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DarkHorse posted:Voltaire was right, only the completely uncritical and unsophisticated experience happiness I believe the philosopher Quanxi said it best. "Ignorance is bliss, Chainsaw".
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Nov 30, 2020 12:08
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DarkHorse posted:Voltaire was right, only the completely uncritical and unsophisticated experience happiness You can enjoy andromeda while still appreciating that it has issues. This thread is deeply weird in its hatred for a game that's honestly pretty decent, when judged on its own merits and not as "the sequel to the game that came to my house and shot my dog, ME3".
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Nov 30, 2020 17:21
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it's not honestly pretty decent though, remove the mass effect setting and it has nothing going for it it's just a bad game Jerry!
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Nov 30, 2020 22:17
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Moola posted:it's not honestly pretty decent though, remove the mass effect setting and it has nothing going for it the combat is OK I guess?
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Nov 30, 2020 22:22
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Pattonesque posted:the combat is OK I guess? it could have been, in theory. But the brain dead AI and completely lacklustre encounter design ruins it
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Nov 30, 2020 22:24
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Rinkles posted:https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1334607935515873280?s=20 Wonder if his career would look different if ME3 had ended differently.
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Dec 3, 2020 22:47
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Rinkles posted:Wonder if his career would look different if ME3 had ended differently. if ME3 ends with a standard "good job on destroying the Reapers Shepard, here is a slideshow of Your Decisions" then BioWare is on Mass Effect 6 by now with two non-RPG spinoffs and a Netflix series like I can't stress enough how badly they blew it from this standpoint, they had a franchise they could have milked for decades
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Dec 3, 2020 22:52
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Loved how modding the MEA guns would generally cause them to do worse instead of better despite how many mats I threw at it
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Pattonesque posted:if ME3 ends with a standard "good job on destroying the Reapers Shepard, here is a slideshow of Your Decisions" then BioWare is on Mass Effect 6 by now with two non-RPG spinoffs and a Netflix series Yup. I went from playing through 1 & 2 multiple times so I could try different play styles, weapons, and narrative choices, excited to take them all through ME3... to never doing more than my one play through of ME3 and no interest in playing the others. They retroactively killed my enthusiasm for the past games And then Andromeda came out, I decided to give them one more chance (on sale) and welp.
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Dec 4, 2020 09:14
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So after 80 hours my second attempt to get through this game succeeded. Got all planets to 100% (prior to meridian), all companion quests done, movie night and the memory stuff, and most of the side quests. After giving this game close to three years to breathe and ignoring it, and going back in fresh with lowered expectations, I’m honestly surprised at how much I enjoyed this game. It’s got a lot of padding and I still far prefer every game in the trilogy, but there’s a lot of good in this game. I think the quests for the missing arks, Ryder’s memories, the companion quests, and movie night, was all very good content. The environment art and graphics are top notch, especially on poo poo like Jaal’s, Peebee’s, and Drack’s missions. The last bit of the game where your racing through meridian was awesome as well. Movie night was a great Citadel-ish bit of content and I loved it. The companions leave a bit to be desired, but while none but Drack really stood out for me, their banter between each other was really good. I played a female Ryder this time and think her voice actress does a phenomenal job. I know no one agrees with me, but after beating this I’m really hoping for a sequel to Andromeda. Even set a century later when the races have prospered, there’s a lot of mysteries left to be solved and since this game doesn’t have a cosmic horror for a big bad, revealing these mysteries could be fairly easy to do without ruining the atmosphere.
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Dec 4, 2020 09:34
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DarkHorse posted:Yup. I went from playing through 1 & 2 multiple times so I could try different play styles, weapons, and narrative choices, excited to take them all through ME3... to never doing more than my one play through of ME3 and no interest in playing the others. They retroactively killed my enthusiasm for the past games That's the other thing -- if ME3 ends competently then they probably could have weathered a game as bad as Andromeda. People would have been like "oh wow, something went wrong here, but it's probably a fluke" instead they're at the point where what they put out kind of has to be perfect. and they're not capable of that
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Dec 4, 2020 15:16
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chaosapiant posted:So after 80 hours my second attempt to get through this game succeeded. Got all planets to 100% (prior to meridian), all companion quests done, movie night and the memory stuff, and most of the side quests. I agree that the game is good but I think I'd rather have a sequel set in the milky way.
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chaosapiant posted:So after 80 hours my second attempt to get through this game succeeded. Got all planets to 100% (prior to meridian), all companion quests done, movie night and the memory stuff, and most of the side quests. this is a lot of words to tell us you have brain damage
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Dec 5, 2020 00:50
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one of the reasons for ME3's general shakiness (throughout the game, not just the ending) is that EA force-marched Bioware to produce and release ME3 in, what, eighteen months? changing the ending wouldn't stop the developers burning out and it wouldn't stop Bioware wasting years on procedural planets chasing that ME1-feel - only difference would be that Andromeda would probably be set in the Milky Way somewhere ultimately the only people who cared about the ending were the core fanbase - but most players aren't fans. most players don't even finish the games they buy
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Dec 5, 2020 01:00
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Lt. Danger posted:one of the reasons for ME3's general shakiness (throughout the game, not just the ending) is that EA force-marched Bioware to produce and release ME3 in, what, eighteen months? changing the ending wouldn't stop the developers burning out and it wouldn't stop Bioware wasting years on procedural planets chasing that ME1-feel - only difference would be that Andromeda would probably be set in the Milky Way somewhere Is this true? ME3 came out a full two years after ME2. I thought they had a B Team doing DLC while the main folks were beginning development on ME3. That said, ME3 is my fave in the series. It’s not as consistent as ME2, but the highs (Genophage and Geth/Quarian Conflict) are higher than the highs in ME2, not including the mostly awesome DLC. Granted, I’m one of the few who isn’t bothered by the ending. It’s got great music and the dialogue between Anderson and Shep is awesome. The Reaper poo poo/Starchild doesn’t bother me.
