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One weird legal trick to reversing elections!quote:I posted this on two other threads; this will be last, I promise. If there are any legal minds out there who’d like to say why this will not work, it will be great to know/learn. I keep hearing people say this but it makes no sense. quote:Trump won in 2020 in a close election, like in 2016. In 2024 it will be a landslide, too large to overcome by fraud. Fraud is only useful in close elections. A lot of people saying they'd love to have a viable third party that they'd totally support, until election day rolled around and they went "But if I vote for the third party the DEMONRAT will win!" and just vote straight ticket GOP. quote:I would love to be a member of an Independent conservative constitutional Party. All the rinos and the dems know the score. Keep the lazy ignorant voters happy with feel good promises....and procure, finagle, or steal whatever you can get from the vovernment and its associations until your term is up. quote:I wish Donald Trump would start a new political party called the “America First” party. Our goals are in the title: “America First”, and every other political party would have to stand for something other than America First. No RINOS allowed. Run against them in the election and replace the Republicans in Congress completely after 6 years. If Trump took the helm and campaigned for candidates, we could have true conservatives in Washington, without be patronized by RINOS every election. Only then, would we have a true CHOICE. Hey, someone on Freep with half a brain. quote:How about the people who have risked their lives coming forward as witnesses and signing affidavits? Or does that no longer matter??? "Our voter fraud would be good." quote:With all the theft and fraud democrats exhibited this election, it would be smart for Republicans to do likewise. How many counties in America went to Trump? What if Republicans decided to manufacture "mailed" ballots? But then they held them back until after the tallies from the corrupt cities, at which time millions of straight R ticket votes would appear and overtake the fraud made in Philly, and Detroit, and Atlanta, and Pittsburgh. We might even sweep out the Schumers and the Waters and the Schiffs.
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Love the last guy whose tag line is an indictment of capitalism.
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Dec 4, 2020 22:07
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Mantis42 posted:Ironically, Trump somehow stealing the election at this late date is probably the only thing that would save the Dems from being destroyed in 22 and 24. Think about what you're saying. If the baby man president can reject an election result where he loses, by a lot, then elections are basically over and he's a dictator so future elections are irrelevant as they can be rejected too, in fact the whole facade would probably fall apart pretty quickly.
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Dec 4, 2020 23:06
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Zwabu posted:Think about what you're saying. If the baby man president can reject an election result where he loses, by a lot, then elections are basically over and he's a dictator so future elections are irrelevant as they can be rejected too, in fact the whole facade would probably fall apart pretty quickly. Also he has been "joking" about pursuing a third term.
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Dec 4, 2020 23:15
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Twelve by Pies posted:"Our voter fraud would be good." Most actual cases of voter fraud in the US are Republicans who commit it and then claim it's to "make up for" the voter fraud democrats are committing.
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For the sake of equal voice and representation, please continue "No Nut November" until this fraud is overcome. And please pray.quote:For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world. quote:If you had faith the size of a mustard seed, we can move this mountain. Don't look to satiation and feelings that cut short the path. Hold onto every just energy and emotion you have and use it with cognizance and prudence, endure and see your seed sown.
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HappyHippo posted:For the sake of equal voice and representation, please continue "No Nut November" until this fraud is overcome. And please pray.
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HappyHippo posted:For the sake of equal voice and representation, please continue "No Nut November" until this fraud is overcome. And please pray. I honestly can't tell if it's funnier if they're anti-polishing the bishop or eating pecans or somehow both. Any combo is loving hilarious.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I honestly can't tell if it's funnier if they're anti-polishing the bishop or eating pecans or somehow both. Any combo is loving hilarious. No-Nut November has mutated into something really loving bizarre.
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if it so happens that Biden Announces himself as President in January then it can be firmly pinned on those who broke the covenant of trust and engaged in sexual self-abuse and so therefore there is no need to engage in any further introspective behavior, ergo win.
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How Pornhub Destroyed the Republic.
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Yes, officials are talking about how to require people to get the vaccine.OP posted:I cannot post the link or excerpt it here. So here is the summary of the article. It is on the Denver 9 News website. quote:It is coming folks. Forced vaccinations. Well you'll probably not be "forced" but you won't be able to work and your movement will be greatly restricted. For all of you who are okay with the vaccine but have offered support to people who refuse it, we will be looking for your support if/when the time comes. You know what isn't safe? Contracting the virus! quote:To: dhs12345 quote:To: dhs12345 quote:To: dhs12345 quote:To: dhs12345 quote:To: dhs12345 Also just think if David Dees was still alive and how much... more so than usual he'd be losing his poo poo about the COVID vaccine.
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I can't even imagine being against a COVID vaccine. Seeing someone outside of my tiny pod sounds so good. I cherish shouting polite greetings to the lady who delivers the mail. Or o god getting to visit my family internationally. I know their brains are Swiss cheese and hatred so they think it's all a ChiCom hoax Obama conspiracy but gently caress off.
