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Koramei posted:Reading about South Korea's authoritarian past, I've heard people explain this phenomenon this way: being in a totalitarian regime is mostly not actually that different--when you happen to be one of those within the "envelope" of people that the regime dictates it is okay to be. The issue is when the regime changes that envelope, as it's able to do capriciously
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landgrabber posted:I listened to you guys's show and thought it was really good. It already sounds really good but if you want audio mixing/production or design work, I'd be absolutely willing to help out Thanks I appreciate it, it's feizhouxiongdi2's journey of discovery on what it means to be Chinese outside of the CCP's grip. I'd appreciate any advice you have, we're kind of just figuring it out as we go. Especially the audio, you don't have plat so I can't PM you, but if you email contact@withchinesecharacteristics.com we can chat.
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# ? Oct 25, 2020 01:47 |
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Sorry wrong thread
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# ? Nov 19, 2020 00:31 |
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1334795593286373377
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 10:57 |
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That's the most nothing article ever. There's zero detail and a bunch of posturing.
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 12:14 |
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Gort posted:That's the most nothing article ever. There's zero detail and a bunch of posturing. It is certainly part of a trend.
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 13:36 |
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China has the antifa super soldier serum, gently caress
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 13:47 |
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this is literally the journalistic version of 'I saw China in the closet making super soldiers and a super soldier looked at me'
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 14:37 |
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What uniform and what sigil should Captain China sport? I am thinking Guandao should definitely be the main weapon.
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 14:46 |
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They gave one soldier all of strong dominant genes and the other all the flawed recessive genes.
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 17:56 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:guy who spent some time in the xinjiang The sheer scale of these things is like a new industrialization of state cruelty.
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# ? Dec 4, 2020 18:05 |
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There is now a Chinese flag on the Moon. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55192692 E: landing footage from a few days ago https://youtu.be/VS9zr6MrCiM Description of takeoff: https://youtu.be/mBv-QoOkaBk America Inc. fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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The US military has a history of doing experimentation on soldiers, so even if this were true China wouldn't be uniquely bad in this regard. I would bet the US military has proposed or may be researching something similar. E: GreyjoyBastard posted:guy who spent some time in the xinjiang Horrible stuff, it also seems to mesh with other accounts. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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Sorry to post 3 times in a row, but wow how did I miss this:quote:In defending the detention camps to counterparts, Chinese diplomats have mounted some novel arguments. They have told American officials, for example, that Beijing is applying in Xinjiang best practices it gleaned from studying the United States. Source China's government is literally telling on itself by comparing the Uighur camps to Guantanamo loving Bay.
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# ? Dec 5, 2020 09:04 |
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Whataboutism does make sense when it's American official doing the complaining, but you'd hope the practices of the USA would be a low bar to clear and not a gold standard.
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Not So Fast posted:Whataboutism does make sense when it's American official doing the complaining, but you'd hope the practices of the USA would be a low bar to clear and not a gold standard. They didn't say they copied them and thus meet the same low bar, they gleaned "best practices" from them. Ramping it up from ~1000 people to a million plus and growing, the organ harvesting, rape tables, and the stuff like setting up favored-ethnicity-men with spouses of the people sent off to the camps were their own creative improvements on the already horrible formula. Anyways an Abu Ghraib comparison is at least more comparable w/r/t the torture and rapey elements. Not that "We're just running 1200 Guantanamo Bays, you see." sounds much better. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Dec 6, 2020 |
# ? Dec 6, 2020 03:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UROPgnjfdB0
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 03:50 |
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Now this is how you appeal to the laobaixing of Hong Kong! Mainland-born, Hong Kong-based financiers launch new Bauhinia Party aimed at reforming Legco, restraining ‘extremist forces’ https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3112771/mainland-born-hong-kong-based-financiers-launch-new
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 12:59 |
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I thought that part of the basis of Guantanamo Bay was that human and civil rights don't apply because it's not American soil, just land that was rented out. So I guess that means they're claiming that Xinjiang isn't Chinese soil.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 22:43 |
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France is doing it too, apparently: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55243014 Also note the reference to "other nations," plural. I guess cyborg super-soldiers are going to be a thing all over the place now. Either that, or everyone will end up rejecting the idea as impractical. Hard to say. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 9, 2020 |
