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DS9 S5E2 "The Ship" is a top tier production. It feels really movie-like, even though the story is ultimately pretty small scale and gets exactly the amount of time it needs. Maybe it was just because of the torpedo casket, but I really started getting WoK vibes near the end. It just felt like that same wavelength of storytelling: high drama with a strong thematic & ideological core, and feels more action-packed than it actually is. Apparently the producers weren't super happy with it, but I'm not sure why. Some of them felt like it should've taken place completely inside the ship without Sisko making any trips to the surface to speak to the Vorta, for maximum tension. I can see the appeal of that idea, but I think they ultimately ended up striking the right balance. And Sisko got some truly epic rants in.
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Dec 3, 2020 17:58
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Sir Lemming posted:DS9 S5E2 "The Ship" is a top tier production. It feels really movie-like, even though the story is ultimately pretty small scale and gets exactly the amount of time it needs. Maybe it was just because of the torpedo casket, but I really started getting WoK vibes near the end. It just felt like that same wavelength of storytelling: high drama with a strong thematic & ideological core, and feels more action-packed than it actually is. I'm on Season 5 in my rewatch and although I liked that episode overall, I completely didn't buy the whole Muniz thing. From the moment he was introduced it was like "HEY LOOK AT THIS GUY AND HIS WACKY BANTER, HOPE HE DOESN'T DIE LOL!!" It just felt incredibly hamfisted. You knew what his entire plotline would be from the instant he opened his mouth.
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Dec 3, 2020 18:33
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showbiz_liz posted:I'm on Season 5 in my rewatch and although I liked that episode overall, I completely didn't buy the whole Muniz thing. From the moment he was introduced it was like "HEY LOOK AT THIS GUY AND HIS WACKY BANTER, HOPE HE DOESN'T DIE LOL!!" It just felt incredibly hamfisted. You knew what his entire plotline would be from the instant he opened his mouth. This is true, but the inevitability of his death also ended up being a plot point, so it kind of works anyway.
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Dec 3, 2020 18:56
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He was actually in some earlier episodes but didn’t get much to do
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Dec 3, 2020 18:58
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's interesting watching Voyager as a 40 year old attracted to women my own age and suddenly realizing Janeway is really attractive. That completely passed me by 20 years ago. The page is 1996 and lets remember voyager and that there's coffee in that nebula
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Dec 3, 2020 19:15
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Erulisse posted:The page is 1996 and lets remember voyager and that there's coffee in that nebula
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Dec 3, 2020 19:24
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I'm not getting older. The characters in the TV shows are just getting younger every time I go back and watch them
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Dec 3, 2020 20:00
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FlamingLiberal posted:He was actually in some earlier episodes but didn’t get much to do Wasn't he one of the engineers Worf had to apologise to in Starship Down?
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Dec 3, 2020 20:13
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Sir Lemming posted:DS9 S5E2 "The Ship" is a top tier production. It feels really movie-like, even though the story is ultimately pretty small scale and gets exactly the amount of time it needs. Maybe it was just because of the torpedo casket, but I really started getting WoK vibes near the end. It just felt like that same wavelength of storytelling: high drama with a strong thematic & ideological core, and feels more action-packed than it actually is. I love that episode for all the above reasons. Tense small-scale dramas like this or "To the Death" are some peak DS9 to me.
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Dec 3, 2020 20:48
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there did not end up being coffee in the nebula
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Dec 3, 2020 21:03
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Zaroff posted:Wasn't he one of the engineers Worf had to apologise to in Starship Down? He also appears briefly in Hard Time (the one where O’Brien is in mind jail).
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Dec 3, 2020 21:13
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cheetah7071 posted:there did not end up being coffee in the nebula 
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Dec 3, 2020 22:17
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Erulisse posted:The page is 1996 and lets remember voyager and that there's coffee in that nebula Ah yes baby, we made it. 1996, end of history, cold war is over, no more conflict in the world, it's all looking up from here. Can't wait to usher in the new millenium, 2001 is going to be one hell of a year. Bright times ahead of us.
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Dec 4, 2020 01:29
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Have you heard of this thing they have now called the internet?????? All of the world's information at your finger tips! How could this ever go wrong?
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Dec 4, 2020 02:30
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Sir Lemming posted:DS9 S5E2 "The Ship" is a top tier production. It feels really movie-like, even though the story is ultimately pretty small scale and gets exactly the amount of time it needs. Maybe it was just because of the torpedo casket, but I really started getting WoK vibes near the end. It just felt like that same wavelength of storytelling: high drama with a strong thematic & ideological core, and feels more action-packed than it actually is. i think its main weakness is that the vorta doesnt really behave rationally, constantly attacking them and lying to them and then while the episode is about the horrors of the dominion conflict (not yet a war) and the costs taking their toll on the surviving members - a theme that is revisited over and over throughout the last two seasons - sisko's penultimate conclusion is like "we should have trusted each other!" it doesnt fit with sisko who is generally very incisive and assertive to take literally any loving blame but thats his conclusion and then after its all said and done he doesnt even take the vorta prisoner. it feels like they wanted the trust thing to be the moral, maybe in the first draft, but when they made the vorta clearly an amoral psycho (like all of them) it doesnt resonate at all and its not like she doesnt know who sisko is. she even says something to the effect that she already knows who he is. if she really wanted to guarantee that she got the changeling and nothing else theres absolutely nothing just asking for it in exchange for the ship i actually thought the muniz part of it was done really well because A: he was the exact same affable smart rear end in the other episodes he showed up in and B: it helps build o'briens feeling of personal isolation as the people he cares about die in the war (something he talks about in 'the sound of her voice')
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Dec 4, 2020 03:00
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piratepilates posted:Ah yes baby, we made it. 1996, end of history, cold war is over, no more conflict in the world, it's all looking up from here. Can't wait to usher in the new millenium, 2001 is going to be one hell of a year. Bright times ahead of us. Man I'm a little disappointed George W Bush just got elected but you know what him and Al Gore basically the same guy anyway! All your base are belong to us!
