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Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Kamrat posted:

Everyone was talking about that director back in the day but it didn't feel like a smart AI made the changes, it just felt random. This one time when it went badly in the game the director kept throwing hordes at us over and over until we where completely wiped out, it was just frustrating.

One thing I used to do when I was big into it was turn on the dev cheat to have the director status printed on screen and if you watch it as you go on it pretty much does the same thing in the same places most of the time, the intervals between hoards don't really vary too much, the only thing that's noticably different is tank placements but even those after you play enough you can guess where it'll be by process of elimination

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Squeezy Farm
Jun 16, 2009

verbal enema posted:

wow there is not a good community in the BGIII game loooootta racial and homophobia slurs

Man goddamnit

Lol. THe one match i played of it there was a guy with using text to speech to recite some white supremacist thing all game.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
idea: Minecraft but it’s classic doom and it’s about making classic doom maps.

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost

verbal enema posted:

oh you mean like the Zombie Master 1&2 mod for hl2

that game whipped HARDCORE rear end

2007: the year I built a new computer after playing almost no games since 2003, and then spent 9 months playing nothing but ZM before playing anything new, anything I'd missed in those four years, or even the game I'd installed in order to play the mod.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


verbal enema posted:

wow there is not a good community in the BGIII game loooootta racial and homophobia slurs

Man goddamnit

I barely played BG2 at the time Source was newish because the original was so much better.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

verbal enema posted:

wow there is not a good community in the BGIII game loooootta racial and homophobia slurs

Man goddamnit

Groovelord Neato posted:

I barely played BG2 at the time Source was newish because the original was so much better.

Okay I give up, what is "BG" here? The only thing I can think of is "Baldur's Gate" but I'm not sure that would make any sense in the Early FPS thread (and I didn't even know there was a multiplayer/community element to BG3, if so).

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Okay I give up, what is "BG" here? The only thing I can think of is "Baldur's Gate" but I'm not sure that would make any sense in the Early FPS thread (and I didn't even know there was a multiplayer/community element to BG3, if so).
Probably Battle Grounds, a multiplayer mod (now a standalone free game) with an American Revolutionary War setting.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Okay I give up, what is "BG" here? The only thing I can think of is "Baldur's Gate" but I'm not sure that would make any sense in the Early FPS thread (and I didn't even know there was a multiplayer/community element to BG3, if so).

The Battle Grounds, GoldSrc mod turned Sourcemod. I still play it a bit, but I make sure to shut off any voice comms and aim especially at anyone with chuddy names. Unfortunately there's not much else out there for the weird niche of FPS games where the guns suck and the melee kinda sucks too but it's fun because it sucks for everyone. Fistful of Frags is another decent sourcemod that scratches that kinda itch, although the general organization of the gamemodes and stuff have regressed since it first came out, now it's just TDM or gungame.

e:f;b

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Fistful of Frags got all the fun patched out of it pretty much. But it was fun in its time

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Jehde posted:

The Battle Grounds, GoldSrc mod turned Sourcemod. I still play it a bit, but I make sure to shut off any voice comms and aim especially at anyone with chuddy names. Unfortunately there's not much else out there for the weird niche of FPS games where the guns suck and the melee kinda sucks too but it's fun because it sucks for everyone. Fistful of Frags is another decent sourcemod that scratches that kinda itch, although the general organization of the gamemodes and stuff have regressed since it first came out, now it's just TDM or gungame.

e:f;b

Is Pirates, Vikings, and knights still around?

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

skasion posted:

Fistful of Frags got all the fun patched out of it pretty much. But it was fun in its time

It's still ok imo

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Okay I give up, what is "BG" here? The only thing I can think of is "Baldur's Gate" but I'm not sure that would make any sense in the Early FPS thread (and I didn't even know there was a multiplayer/community element to BG3, if so).

Battlegrounds - a janky but incredibly fun American Revolutionary War mod for Half-Life (the sequels are Source and are inferior). We were shortening it as we;'d been discussing it for a few posts prior.

Also reminds me how much matchmaking in online game sucks - in the smaller games like that there'd be a few servers and you'd get a reputation or friends on it. I think I played Day of Defeat 90 percent of the time on one specific server (and it'd crashed if you got more than 255 kills which I'd purposely do from time to time).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-YFW--Rkc

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Dec 12, 2020

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

site posted:

One thing I used to do when I was big into it was turn on the dev cheat to have the director status printed on screen and if you watch it as you go on it pretty much does the same thing in the same places most of the time, the intervals between hoards don't really vary too much, the only thing that's noticably different is tank placements but even those after you play enough you can guess where it'll be by process of elimination

Yeah I don't know if it was a bug or what but at the time I was thinking of all that hype around the super smart director and how much bullshit that was, it wasn't even the only time something like that happened.