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Silver2195 posted:France is doing it too, apparently: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55243014 https://www.darpa.mil/program/our-research/darpa-and-the-brain-initiative https://www.vice.com/en/article/xwee47/heres-the-pentagons-terrifying-plan-for-cyborg-supersoldiers The Western researchers thus far have a strong objection to genetic manipulation but are fine with seeming unlimited control and modification through all other means.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:57 |
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Gene therapy etc has been going on for a long time this is mostly a quip to try to delegitimize the enemy. Even though we tried to recruit psi soldiers in the loving 70s etc and drugged soldiers to see if their intelligence increased We are loving worse. it is doubtful the US wouldn't utilize gene therapy to increase combat effectiveness.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 05:02 |
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:The Western researchers thus far have a strong objection to genetic manipulation but are fine with seeming unlimited control and modification through all other means. Can you elaborate?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Gene therapy etc has been going on for a long time this is mostly a quip to try to delegitimize the enemy. Even though we tried to recruit psi soldiers in the loving 70s etc and drugged soldiers to see if their intelligence increased I mean, the tweet seems to be implying human testing of these things is going on in China. Is the US shoving cyborg parts into soldiers or genetically modifying them? France stuck a microchip in a pig and there's certainly research into these fields going on in the US and many other places, but that's not exactly the same thing.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 15:12 |
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Warbadger posted:I mean, the tweet seems to be implying human testing of these things is going on in China. Is the US shoving cyborg parts into soldiers or genetically modifying them? France stuck a microchip in a pig and there's certainly research into these fields going on in the US and many other places, but that's not exactly the same thing. Project MKULTRA did get pretty wild.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 15:28 |
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Warbadger posted:I mean, the tweet seems to be implying human testing of these things is going on in China. Is the US shoving cyborg parts into soldiers or genetically modifying them? France stuck a microchip in a pig and there's certainly research into these fields going on in the US and many other places, but that's not exactly the same thing. China probably just glued some microchips onto PLA soldiers and said "差不多".
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 15:48 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Can you elaborate? The view in China is generally that if you can make someone smarter it doesn't matter morally whether you're using a gene therapy or a brain implant. They still have ethics and safety concerns though. There was a Chinese scientist who created an HIV resistant baby and he was arrested. The idea that they're cranking out an assembly line of super soldiers is very sensationalist. Warbadger posted:Is the US shoving cyborg parts into soldiers or genetically modifying them? They have ambitions for many other implant features like the ability to dull pain, wire an HUD or video feed directly to your visual cortex, treat PTSD and depression, increase learning speed to superhuman levels, reduce fear, reduce the need for sleep, heal rapidly, and reduce hunger. Some of that is in combination with drug dispensing implants. Because of the taboo on genetic enhancement they claim to only research medicine. The former DARPA director noted that they are researching genetic engineering that would let soldiers resist bioweapons and disease. That's clearly smudging the line between medicine and enhancement and eventually they are just going to drop the pretense.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 17:31 |
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:In the West it's acceptable to find genetic cures for disabilities or disease but it's forbidden to create superhuman abilities in people through gene editing. There are no such restrictions with cybernetics. You're talking about non-invasive neural control devices and a surgery to repair a severed spine which are not the same thing as conducting human cyborg experiments any more than the POWERGLOVE was or getting a pacemaker. The short term memory implant thing would be, but it seems like they ran the experiments on people who already had electrode implants as part of a brain mapping program to treat seizures so it's borderline. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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Warbadger posted:You're talking about non-invasive neural control devices and a surgery to repair a severed spine which are not the same thing as conducting human cyborg experiments any more than the POWERGLOVE was or getting a pacemaker. The short term memory implant thing would be, but it seems like they ran the experiments on people who already had electrode implants as part of a brain mapping program to treat seizures so it's borderline. Remember this whole thing is based on a tweet with no evidence or details. Also, when we do it it's fine maybe borderline at most, when China does it its heinous and crosses the line. GlassEye-Boy fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Remember this whole thing is based on a tweet with no evidence or details. Also, when we do it it's fine maybe borderline at most, when China does it its heinous and crosses the line. Oh yeah, I doubt China is making cyborg supersoldiers or whatever, this is more in response to "we're worse" thing in response to said tweet. China's probably just researching it as a possibility like everyone else is - but if they're actually doing gene therapy or whatever on human test subjects to make better soldiers then yeah, nobody else is doing that right now. Also, generally speaking, the country trying to make genocide look better by claiming they're just doing Guantanamo Bay x1200 while also trying to annex a sea (and bits of various neighbors) in the midst of a massive military buildup is probably going to get such things seen in a worse light than most other places. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Also, when we do it it's fine maybe borderline at most, when China does it its heinous and crosses the line. Well, when you remove all context and reduce it to a completely nonsense thought-terminating cliche like this I sure do agree that China Is Doing Nothing Wrong.
