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Jeane Freeman, the Scottish health secretary, has told MSPs that the security service MI5 has told ministers the locations of freezers being used to store vaccines should remain secret.quote:Earlier this week Police Scotland refused to confirm or deny whether it would provide escorts for vaccine transports, but said it was offered health boards advice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStn70Ot4r0
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I think you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmOCsiZgAbg "Why contain it? s'cool."
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 17:53 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I'm sure Boris will do the right thing by next Friday. Read Pliny or Pericles?
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 04:33 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I'm sure Boris will do the right thing by next Friday. Suddenly step down instead of signing the thing that everybody expected them to sign leaving several months of confusion and delay before their eventual successor eventually signs it?
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 11:39 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:"Why contain it? s'cool." I still don't know how to process that this was the actual position of the UK government in March 2020 and the architect of the policy thought he was a analytical genius for coming up with it
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 11:58 |
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Dravs posted:I've been playing a lot of rear end Creed and I am pretty sure the country would be better off at the moment if it devolved back into Wessex, Murcia, East Anglia and Northumberland. Why stop there? It never recovered from the Saxon invasion. Really everything is the fault of Germans and Frenchmans. Norsemans were fine because their bad decisions would only last until someone killed them and set their holdings on fire.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:06 |
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Question: what does brexit mean
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:22 |
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multijoe posted:I still don't know how to process that this was the actual position of the UK government in March 2020 and the architect of the policy thought he was a analytical genius for coming up with it You mean in December 2020? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/05/sadiq-khan-heads-to-oxford-street-to-urge-public-to-go-shopping Wow that's a lot of individually irresponsible people that is in no way the fault of any kind of system or preventable by such.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:27 |
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gonadic io posted:You mean in December 2020? Let's see if the Christmas Truce holds.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:35 |
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Don't forget "eat out and help out" a.k.a. "We just got done with the first wave - what better thing to do than kickstart the second one by subsidising sit-down restaurant meals!".
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:39 |
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1335516120913235969?s=20quote:Hospitality businesses in tier 2 areas welcomed the news: under the government’s new Covid-19 restrictions, which are enforced by local authorities, a “substantial meal” must accompany all alcoholic drinks that they serve – meaning many pubs and bars without kitchens would have struggled to reopen after the national lockdown ended in England on Tuesday.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 13:27 |
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I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. It's clearly a factional piece. BUT, it contains so many direct transcripts, and contains figures that are hard to dispute, that there must be at least some elements of truth in it. I usually plump for incompetence over conspiracy, but such was the staggering incompetence on display in the GLU that some measure of active malice seems to be the only reasonable justification for the slowness in dealing with AS. (It is also clear that the GLU was incompetent as well as probably malicious). I also had not appreciated to what extent dealing with disciplinary cases was not Corbyn's responsibility, but McNicols's, and that any criticism for how Labour was handling them should have been directed mostly at McNicols, not Corbyn. I was uninformed, wrong, and I apologise.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 13:31 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. Thanks for the apology.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 13:35 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report.
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. Thanks, genuinely.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 14:57 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. I have liked reading your posts in the UK threads. It is a rare individual who's points of view and opinions actually change and evolve when presented with new information.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 15:06 |
gonadic io posted:You mean in December 2020? fully pedestrianized & loving it
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 15:40 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. its just a shame there are so many people who refuse to do what you've done
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 15:44 |
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Samovar posted:Thanks for the apology. Barry Foster posted:Thanks, genuinely. bedpan posted:I have liked reading your posts in the UK threads. It is a rare individual who's points of view and opinions actually change and evolve when presented with new information. Jose posted:its just a shame there are so many people who refuse to do what you've done Thanks all. You are very gracious. I was expecting a bit of poo poo, given that I'd been an rear end in a top hat, and had resolved not to respond as it would have been justified. Admitting one is wrong about something is hard. One's ego is involved, and one gets committed to an argument and almost loses sight of what it is one is arguing about, if that makes sense. Changing one's mind is even harder, especially when it is around something like political beliefs. They are an integral part of one's identity, so if one is wrong about something so fundamental, then what else could one be wrong about? I'm still not as left as most of the people here and on D&D, but I am still moving (as I think I have been my whole life), and while I am still not a huge fan of Corbyn (especially as a leader), I definitely judge him a lot less harshly than I did, and have recognised the extent to which he was subject to the most appalling media coverage - not just from the expected quarters like the DM, but also from the Guardian etc.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 18:49 |
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Possibly the most annoying thing is the ehrc report backs up a lot of the labour report and people refuse to read that either I can at least understand someone refusing to read the labour produced report
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 19:35 |
