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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

The Peccadillo posted:

Why you think invading afghanistan almost a decade ago is a "probably!" good or bad ideas, who can tell, the evidence is thin

The other poster proposed "maybe" I agreed "probably" emphatically.

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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

JBP posted:

The other poster proposed "maybe" I agreed "probably" emphatically.

What do you mean “agreed”?!

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Solemn Sloth posted:

What do you mean “agreed”?!

What do you mean “mean”!?

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
JBP has committed many posting war crimes

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Fake news

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Tommunist posted:

JBP has committed many posting war crimes

Probably!

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Tommunist posted:

JBP has committed many posting war crimes

agreed

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
At least they were all earnest rather than ironic.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

If anybody has a Herald Sun sub can you please post Andrew Bolt's "I'm leaving Melbourne" sookie so I can have a good lol at it

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Comstar posted:

The Chinese regime removed the PM's post on WeChat.

Why are they doing all this now though? This whole "I'm not touching you!" needling is for whose benefit?

China have probably wanted to take Australia down a peg for a long while due to our politicians clicking their tongue at them over human rights abuses, and this is as good of an opportunity as ever that people looking to curry favour with their bosses in an authoritarian state have leapt at. Never let it be said they're particularly good at it, because performative trolling only ever really wins over your own base and they're firmly behind you anyway. It won't make them any bonus allies in the Pacific just maybe embolden the ones that dislike Australia more than China.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

freebooter posted:

If anybody has a Herald Sun sub can you please post Andrew Bolt's "I'm leaving Melbourne" sookie so I can have a good lol at it

Convicted racist Andrew Bolt posted:

Andrew Bolt: I loved you Melbourne, but now it’s over

The bush means more space, fewer people and a wide sky to let me dream I’m free — and I’m not alone in fleeing Melbourne.

So the house is sold, the boxes packed, and I’m heading bush, without a single tear.

Blame maybe the coronavirus for the cold goodbye. I’m not alone in fleeing Melbourne after months of this virus lockdown.

That didn’t just leave me feeling claustrophobic and wanting out before this crazy government’s next stunt. I was felt threatened by how eagerly so many Melburnians accepted home imprisonment and looked for people to dob in.

How I need more space, fewer people and a wide sky to let me dream I’m free.

But, honestly, I was pretty much done with Melbourne already. I’d planned for years to bail out the moment I could.

That’s now. Kids left. Savings topped up. Career optional.

So part of this move is me — but part of it, Melbourne, is you.

It’s more than 40 years since I moved from Murray Bridge to Melbourne, and my first real job.

How I adored the capital of the Garden State.

There was more green than I was used to.

More flowers.

The city seemed sedate, too.

Ordered.

Oh, it had flaws.

The Yarra bank, across from the city centre, was an eyesore.

I still remember seeing a giant rat there, before the warehouses went and restaurants and the casino came.

Now the only rats are the human ones a casino inevitably attracts.

Is that an improvement?

Or just more “progress” to regret, like the rash of pokie machines that infected the city from the 1990s, the previous time a Labor government drove the state broke and needed cash.

I also remember when Melbourne boasted it was Australia’s arts capital, and few dared disagree.

Back then, it had a new arts centre, and gloried in hometown playwrights like David Williamson and bred performers as wildly wonderful as Barry Humphries.

But Williamson then moved to Sydney, as did others, and once-rollicking Melbourne grew so po-faced that the Melbourne International Comedy Festival last year stripped Humphries’ name from its top prize because he’d offended transgender activists.

A city that swaps a Humphries for a Hannah Gadsby has had fun stamped out of it by a new elite that wants laughter to have a licence.

And a city that insists it’s still an arts mecca because — look! — we have lanes coated with graffiti really needs a reality check.

Then there’s the traffic.

When I moved to Melbourne, it had 2.8 million people, and that already seemed plenty.

But our politicians, addicted to macho-growth, doubled it to more than five million.

Homes with gardens were torn down and replaced with apartments.

The city spread like cancer, and Melbourne now has just too, too many people.

Boy, have I noticed.

Finding a break in the traffic to get out of my street got harder.

Sunday went from a quiet day on the roads to jam-packed.

And with so many newcomers crowding the city, you couldn’t talk any more about a “we” — people sharing the stories that turn individuals into a community.