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A Doomed Purloiner posted:China probably just glued some microchips onto PLA soldiers and said "差不多". thanks for this racist shitpost, op. really adds to the thread
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# ? Dec 11, 2020 03:29 |
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Warbadger posted:You're talking about non-invasive neural control devices and a surgery to repair a severed spine which are not the same thing as conducting human cyborg experiments any more than the POWERGLOVE was or getting a pacemaker. The short term memory implant thing would be, but it seems like they ran the experiments on people who already had electrode implants as part of a brain mapping program to treat seizures so it's borderline. lol you're talking about a loving tweet with no sources that's a US military ghoul all "THE GODDAMN CHICOMS ARE MAKIN SUPER SOLDIERS AND JOE BIDEN DOESN'T WANT TO NUKE THEM, THE PUSSY" and you're already trying to explain when we make hypothetical non-existent super people it's actually fine but when china does it it's scary.
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# ? Dec 11, 2020 04:23 |
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Warbadger posted:You're talking about non-invasive neural control devices and a surgery to repair a severed spine which are not the same thing as conducting human cyborg experiments any more than the POWERGLOVE was or getting a pacemaker. https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2015-10-05 The goal of their combined research is a soldier that can view information through a visual cortex implant, go days without sleeping or performance loss, mute fear and pain, utilize enhanced strength, shrug off mental trauma, heal at superhuman rates, regulate sleep on demand, and dynamically resist bioweapons. All they're trying to do is create a JC Denton cyborg instead of an Adam Jensen cyborg. You have to be a special kind of agency to inspire at least 3 different Black Mirror episodes lmao.
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# ? Dec 11, 2020 05:08 |
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"strange feelings re Daisy" posted:You are a very gullible person.
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# ? Dec 12, 2020 09:49 |
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DARPA program managers propose dumb poo poo all the time, it doesn't mean it gets anywhere ornus even feasible. Their job is to propose and manage high probability of failure out there stuff.
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Spazzle posted:DARPA program managers propose dumb poo poo all the time, it doesn't mean it gets anywhere ornus even feasible. Their job is to propose and manage high probability of failure out there stuff. You're telling me they're never building the flying submarine designed to insert Navy SEALs into Bin Laden's compound and come up through his toilet? quote:* Flight: The minimal required airborne tactical radius of the sub-plane is 1000 nautical miles (nm). The minimum surface tactical radius is 100 nautical miles. The minimum subsurface tactical range is 12 nautical miles. Note that the ranges quoted are one-way ranges. The platform would need to be able to fly to a location, insert and extract personnel without refueling and this would require the total operational range to be 1000 nm airborne, 200 nm surface, 24 nm under water.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/nz0g306v8c/china-tainted-cottonquote:A marked shift in China’s approach to the region can be traced back to two brutal attacks on pedestrians and commuters in Beijing in 2013 and the city of Kunming in 2014, blamed by China on Uighur Islamists and separatists.
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# ? Dec 20, 2020 09:22 |
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I haven't posted or lurked in the China thread for a long time, but recieved some peanut brittle in a gift basket and as soon as I put it in my mouth I felt compelled. Merry Christmas.
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