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The Colonel posted:tbh i only think white light is okay. the song is good but as an opening it doesn't really fit the game It kind of fits the theoretical game that was advertised, that was actually about compassion in a complex and uncaring world.
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Not fitting the game probably why it's good lol
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Nov 20, 2020 01:26
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Elderbean posted:Also, they used a sound loop for background noise in the cities that was supposed to be generic chatter but I swear there was a very audible "I love their armor" and I couldn't ignore it. There were multiple cutscenes in cities and I keep hearing this doofus say "I love their armor" in the background over and over again. FRESH MUTTON https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMC8tZmAblc&t=71s
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Nov 20, 2020 01:40
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i love how there's so many things wrong about zestiria that the thread rightly dunked on it for a whole page and didn't even get to the absolutely busted garbage that is the crafting and equipment system.The Colonel posted:zestiria is the hardest you will ever see a series completely reject the entire script of one of its own major entries via its own prequel and adaptation into other media even the manga i read which had a lot of the game's story played straight, they still changed the part where alisha's mentor turns evil for literally no reason because seriously that was stupid.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:20
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Golden Goat posted:I think one problem I have with Yakuza 7's combat is I'm not sure what each job is going for. Like it's really just they either do physical or magic damage. The two main differences between jobs are what stats they boost, and what elements they attack with.
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MechaX posted:Even the lore of Zestiria seems unfinished; characters talk about the mythical legend of the last messiah figure like he was around hundreds of years ago and his great deeds are totally lost to time, but then you later learned this poo poo happened 10-20 years ago That poo poo happens with Vesperia too.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:46
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The only thing I really know about Tales of Zestiria is that Rising Up rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lCpvN_ImBw Go Shiina ftw
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Nov 20, 2020 02:48
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Tired Moritz posted:That poo poo happens with Vesperia too. It also happens with Phantasia and Symphonia too though not to quite the same degree. A lot of poo poo should be in living memory of a bunch of characters you meet up with who just uh don't mention it until you learn via plot reveal.
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Nov 20, 2020 02:55
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The Colonel posted:tbh i only think white light is okay. the song is good but as an opening it doesn't really fit the game  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFCskRNZ-E
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Nov 20, 2020 03:00
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I barely remember the Abyss op since I played it on 3DS and just left it running the whole time lol It's okay I guess.
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Nov 20, 2020 03:14
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You're okay I guess.
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Nov 20, 2020 03:25
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PLaying through Berseria again cause a friend got it on sale for my birthday and Rokugo is way more fun to play than I remember. I remember hating him and Elenor and sticking on Magi and Eizen for the most part. Anyone know the hot Rokugo tech?
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Nov 20, 2020 03:46
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Hammer that R2, even if it doesn't trigger it gets the target way closer to being stunned and then you can Hurricane Thrust the soul back for free. Thrusting, generally, is the single thing that solves every problem with Rokurou because sends you back into the enemy after he's done flipping off into the distance in a random direction.
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Nov 20, 2020 04:00
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A Sometimes Food posted:Legit the only interesting thing about Zestiria is that Sorey was gay with the water spirit guy. My sister likes Zestiria and as far as I can tell, this is literally the main thing her entire attachment to it is based on because the rest is...not great. All about the ship! EDIT: Forgot some of the music was great too. Still!
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Nov 20, 2020 04:14
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MechaX posted:Even the lore of Zestiria seems unfinished; characters talk about the mythical legend of the last messiah figure like he was around hundreds of years ago and his great deeds are totally lost to time, but then you later learned this poo poo happened 10-20 years ago Tired Moritz posted:That poo poo happens with Vesperia too. Zore posted:It also happens with Phantasia and Symphonia too though not to quite the same degree. A lot of poo poo should be in living memory of a bunch of characters you meet up with who just uh don't mention it until you learn via plot reveal. It's basically the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy effect where things become legendary within a very tight time window.
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Nov 20, 2020 05:12
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So was Zesty just rushed out without like a second pass on the script or like....finishing what was clearly gonna be a split story route? Like why is it somehow so undercooked
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Nov 20, 2020 05:23
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they had the longest dev cycle of any tales game in a while, they wanted to make it a big open world game with splitting story paths, they thought they had the resources to make this work, they were working with a ps3 game engine that could barely maintain 30fps on the ps4
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Nov 20, 2020 05:26
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I think it's very likely that there was a massive change in direction at some point during production. A lot of stuff in marketing just doesn't remotely match what we got, Alisha being the most obvious but far from only example.
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Nov 20, 2020 05:31
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I started Digital Devil Saga yesterday, and the opening was pretty cool but gently caress me the encounter rate is high. I also wasn't really paying enough attention so I ended up running around in circles chasing this guy and battling every 5 steps, then I accidentally pressed load state and lost my progress  is there an easy way to lower the encounter rate (I'm emulating it)? I'm not sure I can deal with the whole game being like that
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Nov 20, 2020 05:48
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Kokoro Wish posted:At least Zesteria had a pretty rad opening: "I want to be white, white nowwwwwww" I forgot that bit. Think I choked on my drink when I heard it the first time I fired Zesty up. Also I dig the villain's design being this huge lion monster thing, just shame about everything else outside his design.
