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Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Strategic Tea posted:

I'm going to where a mask where my country's scientists tell me it is necessary, not just where I, as a history graduate working in an office, think it makes sense to wear one.

Unless you're in one of the handful of countries that are actually controlling this, it should be clear that your country's scientists are doing a lovely job and you should be behaving a lot more cautiously than their recommendations.

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Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
to be fair, most countries' scientists are screaming at their politicians to stop being hosed up capitalist murderers

otoh, some of them help their politicians murder, that's why in germany a scientist earned the hashtag #SterbenMitStreeck or #DyingWithStreeck for advocating for the right wing version of herd immunity where over a million germans die and everyone gets sick, while being supported by a dedicated PR company to spread this idea, paid by ... ???

https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336287641776640001https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336288880190951426https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336294717160644610

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
Jenna Ellis, Turmp's other lawyer, got the covids. Who could have seen this coming.

WTFBEES
Apr 21, 2005

butt

A request - someone in this thread shared a Tweet with stats on deaths, cancer cases, etc that we should expect downstream of and coincidental / unrelated to COVID vaccinations. Anyone happen to have this handy?

Thanks.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Zugzwang posted:

Jenna Ellis, Turmp's other lawyer, got the covids. Who could have seen this coming.

:ohdear: that does not bode well for trump getting good lawyers in the future

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Mithaldu posted:

:ohdear: that does not bode well for trump getting good lawyers in the future

Surely Trump will get get a good legal team this time.

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Blitter posted:

The point is you can call whatever you want a "mask mandate" but if you look at what epidemiologists consider an effective mask mandate, and what is used in models, you actually don't.

It's worse than a recommendation because it misleads people into thinking they're doing "enough" when it's not.

To be clear, sitting around spread out in even a large enclosed room without masks is loving idiotic and no one should pretend that it's adhering to any kind of sound health policy.

Thanks for reminding me that I will be supervising exam sessions all day on Saturday with two groups of people who I think don't have to wear masks because they're in a school (I don't actually know the loving regulations anywhere anymore because Switzerland is a goddamned shitshow of independent restrictions). I'll be wearing a mask and a coat because I will have the loving windows open.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Mithaldu posted:

to be fair, most countries' scientists are screaming at their politicians to stop being hosed up capitalist murderers

otoh, some of them help their politicians murder, that's why in germany a scientist earned the hashtag #SterbenMitStreeck or #DyingWithStreeck for advocating for the right wing version of herd immunity where over a million germans die and everyone gets sick, while being supported by a dedicated PR company to spread this idea, paid by ... ???

https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336287641776640001https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336288880190951426https://twitter.com/ben_geisler/status/1336294717160644610

Always trust science, never trust scientists.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I was on a conference call this morning with a group that included one guy who lives in Texas but had traveled to the SF Bay Area for a few days last week for work. He kicks things off saying "Sure is good to be back here, I felt like I was in jail last week. Y'all sure are taking this virus thing seriously." The pregnant pause was delicious before everyone else (all in the bay area) decided to not start anything and moved on.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

freebooter posted:

An actually smart America First president would have nationalised Pfizer in April

If Trump had nationalized Pfizer in April Kushner would have sold it for parts by now

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

I had to venture out into public today for medicine and there were maybe 50% of the people I saw wearing any kind of face covering (not gonna call them all masks) and less social distancing. I don't get it, I'll never get it, these people are awful.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Didn't you hear that there's a vaccine? The pandemic is over

Me? Oh I haven't been vaccinated, why do you ask?

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Blitter posted:

It's mind boggling to me that people are still dancing around rules lawyering details of "mask mandates".

There is 1 key element to an effective mask mandate - it is "No interaction outside your cohort without a mask on, unless you are outdoors and socially distanced". This is usually coupled with "No non-essential loving around, even with a mask on" because masks are not 100% effective.

If you have indoor dining, at any time, you do not have useful mask mandate.

If you have bars open at any time, you do not have useful mask mandate

If you have any kind of non-essential public gatherings you do not have useful mask mandate.

No exceptions.

Yeah, this. If you are in a region where the virus is so widespread that mask usage is going to make a difference, you should be in lockdown, not having public debate about whether you should have to wear them into a restaurant or whatever.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


We're getting so many cases to call at work right now and I am tired. Please stay at home and not die or get your lungs so hosed up that you need supplemental oxygen

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

https://twitter.com/DezBryant/status/1336469570262020102
https://twitter.com/StepnerWMAR/status/1336478485829857282
https://twitter.com/DezBryant/status/1336473462668464128

Lol NFL does not care about COVID at all. Those tweets he sent were like immediately before kickoff. His previous tests on the day were inconclusive but they let him go on field *without a mask* for pregame warmups until his last test at the stadium came back positive and they scratched him from the game. Now he's bitching about it on twitter.

Edit: Like half the loving Ravens missed last week's game because they had COVID, and the commentators are talking about it like they came back from a 1 game suspension or something. Stupid assholes probably see 20 year old NFL stars bounce back from Covid in a week and assume they could do the same.

