an amalgamation of a yoga crap and anti-zionist crap and new earth crap and right wing crap and antivax crap and satanic panic crap at this point. It's all over the place. I mean in a sense they aren't wrong. There is a cabal of really loving evil people lying about the world and essentially running it for their own benefit in a way that will kill us all; and they undermine democratic processes and what not. It's just.. Trump is in no way a hero.
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pseudanonymous posted:Qanon has basically been swallowing up local crazies for a while, it's an amalgamation of a yoga crap and anti-zionist crap and new earth crap and right wing crap and antivax crap and satanic panic crap at this point. It's all over the place. QAnon is what happens when you turn the entire might of the imperial neoliberal order on destroying class and race solidarity. People know, because they can see it, that our society is broken and dying. But they've been propagandized 24/7 since birth to ignore the root causes or blame those issues on nonsense, and that continues today. When every celebrity, politician, and media channel is blasting you continuously with lies to make you a compliant consumer unable to effectively challenge the economic power structure, you will start blaming obvious problems on other sources. You'll start blaming Satan. You'll start blaming witches. You'll start blaming gay people and the Jews and secret lizards. You'll start blaming the conjunction of the planets or fluoridated water or magnetic waves. You'll start turning to any passing bullshit salesman to explain your pain and immiseration and that of the people around you because all the real explanations have been forbidden to you. Q is the societal equivalent of what happens to a dog when you give them an electric shock every time they try to drink water. They go insane, shake and turn comatose and soil themselves, turn on everyone around them, and frequently die.
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pseudanonymous posted:Qanon has basically been swallowing up local crazies for a while, it's an amalgamation of a yoga crap and anti-zionist crap and new earth crap and right wing crap and antivax crap and satanic panic crap at this point. It's all over the place. As the video posted on the previous page explained, qanon has become a "big-tent" conspiracy theory, probably because there is no one big event it is centred upon, unlike JFK, moon landing etc, and the q drops are so vague you can read whatever you want. I really can't recommend that folding ideas video enough. None of the actual text of the conspiracy matters, it is all about people feeling like the world is changing or more correctly has changed and they blame those who have been speaking up about how they are hurt and disadvantaged by the status quo for being the source of their discomfort. An example of the text not mattering is adrenochrome is never mentioned in any q drop but by now becoming a core principle of qanon. Anyway another link to the video: https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44
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exmachina posted:As the video posted on the previous page explained, qanon has become a "big-tent" conspiracy theory, probably because there is no one big event it is centred upon, unlike JFK, moon landing etc, and the q drops are so vague you can read whatever you want. I'd even argue it goes further than a big tent and is now becoming a (perhaps the) generic brand that any conspiracy theory can use, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years people might just refer to all conspiracy theories in general as "Q".
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Well, y'all wanted the evidence, so here it is, looks like we’ve finally figured it out. “Qanon” is Propaganda, and we know who’s responsible. Appreciate the rigour I guess.
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LanceHunter posted:I'd even argue it goes further than a big tent and is now becoming a (perhaps the) generic brand that any conspiracy theory can use, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years people might just refer to all conspiracy theories in general as "Q". Right. I've written in here before about progressive friends of mine who now seem to basically be Q followers, just with the Trump bits removed. They wave him off as unimportant, while ranting about the Democrats, deep state, how Russia is our ally, Assad isn't that bad, antivaxxer and TERF nonsense etc.
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God help me, I went through that entire, long, meandering, conspiracy theory-laden post that Bucky - who refuses to shut up and just has to constantly tell us how right they are - posted above. So, who's the guy who is responsible for the whole thing?quote:So, to sum up, here is how likely to have happened. People like Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, (and/or Jared Kushner, Dan Scavino, and Brad Parscale), drawing on strategies outlined by Jeff Giesea and Chuck Johnson, used companies like Psy-Group, WikiStrat, Black Cube, and Cambridge Analytica, to develop a strategy to drive support for Donald Trump. That involved a lot of things, including this project called Q. They used people like Thomas Schoenberger and Lisa Clapier, who used used puzzle-like strategies and cult-like recruitment techniques to create an ARG style Psy-Op, based a military-thriller conspiracy-core wrapped in a New-Age outer facade. It played right into pre-existing sociological conditions and psychological frameworks. People like Tracy Beanz, Coleman Rogers, Paul Furber, Joe M, and Ron and Jim Watkins, were either knowingly or unknowingly used to take the Operation to a wider audience. From there, various influencers built significant audiences by posting content from the Q Universe, and a self enforcing community grows. Companies like Cambridge Analytica and Gloo then used big data to target the content exactly where it’ll make the most difference. It’s all supported and amplified by outlets like OANN and Breitbart, and whoever else has an interest in a Trump administration. Uhh...so it's a confluence of a lot of factors including people promoting bullshit for propaganda purposes and societal factors and media literacy issues with the public and amplified by ne'er-do-wells for political purposes? WHAT AMAZINGLY NEW INSIGHTS BUCKY. Jesus loving christ.