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The covid vaccine is something I'm willing to agree with Freep on, honestly. It hasn't been tested to see if there's long term side effects or harm, and I personally don't feel safe taking a vaccine that hasn't been properly vetted. Granted most of them are just insane conspiracy theorists who think it'll have nanomachines or it's the Mark of the Beast, rather than actual plausible reasons.
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quote:quote: Yea actually can we set aside a state for all the covid deniers so they can go there and brag about how smart they are for not getting vaccinated and cough on each other and whatever
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Twelve by Pies posted:It hasn't been tested to see if there's long term side effects or harm, and I personally don't feel safe taking a vaccine that hasn't been properly vetted. Honest question here, how would you deem a vaccine as 'properly vetted'? What are your criteria? I'm genuinely asking this in good faith.
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I like that guy in the military who's afraid to get vaccinated because it may be unsafe. Motherfucker don't we pay you to get shot at?
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Twelve by Pies posted:The covid vaccine is something I'm willing to agree with Freep on, honestly. It hasn't been tested to see if there's long term side effects or harm, and I personally don't feel safe taking a vaccine that hasn't been properly vetted. Granted most of them are just insane conspiracy theorists who think it'll have nanomachines or it's the Mark of the Beast, rather than actual plausible reasons. That's totally fair and I don't like how it's being rushed through but we're clearly talking about "has unknown side-effects" and not "nanomachines that make you vote democrat and thirst for lattes and sweet, sweet homosex." And part of the problem is you can't test for long term effects without a long term. It's in the name. We quite literally can't tell what the effects of a drug will be in 40 years because it hasn't been 40 years. So all we have is best models and while I'm not happy with it that's what we got unless someone can Bill and Ted us out of this. Also if you look up vaccine history they've never done longitudinal studies. They're kind of always rushing things out to try and help.
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Mantis42 posted:Motherfucker don't we pay you to get shot at? He's a veteran that posts on freep. Statistically speaking it's extremely likely he spends his service crunching numbers or inspecting tank treads in an air-conditioned base in Europe
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We also don't know what the long term effects of getting covid are either, so there's risks to not taking it too
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What's a "safe harbor" deadline? What makes it stronger than a normal deadline?
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Charlz Guybon posted:What's a "safe harbor" deadline? What makes it stronger than a normal deadline? By federal law, if the state certifies their electors before the safe harbor deadline, congress can't challenge their electoral votes.
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VitalSigns posted:We also don't know what the long term effects of getting covid are either, so there's risks to not taking it too Very true. I totally get being a little skeezed and scared by the vaccine(s) cause they can't be fully tested down to every single problem given the time-limits but... whelp global pandemic and they're trying the best they can with the time crunch. At a bare minimum get a god drat flu shot if you haven't already. It likely cuts down on comorbid symptoms and the worst case is you're less likely to get the flu. And the flu sucks.
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Mantis42 posted:I like that guy in the military who's afraid to get vaccinated because it may be unsafe. Found this on Twitter  George Washington required smallpox vaccinations for the Continental Army lol
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VitalSigns posted:By federal law, if the state certifies their electors before the safe harbor deadline, congress can't challenge their electoral votes. So, a hearing on the 9th will make it moot
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I work at a substance-abuse treatment organization and we got word we're in the first wave to get the vaccine and I will fuckin sleep outside in line like waiting for tickets to a rock concert to get it if I have to. I am done with this bullshit, my dad has been fighting stage IV lung cancer since summer of '19 and I haven't seen him since that November, the day I get told the vaccine is effective and I'm immune is the day I am flying home to see my folks. When I get back I'm going to sit down in a restaurant for the first time since early March to eat a steak dinner then spend a weekend playing poker at the dog track. Maybe the horse track, if I'm feeling fancy. Also ask anyone who has ever been in the military about the "peanut butter" shot.
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Xiahou Dun posted:That's totally fair and I don't like how it's being rushed through but we're clearly talking about "has unknown side-effects" and not "nanomachines that make you vote democrat and thirst for lattes and sweet, sweet homosex." I feel the same way too but I acknowledge there's no rational answer because yeah, like you said, we can't do long term testing without waiting a decade or so which isn't practical by any measure. It's a fear I recognize as irrational, but it's still a fear. I don't know how I feel, but I like won't have easy access to it for some time so I'll have to think about it.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I feel the same way too but I acknowledge there's no rational answer because yeah, like you said, we can't do long term testing without waiting a decade or so which isn't practical by any measure. It's a fear I recognize as irrational, but it's still a fear. I don't know how I feel, but I like won't have easy access to it for some time so I'll have to think about it. If it makes you feel better... We already know a lot about vaccine responses and side effects, most of the delay that's being skipped is petitioning for funds and getting approvals for tests and then ramping upmanufacturing. This is a simpler vaccine and we already have monitoring and reporting systems in place.
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Post poste posted:If it makes you feel better... It doesn't. Like I said I know it's an irrational fear, and it's not something that can really be treated by logic. I'm sure when it comes to it I'll do it, but I doubt I am going to be anywhere near the top of the list anyway so it's a moot point.