Theres places that always spawn a tank no matter what as well right?

Anyway, I always felt that l4d offered a more pure experience compared to 2, the new special infected didn't feel that well thought out and the melee weapons felt more like fluff, I think if they spent more than a year cranking that one out they could've polished it better. Too bad theres so many unfixed bugs in 1 since it was abandoned so fast.

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost

Twerk from Home posted:

Is Pirates, Vikings, and knights still around?

Yes! PVK2 is still actively being developed, it just had a new assassin character added on Halloween and it's peaking at ~30 - 50 players each day. I can't believe it's still going just like I can't believe I'm aware that it's still going since I haven't actually played it in a decade.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
This is making me curious. Are there still any decently popular multiplayer Goldsrc or Source mods out there?

I’ve always preferred the feel Quake lineage games, and still play a lot of Team Fortress/Titanfall/Apex because for the most part they scratch any multiplayer itch I have. I wouldn’t mind having another game or two to jump into on occasion.

Oh and by decently populated I mean I could find a game without needing discord or steam groups. A server or two population is enough for me.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Kamrat posted:

Theres places that always spawn a tank no matter what as well right?

iirc

it is possible for a map to not spawn a tank at all (maybe not on expert I dunno) just like it can spawn 2,

The ai can technically spawn a tank anywhere the level geometry allows, like a player can in vs, but it most often chooses to in the set piece arenas or the chokepoint hallways

I think finales were the only place tanks always show up

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!

verbal enema posted:

found the forums for Battlegrounds 1 the hl1 revolutionary war mod and well i guess i didnt cuz its gone :smith:

found the Battlegrounds 2 forums and most threads have last been posted in in 2016 :negative:

my old hl mods noooooooo

oh there is a BG3 gently caress yes

oh man I used to play the hell out of battlegrounds 1 and just run around bayoneting everyone, I was unstoppable because the random shot spread was so bad it'd bug out at near point blank ranges

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Went through Quake 4 and had a decent amount of fun. The weapons get a lot more fun once you get them upgraded. I probably won’t replay it ever like the other Quakes but I don’t regret giving it a go. It feels like an adequate sequel to Quake 2 to me.:shrug:

If there’s ever a Quake 5, I really hope it’s more like 1 and not more Strogg stuff.

SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Dec 12, 2020

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



I hope it's just 1 + Doom Eternal's stuff with a more subdued plot.

And actual boss battles.

caleb
Jul 17, 2004
...rough day at the orifice.

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

This is making me curious. Are there still any decently popular multiplayer Goldsrc or Source mods out there?

I’ve always preferred the feel Quake lineage games, and still play a lot of Team Fortress/Titanfall/Apex because for the most part they scratch any multiplayer itch I have. I wouldn’t mind having another game or two to jump into on occasion.

Oh and by decently populated I mean I could find a game without needing discord or steam groups. A server or two population is enough for me.

NMRiH is very fun but if you join in the middle of a map you end up sitting around for a long time spectating and it's not 3 minute rounds. It has a really cool creeping doom powerlessness vibe vs L4D where you are essentially an action movie hero. You can almost always find a few populated servers.

Squeezy Farm
Jun 16, 2009

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

This is making me curious. Are there still any decently popular multiplayer Goldsrc or Source mods out there?

I’ve always preferred the feel Quake lineage games, and still play a lot of Team Fortress/Titanfall/Apex because for the most part they scratch any multiplayer itch I have. I wouldn’t mind having another game or two to jump into on occasion.

Oh and by decently populated I mean I could find a game without needing discord or steam groups. A server or two population is enough for me.

sven coop
fistful of frags
several gmod modes

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

SeANMcBAY posted:

Went through Quake 4 and had a decent amount of fun. The weapons get a lot more fun once you get them upgraded. I probably won’t replay it ever like the other Quakes but I don’t regret giving it a go. It feels like an adequate sequel to Quake 2 to me.:shrug:

If there’s ever a Quake 5, I really hope it’s more like 1 and not more Strogg stuff.

Try the False Dawn mod campaign if you want to see a neat effort at a non-linear single player map

Arach
Oct 3, 2003

Dive! Dive! Di... are you diving yet?
Grimey Drawer
Well this is cute.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
BG was fun, but I preferred The Trenches.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Mordja posted:

BG was fun, but I preferred The Trenches.

The Trenches ruled.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

Odd Mutant posted:

idea: Minecraft but it’s classic doom and it’s about making classic doom maps.