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Dec 4, 2020 03:46
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I wish to know more about this comic.
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Dec 4, 2020 08:15
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piratepilates posted:Ah yes baby, we made it. 1996, end of history, cold war is over, no more conflict in the world, it's all looking up from here. Can't wait to usher in the new millenium, 2001 is going to be one hell of a year. Bright times ahead of us.
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Dec 4, 2020 09:26
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That's from an official comic, apparently, Naomi was writing it in-universe. 
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Dec 4, 2020 09:26
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MikeJF posted:That's from an official comic, apparently, Naomi was writing it in-universe. Naoimi Wildman is hella cool 
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Dec 4, 2020 10:05
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MikeJF posted:That's from an official comic, apparently, Naomi was writing it in-universe. I would back a Kickstarter of an actual episode of this. Get some of the cast back together for a Naomi Wildman written Voyager story.
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Dec 4, 2020 10:24
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V-Men posted:I would back a Kickstarter of an actual episode of this. Get some of the cast back together for a Naomi Wildman written Voyager story. Robert Beltran aside, the Voyager cast are goofballs who would be down for it if The Delta Flyers is any indication.
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Dec 4, 2020 10:30
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nine-gear crow posted:Robert Beltran aside, the Voyager cast are goofballs who would be down for it if The Delta Flyers is any indication. I desperately want a Harry Kim episode of Lower Decks.
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Dec 4, 2020 11:32
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Have him as the Lower Decks crew's tyrannical boss after he finally gets promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade, and the power goes to his head.
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Dec 4, 2020 13:55
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Angry Salami posted:Have
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Dec 4, 2020 14:33
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Angry Salami posted:Have him as the Lower Decks crew's tyrannical boss after he finally gets promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade, and the power goes to his head. Payndz posted:Have 
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Dec 4, 2020 16:42
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Watching Redemption Part 1 and can't help but lol that the HD remaster makes Denise Crosby easily recognizable even when she's standing in the shadows.
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Dec 4, 2020 17:03
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Watching Redemption Part 1 and can't help but lol that the HD remaster makes Denise Crosby easily recognizable even when she's standing in the shadows.
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Dec 4, 2020 18:56
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nine-gear crow posted:Naoimi Wildman is hella cool Good thing the Star Trek Picard writers have some terrible torture planned for her in season!
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Dec 4, 2020 20:08
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She will come back as a pansexual alcoholic drug addict who wears Master Chief armor that transforms into the Delta flyer 3 for some reason Fan sites will declare her a bastion of progressive storytelling as she looks into the camera and says she's going to make the federation great again
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Dec 4, 2020 20:38
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Finally finished season 1 of TNG. If this is the unwatchably bad season I'm really looking forward to what's next because I really enjoyed it begining to end. Smooth Riker and red Geordi and Worf were really weird though.
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Dec 4, 2020 20:42
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Tighclops posted:She will come back as a pansexual alcoholic drug addict who wears Master Chief armor that transforms into the Delta flyer 3 for some reason “Here’s the technical reason why Naomi Wildman is now a Transformer, but we ran out of time within the show to explain it” - Michael Chabon, panicking on IG
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Dec 4, 2020 20:45
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I watched The Way of The Warrior after not watching a 90s trek for 5 years... the ensemble cast was awesome, seeing Worf again was cool how they worked him in. It even had the root beer scene which I had forgotten about until it was happening. What a great show.
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Dec 5, 2020 00:51
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Payndz posted:I'm convinced that a hundred years from now, the turn of the millennium will be considered the peak of western civilisation, and it all went to poo poo from there. The End of History indeed, just not in the way it was intended. The Matrix tried to tell us!
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Dec 5, 2020 01:12
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Boxturret posted:Finally finished season 1 of TNG. If this is the unwatchably bad season I'm really looking forward to what's next because I really enjoyed it begining to end. Having gone back and rewatched a few extra S1 and S2 episodes that were omitted from the watch list I used, I have to admit most of the episodes are actually pretty decent. If I had to do my own watchlist, I would definitely not be nearly as aggressive as most at cutting out episodes. There’s a lot of little character details and plot progression, and I actually like Picard’s dumb holodeck adventures. S3 on is almost entirely solid but I would only really skip a few whole episodes per season if I did it again. Need to wrap up my thoughts on S2 since I’m well past that and the show gets absolutely bananas in a good way after that. I’m super stoked for DS9.
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Dec 5, 2020 01:13
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jeeves posted:Good thing the Star Trek Picard writers have some terrible torture planned for her in season! The season opener will reveal she was one of the prostitutes Seven gunned down in that space bar. This is a shocking revelation that would have served actual dramatic effect if it had been saved for later in the episode. Her mom (played by a different actress) is out for revenge.
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Dec 5, 2020 01:24
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Hed posted:I watched The Way of The Warrior after not watching a 90s trek for 5 years... the ensemble cast was awesome, seeing Worf again was cool how they worked him in. It even had the root beer scene which I had forgotten about until it was happening. Way of the Warrior is the good DS9 movie we never got.
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Dec 5, 2020 18:39
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Rob Rockley posted:S4E18, Identity Crisis, focuses on a video recording that Geordi reconstructs on the Holodeck to puzzle out a mystery. You see a guy with a camera and the video he took from his POV. Just finished it a couple days back and thought it was alright, but that specific sequence was great. One of the few times TNG terrified kid-me. The other involves a table.
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A table and a cake?
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