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skaboomizzy posted:Also ask anyone who has ever been in the military about the "peanut butter" shot. Oof, yeah, that was an unpleasant one. It feels like you've got a softball in your rear end cheek for two or three days after. I also got a smallpox vaccine, which wasn't as painful but had the fun of being fairly itchy and all the vaccine info said not to scratch it because you could infect your eyes or other body parts. Post poste posted:If it makes you feel better... That does make me feel a little better.
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As a guy who gets a monthly infusion of a very new drug at a hospital that has stopped a terminal disease in its tracks, I can say the unknown is better than the known of dying. Could I have severe issues with blood clots in ten years? Almost certainly. But I don't have to use a walker anymore with the added benefit of living more than two years. (Got diagnosed with ALS, got "down graded" to Unspecified Motor Neuron disease when I responded to IVIG treatment. Still terminal, but IVIG actually reversed some damage and paused the nerve degeneration clock.) But, at my infusion yesterday, I heard something unexpected - Most of the nurses are really unsure how they feel about the vaccine. They are all pro-science and anti-Trump, but seeing how his administration has functioned for the last four years has the staff worried it has been poorly rushed by people who don't believe in science. They want A vaccine. But they are terrified of A vaccine quickly brought to market by Trump and Co. They also say front-line workers should be dosed in waves or severe/unexpected side effects could shut down hospitals. tldr - Side effects are better than death.
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Well, admittedly the difference is dying of covid is also an unknown. This isn't me being conspiratorial, i.e. "it's not real/not that bad" but that I don't have COVID so the choice is not a binary die vs. possible side effects. It's possible I dont get covid, or I do get it one day and don't suffer too badly from it. Frankly I think if I got it, my odds are pretty good of surviving it as I have no outstanding health issues that would exacerbate it, so it'd be a really small chance I'd die from it. That said, I'd want it more to protect the people around me who would be vulnerable, and that is likely the overriding thought that will make me get it regardless. Also, glad to hear that treatment did wonders for you 
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RagnarokAngel posted:Well, admittedly the difference is dying of covid is also an unknown. This isn't me being conspiratorial, i.e. "it's not real/not that bad" but that I don't have COVID so the choice is not a binary die vs. possible side effects. It's possible I dont get covid, or I do get it one day and don't suffer too badly from it. Frankly I think if I got it, my odds are pretty good of surviving it as I have no outstanding health issues that would exacerbate it, so it'd be a really small chance I'd die from it.  Appreciate it!  By my criteria, I'm judging the harm that could come to others heavily. Also, unknown side effect doesn't necessarily equal death or harm. Someone getting covid most certainly does. That's why I would personally get it without regard to my own health.
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Freep: Free States vs. Vaccine States
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^ Vaccine States vs Free States of JonesingMantis42 posted:I like that guy in the military who's afraid to get vaccinated because it may be unsafe. Eh, fucker's probably a desk jockey or some logistics person in buttfuck nowhere Alaska if he is in the military. He's had about the same chance of seeing combat as president Taft had seeing his toes. SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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Generally if someone says they are in the "military" it's because they are in the air force or navy. Soldiers and marines will almost always claim their branch while airmen and sailors like to let people make assumptions. I'm guessing the number of Freepers who served in combat arms is extremely low. It's always the air force supply people who end up driving the lifted trucks with molon labe stickers.
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Yeah a lot of my family was in the army and my experience is that Army and Marines almost always describe themselves as soldier/Army soldier and marine respectively and will say “when I was in the Army/Marines.” If they were in combat they’ll at least mention where. “In the military” means they’re deliberately obfuscating to make you assume they’re not talking out their rear end. Hell its the same as any clique really. If you wanted to tell someone about your posting career to emphasize a point you’d undoubtedly specify that you were a something awful goon and not a 4chan pedo. E: also if you’re not familiar with the US military you might not know this but the Air Force is by far the chuddiest branch. Especially at the officer level they’ve been hugely influenced by right wing evangelicals. E2: and that’s not to shame non-combat people by any means but you can sort of tell. My best buddy in high school became a navy desk jockey but still had to see a few horrible things, like fishing kids’ bodies out of the water after a maritime accident in Korea. But he’s very candid that it was 1% horrible and 99% working out and playing D&D with other nerds, because he’s not trying to sound badass: Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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Midgetskydiver posted:I'm guessing the number of Freepers who served in combat arms is extremely low. It's always the air force supply people who end up driving the lifted trucks with molon labe stickers. I’ve seen this with people who were in the army, but were something like supply clerks or admin too. These are the types that made the initial smart move of staying the gently caress out of combat arms (unlike me  ), but later on for whatever stupid reason(s) got jealous of the combat arms people.
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The AF is the most anime branch, I have seen the swords they carry around.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I honestly can't tell if it's funnier if they're anti-polishing the bishop or eating pecans or somehow both. Any combo is loving hilarious. Point of order ... the correct phraseology is "beating the bishop", as compared to "polishing the apple" or "choking the chicken"
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