Stories?

We barely share a language, now that immigrants no longer feel the pressure to integrate, as did my parents’ generation.

In the virus crisis, the government translated health warnings into 53 languages, and still it wasn’t enough.

Victorians born overseas were twice as likely as those born here to get sick.

And have you noticed how brutal Melbourne has become?

More gangs, more street violence, more home invasions.

Even the language is more brutal.

I this week read of the “heartfelt” Instagram post of a footballer’s fiance, battling to get pregnant through IVF.

“’Motherhood sounds so f..king magical,” she wrote.

How that obscenity jarred next to “motherhood”.

True, Melbourne still does things well.

It has the Richmond AFL club, for one.

And no city can get more people to a big game so easily.

I’ll also miss the Ian Potter Centre at Federation Square.

Its Australian art gives me a happy outing a couple of times a year.

But the rest?

What can Melbourne now offer me that compares to the joy of leaving it?

You may know the feeling as you drive away.

Houses finally give way to paddocks and soft hills, blue in the distance, or you crest a rise and see the great ocean at last.

The horizon expands.

The air freshens.

The roar of cars gives way to bird calls.

Breath in, tension out.

Melbourne behind you, a gentler life ahead.

Does he always write like that? Single line sentences, what a horrible reading experience.

Edit: install the bypass paywalls extension: https://github.com/iamadamdev

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
"I was felt threatened by how eagerly so many Melburnians accepted home imprisonment and looked for people to dob in."

?????

Also lol, a woman made a swear :ohdear:

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Lol, thank you, as nonsensical and rambling as I expected

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

ShoeFly posted:

Does he always write like that? Single line sentences, what a horrible reading experience.

he is being ~~poetic~~

a real banjo paterson

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Well I hope he's not moving to my bit of regional Vic.

Seemlar
Jun 18, 2002
He's moving to the Mornington Peninsula

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Send all the african gangs to Sorrento

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IBR6mHtgqk

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


quote:

When I moved to Melbourne, it had 2.8 million people, and that already seemed plenty.

But our politicians, addicted to macho-growth, doubled it to more than five million.

Homes with gardens were torn down and replaced with apartments.

The city spread like cancer, and Melbourne now has just too, too many people.

Boy, have I noticed.

Finding a break in the traffic to get out of my street got harder.

Sunday went from a quiet day on the roads to jam-packed.

And with so many newcomers crowding the city, you couldn’t talk any more about a “we” — people sharing the stories that turn individuals into a community.

The worst kind of person who moves somewhere for the opportunities and then immediately wants the ladder pulled up behind them.

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

freebooter posted:

Lol, thank you, as nonsensical and rambling as I expected
Now he is moving to the country for more isolation. I can't wait for his columns to be like Unabomber screeds.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Electric Wrigglies posted:

There are a number of events which are likely to support a military conviction. There are also other allegations which are not supported to a standard likely to result in a conviction or are provably untrue. The 14 year old boys one was in the second group.

As a result on its own investigation, the ADF disbanded 2SQN, recommended the stripping of the unit meritorious service medals for several years (looking like being overruled by the political leadership of Australia) and pursuit of military justice of a number personnel as well as show cause notices going out to those that likely would not be able to be convicted but were otherwise likely to have been involved or negligent in their leadership.

The ADF is like any defense force and is to be distrusted as a matter of course and it is possible or maybe even likely that that there are other and even worse events that have not been reported. However, it looks like the ADF has (belatedly) gone in fairly strongly on this. It is only a short time ago the SAS were treated by the Australian public similar to how Americans glorify and undulate their armed forces. The media and ADF leadership coming out and outing the SAS as the shameful dogs that they are is probably beyond what most military organisations around the world would ever expect.
Do you have access to the unredacted report?

KJT was born on Napperby station. In August 2013 he was sentenced to nine months' jail for driving while disqualified and breaching a suspended sentence. He was a very sick man and had end-stage kidney disease, type 2 diabetes, ischaemic heart disease and an umbilical hernia that was causing him significant pain and distress. He attended dialysis four times a week. On 8 February 2014 he had emergency surgery to remove the hernia and had multiple heart attacks shortly after. His family was distressed that they were not informed of the surgery and were surprised by his death.