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Jose posted:Possibly the most annoying thing is the ehrc report backs up a lot of the labour report and people refuse to read that either Yeah, I read most of that one too and there’s very little contradiction between them, and some mutual reinforcement.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 19:44 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. To a certain extent, you're not to blame. The media have actively obscured any details that are not supportive of the narrative Corbyn === anti-Semitism. I think it is completely fair to not expect someone to know who the NEC, the General Secretary and the Legal and Complaints unit are. The press have not informed anyone about the party disciplinary procedures at all, (it's as if it was never about party disciplinary procedures in the first place), they have ensured public know the ERHC report findings have TWO major breaches, but the press have gone out of their way to avoid mentioning what they actually are. People are still demanding Corbyn apologize, as if he hasn't done that repeatedly already. It's all been carefully misconstrued in the general perception. So yeah, the moment you dig even slightly you end up with: whaaa Corbyn was not allowed to interfere in disputes when everyone was telling him too? whhhuuh the guy actively ignoring the inbox in preference of booting greens and trots is the same guy who was the whistleblower on the performance of the very department he ran? huh the actual report breaches were the leadership office demanding stricter penalties while the new Gen Sec was ill with cancer? eeehhh, all the reforms only happened when the new Corbyn friendly Gen Sec Took Over? It's kinda mind-blowing how different these details make the whole thing look. Especially when you remember that Tom Watson, Hodge, every member of the PLP et al... Do know who the general sec is, do know that the complaints mechanism is outside of Corbyns command, do know who Sam Mathews is and how he ran his team, and dispite this look at how they spoke out to the press to keep you uninformed.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:08 |
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Desiderata posted:they have ensured public know the ERHC report findings have TWO major breaches, but the press have gone out of their way to avoid mentioning what they actually are. https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1322131161297149953?s=20
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 22:43 |
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therattle posted:Thanks all. You are very gracious. I was expecting a bit of poo poo, given that I'd been an rear end in a top hat, and had resolved not to respond as it would have been justified. to be fair, a lot of people who are pretty far left are not fans of corbyn either, especially his leadership. Good for you for reading sources and making up your own mind.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 00:49 |
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therattle posted:Yeah, I read most of that one too and there’s very little contradiction between them, and some mutual reinforcement. the big takeaway from all this is that then UK is insanely racist because a bunch of racists successfully conspired to paint the most anti-racist leader in UK political history as a racist its so loving depressing its unreal
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:05 |
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https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1335695666706862082
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:13 |
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macron said so long and thanks for all the fish
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:22 |
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sink into the ocean already jesus christ
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 01:22 |
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therattle posted:I posted in here a few weeks ago about Corbyn and AS, then, as told, hosed off the D&D and did the same. Unsurprisingly, the response was similar, so I decided to actually read the leaked report. This is maybe the most adult thing ever posted in cspam
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 02:46 |
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UK Politics thread: please stop telling me fish is sorted.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 02:47 |
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therattle posted:Thanks all. You are very gracious. I was expecting a bit of poo poo, given that I'd been an rear end in a top hat, and had resolved not to respond as it would have been justified. if it makes you feel any better there's little evidence that anyone who was going to vote labour decided not to because of the a/s stuff. it was more his positions on brexit, the skripals, the ira, looking scruffy, being weaselly, only getting two Es at A level, never having a proper job, having no sense of humour and so on
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 03:48 |
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just give up on a deal and end this tedious positioning and will-they-won't-they bullshit already!!!
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 06:37 |
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biden won't save you, he loves the irish more
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Judakel posted:biden won't save you, he loves the irish more I look forward to the Indian equivalent of the Economist's op-eds on the fact that Britain should not be given food aid for it'd damage the moral fibre of the population.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 11:01 |
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This always baffled me, I mean yeah the U.S. is huge and probably a lucrative trading partner...but wouldn't having a trading block that you are geographically a lot closer to be far more preferable?
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 12:55 |
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An insane mind posted:This always baffled me, I mean yeah the U.S. is huge and probably a lucrative trading partner...but wouldn't having a trading block that you are geographically a lot closer to be far more preferable? It's preferable to have a trading partner that is insisting that you lower your standards, than one closer which keeps insisting that you raise them instead.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 13:03 |
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e.g.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35871960 posted:Ed Miliband, the former Labour leader, says that the EU can take the credit for cleaner beaches, water and air.
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# ? Dec 7, 2020 13:05 |
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An insane mind posted:This always baffled me, I mean yeah the U.S. is huge and probably a lucrative trading partner...but wouldn't having a trading block that you are geographically a lot closer to be far more preferable?
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gonadic io posted:e.g. lmao they're gonna bring back the great smog of london and some bastard op ed shithead is gonna say it's cause of all the immigrants and their spicy cooking
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