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Nov 20, 2020 12:29
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Starry Heavens, the Symphonia OP, is still my favourite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQUparDhtg Berseria's is a close second. I used to like Ring A Bell back when i first played Vesperia but I've soured on it since.
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Nov 20, 2020 14:28
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It's me, the one person that actually kind of likes Zestiria. It's weak for a Tales game, and the story is....something, but for some reason I still just kind of like it. The crafting system is hot garbage, though.
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Nov 20, 2020 14:44
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don't forget the skill system! that's hot garbage too!
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Nov 20, 2020 14:58
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I just started Zestiria but Sorey talking about those prickleboars is very cute.
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I like that the tutorials about how the crafting/skill system work A) can only be seen by sleeping a bunch at inns in a game where save points are full restores, that also doesnt have MP/TP so its relatively easy to keep yourself fully healed just via spamming healing spells during easy random battles B) have every single character talking about how this makes no sense and is impossible to understand One thing I did like about Zestiria was the dialogue whenever you ran into a new monster though. That was genuinely good.
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Nov 20, 2020 15:07
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it helps that playing as velvet is just loving fun, shes a great mc and really elevates berseria
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The skill system is hot garbage but it scratches a very specific itch for me. I loved loving around with those skills to see what combinations I could come up with. Honestly I just wish it wasn't explicitly tied to equipment, I really don't like having to choose between good stats and good skills
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If the skill system had a better way of visualizing which skills would turn into what when combining and showing how that affected the grind on top of having easier ways of getting specific skills/slots then it might have been worth messing around with for the cool effects. By the end of the game, I was just going with more dots=better as long as the atk stat was being boosted. There are some weird weapons that give only defensive stats for whatever reason
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Chrono Ark is really good scratches the EO/Labyrinth of Touhou itch for me without the stuff that makes me mildly anxious in the former of those two. You really do have to opt in for the beta though because jeez there is way more skill variety present and the skill books add a lot.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Chrono Ark is really good scratches the EO/Labyrinth of Touhou itch for me without the stuff that makes me mildly anxious in the former of those two. That seems backwards since being a roguelike seems like it'd make you more anxious, normally, but yes it's a good game. They also completely revamped Lian at some point and while I can see why they did that, I also think a lot of her old skills are now weird and pointless (like why would she ever want to cover someone or taunt now that it doesn't proc Parry?). Edit: Oh, I guess it could make you less anxious because it's impossible to invest "wrong" when it's all going to reset in less than 2 hours?
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Clarste posted:That seems backwards since being a roguelike seems like it'd make you more anxious, normally, but yes it's a good game. They also completely revamped Lian at some point and while I can see why they did that, I also think a lot of her old skills are now weird and pointless (like why would she ever want to cover someone or taunt now that it doesn't proc Parry?). I dunno if its anything about investment but yeah just, having a run instead of the normal loop of EO helps a lot for me. But again Labyrinth of the Touhou I am perfectly fine with so I dunno exactly what it is about EO's loop that makes me anxious over time.
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i finally beat atelier annie i couldn't get the ending i watned after laying out my entire playthrough for it because there are multiple missable scenes that have zero signposting. half of the character writing i was enjoying cut off abruptly and never came up again because of that. this includes lise and gillian, so basically the only characters i got to see full arcs for were kyle, kilbert and beaux. it's not even possible to rest through the last few months of nothing happening because there is no rest option, so you just have to synthesize a bunch until you hit the ending. this is the worst atelier game i've ever played lol The Colonel fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Nov 21, 2020 07:16
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The DS games don't count as mainline for a good reason. Gust didn't even make them. Apparently one of the two Japan-only DS spinoffs is decent but I forget which one
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Hey Rokurou is pretty fun not that i've gotten some time as him, i like to combo into earth mine and flip out then thrust back in but also Hey I got Eizen so time to go back to my flash step, dempsey roll, spell casting ways.
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you know. i feel bad for anyone at gust who worked on doing a full 3ds remake of atelier rorona only for atelier rorona dx to come out on switch two years afterwards
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I think it's one of like two Gust games in the last decade not to get a western release too which shows how much anyone cared about it.
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Nov 21, 2020 08:46
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Didn't that 3DS remake use repurposed assets from a failed Atelier gacha/mobile game?
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Playing Tales of Symphonia and it's slamming up and down on my buttons regarding missable items and scenes and it takes multiple affirmations that it's okay, I don't need to 100% it, let it go. Eesh. Game good but brain bad. e: I do have an actual question! Are there any characters who will permanently leave the party? Do I need to take their gear ahead of time? I've been burned by Final Fantasy. StrixNebulosa fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:e: I do have an actual question! Are there any characters who will permanently leave the party? Do I need to take their gear ahead of time? I've been burned by Final Fantasy. nope you can have either zelos or kratos at the end after a big scene but they serve the same function and i think share the same equips
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StrixNebulosa posted:e: I do have an actual question! Are there any characters who will permanently leave the party? Do I need to take their gear ahead of time? I've been burned by Final Fantasy.
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