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Dec 5, 2020 01:57
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ok so I double-checked and original release date was going to be holidays 2011 but they got it pushed back to March 2012
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Dec 5, 2020 02:06
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I remember both Skyrim and ME3 were revealed during the Dec 2010 video game awards and I was super hard regarding these announcements. Good times! Simpler times! Younger times.... :sadfrenchtoast:
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Dec 5, 2020 02:13
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All I wanted was a fuckin upgraded graphic pack for me3 multiplayer
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Dec 5, 2020 02:16
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Is IS really surprising that the remaster isn’t touching multiplayer. I figured that’d be a gold mine and a way for BioWare to earn some more cool points.
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Dec 5, 2020 02:19
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chaosapiant posted:Is IS really surprising that the remaster isn’t touching multiplayer. I figured that’d be a gold mine and a way for BioWare to earn some more yeah really surprised remastered mp didn't happen since it was the most popular part of me3
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Dec 5, 2020 02:51
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chaosapiant posted:I remember both Skyrim and ME3 were revealed during the Dec 2010 video game awards and I was super hard regarding these announcements. Good times! Simpler times! Younger times.... :sadfrenchtoast: They had that trailer with Coats in Big Ben that wasn’t obviously ME until you saw the reapers descend. Pretty baller
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Dec 5, 2020 02:55
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chaosapiant posted:Is this true? ME3 came out a full two years after ME2. I thought they had a B Team doing DLC while the main folks were beginning development on ME3. I'm with you that ME3 is definitely not as bad as a lot of people claim, and it does have some really good high moments. But honestly I think the suicide mission of ME2 is a way higher high than anything in ME3, excluding that the final boss is kind of a disaster. It's just such a great moment after all the build up. ME2 wouldn't be looked at as arguably bioware's best game without it. Outside of that though I'd agree that some of the big plot/set piece moments of ME3 outshine the quests of ME2 by a little bit, it's just that the rest of it is so uneven
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Dec 5, 2020 13:57
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I feel Mass Effect as an IP is pretty much spent. The only way to potentially revitalise would be to return to the content format & direction of the original game. Whether that be some sort of sequel or reimagining. Won't happen though. After the Anthem flop and leadership / talent departure what cards they still have are riding all-in on DA4 (which may not even get finished). Then into the vault the IP goes, barring a miracle.
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DancingShade posted:I feel Mass Effect as an IP is pretty much spent. The only way to potentially revitalise would be to return to the content format & direction of the original game. Whether that be some sort of sequel or reimagining. Won't happen though. Did EA and Respawn break up? I would dig a ME game from Respawn. 
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Dec 6, 2020 02:45
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BioWare probably can’t make another good ME game but there are definitely more good ME games to be made
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Dec 6, 2020 03:11
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Dec 6, 2020 03:25
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Ainsley McTree posted:let obsidian do it Just not the outer worlds team
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Ainsley McTree posted:let obsidian do it If we're going to dream then I'd rather Obsidian made Tyranny 2. Only in full high budget, no expenses spared 3D. Pattonesque posted:Just not the outer worlds team Also this.
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Dec 6, 2020 05:06
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hell i'd take the outer worlds team over bioware if you gave me the choice
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Dec 6, 2020 05:42
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Ainsley McTree posted:hell i'd take the outer worlds team over bioware if you gave me the choice If Outer Worlds had a biotic charge power it would have been a better Mass Effect game than we've had recently
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Dec 6, 2020 06:15
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I think what we've reached a general consensus on is we'd rather be playing actual good games made by other development teams.
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Dec 6, 2020 07:39
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Ainsley McTree posted:let obsidian do it Mm no.
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Dec 6, 2020 10:58
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Has a series ever gone into a long hiatus and then emerged years later with a successful entry? Maybe Wasteland? I thought Wasteland 2 was rough and wouldn't necessarily call it a good game, but I had fun with it and thought Wasteland 3 was great.
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prometheusbound2 posted:Has a series ever gone into a long hiatus and then emerged years later with a successful entry? Maybe Wasteland? I thought Wasteland 2 was rough and wouldn't necessarily call it a good game, but I had fun with it and thought Wasteland 3 was great. The Shadowrun series, Devil May Cry, Doom, STREETS OF RAGE!!!, etc.
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exquisite tea posted:The Shadowrun series, Devil May Cry, Doom, STREETS OF RAGE!!!, etc. With a studio as shaky as bioware
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prometheusbound2 posted:Has a series ever gone into a long hiatus and then emerged years later with a successful entry? Elite
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If something good ever comes out of Bioware again it'll be because the company has been completely restructured (aka everybody is fired) and the people who replace them will be somewhat capable of long-term project management. But the initial question was "can a game series bounce back after a long time and be successful" and the answer is definitely yes, although it requires some vision and usually a different studio altogether to accomplish.
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The better question is: had a good game ever come out of a studio as completely screwed up as BioWare is right now?
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Eternal Darkness ended up being a really good game despite everything about its development and SK being a total mess at the time. But really it's more like, "who in their right minds would want to work for Bioware right now."
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