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FFT posted:maybe calm down about the posting of a reasonably informative long-form article Reasonably informative? It was nearly gibberish. If it wasn't attacking Q it would be indistinguishable from a pro-Q piece. Also, calling out Cambridge Analytica for using "big data" to target the content is ridiculous as we've learned that Cambridge Analytica was mostly bullshitting about what they were capable of doing. While they got a lot of data it was almost entirely basic demographic data that wouldn't let them do targeting any more sophisticated than your average advertise-by-mail campaign.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Well, y'all wanted the evidence, so here it is, looks like we’ve finally figured it out. I read the whole thing but it’s all just a bit “seems like” and “this person is known to have met this person” and so on. Sort of reverse-conspiracy. It’s good work tho
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LanceHunter posted:Also, calling out Cambridge Analytica for using "big data" to target the content is ridiculous as we've learned that Cambridge Analytica was mostly bullshitting about what they were capable of doing. While they got a lot of data it was almost entirely basic demographic data that wouldn't let them do targeting any more sophisticated than your average advertise-by-mail campaign.
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ashpanash posted:God help me, I went through that entire, long, meandering, conspiracy theory-laden post that Bucky - who refuses to shut up and just has to constantly tell us how right they are - posted above. So, who's the guy who is responsible for the whole thing? Say "people like [list]" instead of actually accusing someone one more god drat time why don't you.
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ashpanash posted:Hey, here's Bucky again, trying to make the thread all about them. They want the attention report the post and if it happens enough maybe theyll get a longer vacation.
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ashpanash posted:God help me, I went through that entire, long, meandering, conspiracy theory-laden post that Bucky - who refuses to shut up and just has to constantly tell us how right they are - posted above. So, who's the guy who is responsible for the whole thing? I asked 4 months ago and no one had an answer, so just letting you know now we do. Of course there’s new stuff in there. I said it all in that 3 line post, didn’t want to make a big thing of it and don’t want to drag it out, if we agree then cool, not sure why you’re being so aggressive. Peace out
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Four months ago people gave you the exact answer in the article as the likely cause, and you flipped out and demanded we point to the specific human being who was pulling the strings and posted pages long screeds about shadowy government conspiracies in your outrage at being told that Roger Stone himself was probably not sitting at a computer writing Q prompts. like do you not realize that we were all here for it, and that you got probed for being relentlessly off the deep end and that we can go back and read if it we want?
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Can you show us where anyone had the exact answer in the article 4 months ago? And where all the other things you said happened? If you don’t want me to keep posting please stop strawmaning and gaslighting. Because I can show you a lot of times even the suggestion it was orchestrated was rejected. The fact it was propaganda was sometimes acknowledged but never in that level of detail. I was asked to provide evidence to back up my claims, and now I have, new names and all. Happy to leave it there. If you want to discuss any of it in good faith I’m happy to do that too but not sure it’s allowed. E - like, it’s a good day. We’ve solved the mystery. Figured it out, thanks in part to the thread. Thought you guys might like to know. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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Bucky Fullminster posted:E - like, it’s a good day. We’ve solved the mystery. Figured it out, thanks in part to the thread. Thought you guys might like to know. Holy poo poo this changes everything!!! Now could you leave the thread, like you were asked to do a million times, please?
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exmachina posted:Anyway another link to the video: https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44 At what point does this guy stop photographing a lake and crying, because I watched about 25 minutes of that and then my wife got mad at me for picking a boring lovely movie
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betaraywil posted:At what point does this guy stop photographing a lake and crying, because I watched about 25 minutes of that and then my wife got mad at me for picking a boring lovely movie 37:30 is when it takes a turn.
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ashpanash posted:37:30 is when it takes a turn. Grazie
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I dig the conclusion that Flynn is only a hero to people he’s paying.
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Everyone drop what you're doing Dan Olsen made a quasi-sequel to his flat-earth to Qanon pipeline video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icwDF8wRgF4
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Strong Q energy from this: https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1329489610473402369
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Guavanaut posted:Strong Q energy from this: Well she obviously meant his evil clone. You know, the one who wasn't killed in 2013.
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the yellow dart posted:Well she obviously meant his evil clone. You know, the one who wasn't killed in 2013. actually it was rigged in 2006 for 2020
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Argas posted:actually it was rigged in 2006 for 2020 Either that or Chavez is still alive like JFK Jr.
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Jenny of Oldstones posted:Either that or Chavez is still alive like JFK Jr. Alternatively, 
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