The Doom engine can’t really do that because of BSP. It’s probably possible to make some kind of FrankenDoomCraft by grafting the gameplay on top of the original Cube engine since it’s designed for 2.5D geometry and allows for real-time editing.

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!
this threads definitely making me nostalgic for the hay-day of janky goldsrc mods

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

I used to play Specialists a bit, but not the dumb RP servers because they were boring and I wanted to shoot people with the Raging Bull. Also used to play S&I with some goons but I was awful at it.

Anyone remember Eternal Silence? That was the poo poo. One of the team taunts was "UNITED TERRAN TESTICLES!" and it made me laugh my rear end off. Game was like an offbrand Battlefront in the Source engine and I wish it wasn't dead as a doornail because it was so much fun

Zeether fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Dec 12, 2020

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Finally playing all the way through Blake Stone thanks to the BStone sourceport and this poo poo rules. It's too bad the devs couldn't license the Doom engine and pump out one more game, the setting and aesthetic are fun and its got just enough extra going on mechanically to not bore me to tears like Wolf 3D does outside the first episode. The TC Spear: End of Destiny takes a lot of inspo from Blake Stone which is one of the reasons I love it so much.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


I miss Action Half-Life and will always be bummed that the Source port never took off.

Bonobos
Jan 26, 2004
What’s the best way to play duke nukem, shadow warrior, blood and redneck rampage these days? Is there a new source port de jour? Or is everyone still rocking eduke32?

For that matter, any updated models / texture packs / music packs recommended to get the best experience?

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

I remember the original releases of the Firearms mod being a ton of fun but IIRC there was a ton of drama around either one or more members of the team splitting off to make a Source iteration of their own so there were two versions and I still to this day don't know which one was supposed to be the real follow-up

The Insurgency games kinds sorta had that point system for equipment and such but I miss the hell out of the original Goldsrc mod

(Fake edit: hahaha just remembered the one beta version where most servers banned the AUG because it was one of the most OP weapons ever made)

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The AUG being absolutely stupid is pretty much the only thing I remember about the game.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Some of the maps were really good, I remember killing a ton of people with the revolver with the scope on it, putting town artillery markers and getting so many people on the other team killed with a steady stream of mortar strikes, rushing teams with a ton of medics so we could bandage the bodies on the ground to get back reinforcement numbers, man I miss that mod so much

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Bonobos posted:

What’s the best way to play duke nukem, shadow warrior, blood and redneck rampage these days? Is there a new source port de jour? Or is everyone still rocking eduke32?

For that matter, any updated models / texture packs / music packs recommended to get the best experience?

eDuke is still the main Duke source port, I think. Not sure about Shadow Warrior but it seems to run ok in Raze though I haven't given it much time. Blood's got Fresh Supply, the official port to Kex, but if you want something else there's not only Raze, but NBlood, and Blood/BuildGDX. Redneck Rampage has Raze, RedNukem, and Redneck/BuildGDX.

I personally really like Raze for everything but Duke, where I still use eDuke, since it allows for more mods. If you want to play Blood mods, I'd just stick with Fresh Supply because it's really easy to get them up and running (the one exception I've found is Bloody Pulp Fiction).

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



I know, Randy, but I do like Duke 3D World Tour.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

Groovelord Neato posted:

The AUG being absolutely stupid is pretty much the only thing I remember about the game.

i will always believe that AUGs exist in games because of Firearms

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Kamrat posted:

Anyway, I always felt that l4d offered a more pure experience compared to 2, the new special infected didn't feel that well thought out and the melee weapons felt more like fluff, I think if they spent more than a year cranking that one out they could've polished it better. Too bad theres so many unfixed bugs in 1 since it was abandoned so fast.

Also while we're kvetching, I always hated L4D2's more wacky farcical tone compared to the first game's more grounded feel. Including such hi-larious jokes as what if Boomer but lady?

And for me the best parts of both games are when you're creeping through abandoned urban areas that are unsettling wholly independent of whether or not there are zombies clawing at your face; 1 has way more of that than 2.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
L4D1 is far better than L4D2.

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I always preferred L4D2. You can point to stuff about gun models and goofier aesthetics all you want, but both the floatier Source Engine and the new mechanics they added-- the Defib, Adrenaline, Boomer Bile, Jockey/Charger/Spitter, more diverse weapon tiers-- plus the extra maps made it a much more replayable experience. Like 1000+ hours replayable in my case. L4D1 has a better crunch feel with its engine and I respect that, but I think it gets a bit too much praise and L4D2 gets a little too much poo poo.

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