Edit 2: Oh yeah and the social media people are scrubbing all the pictures they tweeted earlier of Dez hugging and poo poo with people pregame. Like full blown "oh god make this disappear" mode.

explosivo fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Dec 9, 2020

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
i was just watching this stream with a doctor who treats covid patients and he mentions he faces 8+ malpractice suits from the families of people who died of covid, because he "treated them for an illness that doesn't exist" :eng99:

e: gently caress it keeps going and he has so many horror stories -- his hospital for example laid off residents who got sick with covid and were sick for too long, meanwhile hospital admin had dibs on PPE

(the segment starts roughly when she puts the doctor's name text on screen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESw58AMqPT0

Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Dec 9, 2020

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

explosivo posted:

https://twitter.com/DezBryant/status/1336469570262020102
https://twitter.com/StepnerWMAR/status/1336478485829857282
https://twitter.com/DezBryant/status/1336473462668464128

Lol NFL does not care about COVID at all. Those tweets he sent were like immediately before kickoff. His previous tests on the day were inconclusive but they let him go on field *without a mask* for pregame warmups until his last test at the stadium came back positive and they scratched him from the game. Now he's bitching about it on twitter.

Edit: Like half the loving Ravens missed last week's game because they had COVID, and the commentators are talking about it like they came back from a 1 game suspension or something. Stupid assholes probably see 20 year old NFL stars bounce back from Covid in a week and assume they could do the same.

Edit 2: Oh yeah and the social media people are scrubbing all the pictures they tweeted earlier of Dez hugging and poo poo with people pregame. Like full blown "oh god make this disappear" mode.

I wouldn't expect the sports league that knowingly turns its players brains into swiss cheese to care, no.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
OH GOD NO NOT FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
The spice bodies for the Blood Sport Meatgrinder must flow.

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013
lol
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1336478192916459522

naem
May 29, 2011

gently caress these people

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Here's a horrifying listical



They're using data from covidtracking.com and the list is already out of date, there were 2,622 covid deaths on December 8. The next three days are going to have even higher numbers.

E: Worldometers.com currently says 2,913 but that might not be final

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 9, 2020

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
source for that?

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/TravelWeeklyUS/status/1334274153084403714

https://twitter.com/business/status/1336481198869270529

Congrats on almost making it a week. :toot:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Mithaldu posted:

source for that?

Couldn't track down the original source, but I did find a bunch of different versions which included the Battle of Antietam from the Civil War at #2 with 3,600 deaths

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]


they lost the election so now its about setting up conditions for rioting in biden's first 100 holy moly

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

OMFG FURRY posted:

they lost the election so now its about setting up conditions for rioting in biden's first 100 holy moly

Isn't that what the "no withholding" for Military and federal paychecks is for? Suddenly their taxes double in January?

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Couldn't track down the original source, but I did find a bunch of different versions which included the Battle of Antietam from the Civil War at #2 with 3,600 deaths
drat there are quite a few versions of this

at this point these people deserve a civil war

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Couldn't track down the original source, but I did find a bunch of different versions which included the Battle of Antietam from the Civil War at #2 with 3,600 deaths

I feel like D-Day should be on here too? And presumably some days from the Spanish flu?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
The sad thing is so many people are gonna be all 'gently caress ya 600 bux!' and not 'oh gently caress this is going to implode our country'

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

freebooter posted:

I feel like D-Day should be on here too? And presumably some days from the Spanish flu?

The list appears to be within the US only

That said, about 2500 Americans died on D Day so it would still be pretty low on the list

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Now I want to know the crazy compound German word for protesting against wearing a mandated mask during a global pandemic.

naem
May 29, 2011

EvilJoven posted:

The sad thing is so many people are gonna be all 'gently caress ya 600 bux!' and not 'oh gently caress this is going to implode our country'

the full stimulus with extended unemployment will get passed after Jan, it’s the looming deadline that will destroy millions of american’s lives the day after christmas as the previous extension ends that is currently at stake

naem
May 29, 2011

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Ultimate Mango posted:

Now I want to know the crazy compound German word for protesting against wearing a mandated mask during a global pandemic.

Maskenverweigererkundgebung :3:

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Mithaldu posted:

Maskenverweigererkundgebung :3:

Holky loving poo poo you aren’t kidding that is amazing and made my day.

Starks
Sep 24, 2006


Something fucky about this. Do they not include Spanish flu for some reason?

Edit: according to this 195,000 Americans died in October 1918 from Spanish flu which is an average of 6900 a day: https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-deaths-october-1918

Starks fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Dec 9, 2020

Guttlesswonder
Mar 17, 2006

I'll take two adult and two kids tickets for "Alien Erection" please

Starks posted:

Something fucky about this. Do they not include Spanish flu for some reason?

Can I get cumulative death rates for these days? I heard no one else died on the #1 day, so this all averages out to around 8,000ish a day. Prove it wrong.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Drop anything older than 100 years from that list and you'd mostly sidestep the issues without lying too much about it. And add D-Day.

...And call it "The deadliest days of the last century for the Americans"

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greazeball
Feb 4, 2003




:actually: it should be deadliest events in American history since it isn't counting deaths by other causes

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