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

Dickhead posted:

Blame maybe the coronavirus for the cold goodbye. I’m not alone in fleeing Melbourne after months of this virus lockdown.

That didn’t just leave me feeling claustrophobic and wanting out before this crazy government’s next stunt. I was felt threatened by how eagerly so many Melburnians accepted home imprisonment and looked for people to dob in.

Seemlar posted:

He's moving to the Mornington Peninsula

Which was considered metropolitan Melbourne for the purposes of the lockdown.

Thank gently caress he's not moving anywhere near me at least.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

ShoeFly posted:

Does he always write like that? Single line sentences, what a horrible reading experience.

Edit: install the bypass paywalls extension: https://github.com/iamadamdev

What a poo poo head. Hannah Gadsby owns.

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

ShoeFly posted:

Edit: install the bypass paywalls extension: https://github.com/iamadamdev

Thanks for this BTW.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
I'm the guy who threw in a fake testimony about a war criminal activity just for pepper and to excite the Chinese

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

ShoeFly posted:

Does he always write like that? Single line sentences, what a horrible reading experience.

Edit: install the bypass paywalls extension: https://github.com/iamadamdev

Melbourne has become so brutal, a new mother used a curseword.

How does he not link unfettered capitalism to the expanding growth of the city and his subsequent hatred for the place?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Konomex posted:

How does he not link unfettered capitalism to the expanding growth of the city and his subsequent hatred for the place?

pure ideology

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Konomex posted:

Melbourne has become so brutal, a new mother used a curseword.

How does he not link unfettered capitalism to the expanding growth of the city and his subsequent hatred for the place?

Because his brain has been replaced by a fat steamy turd

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Moving to the Mornington Peninsula ≠ 'Going bush' Jesus Christ. It's basically Melbourne.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Konomex posted:

Melbourne has become so brutal, a new mother used a curseword.

How does he not link unfettered capitalism to the expanding growth of the city and his subsequent hatred for the place?

It's the politicians' fault for not erecting the ring of steel immediately after he arrived and letting the wrong ones in. The wrong ones are brown, left, or both.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Tomberforce posted:

Moving to the Mornington Peninsula ≠ 'Going bush' Jesus Christ. It's basically Melbourne.

it literally still is. it was part of the metropolitan lockdowns.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

it must be surprising to some people here that convicted racist andrew bolt (CRAB) is full of poo poo.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

hambeet posted:

it must be surprising to some people here that convicted racist andrew bolt (CRAB) is full of poo poo.

it is never time for CRAB

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Annabel CRAB?

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
I prefer Currently Rabid Animal Busb

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Seemlar posted:

He's moving to the Mornington Peninsula

LOL I thought he'd be at least actually be moving to the bush. He's literally just moving from Melbourne to outer Melbourne.

Haha, guy never misses a chance to show that he's a tool.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
That is the most boomer dad poo poo I have ever seen.

cohsae
Jun 19, 2015

Escaping Melbourne by moving to the place where every Melbournian spends their weekends and holidays.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?

Zenithe posted:

That is the most boomer dad poo poo I have ever seen.

reminds me when my brother moved like 15 minutes outside of Rockhampton and his idiot cotton farmer father in law is saying how good the quiet is in the bush is when you could hear trucks passing by.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

One of his reasons that Melbourne is going to the dogs is that it went from hosting the artistic glitterati of Barry Humphries and David Williamson, to being proud of the laneways filled with street art that are a legitimate tourist attraction. No mention at all of Melbournes once proud live music scene. (I am an old, and havent lived in Melbourne for 10 years so I dunno how vibrant it is these days.)

Then there is the "nobody speaks English here anymore", and his insistence that Apex African gangs roam the streets and graffiti filled laneways terrorizing good white middle class citizens.

Also the swipe at Hannah Gadsby for no reason at all. Who, if I remember correctly is actually from small town Tasmania?

This may be considered a harsh, and unpopular take, but Andrew Bolt is poopy.

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

The music scene in Melbourne is still probably the best in the country.

Highly specific but the stoner/doom scene there is extremely good and a few bands are starting to get international attention. COVID put that on ice but heaps of acts everywhere have taken the opportunity to record new music and get it out there.

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