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Facebook Aunt posted:If they had 22 episodes they would have time to let all those characters have their focus episodes or at least focus B plots. One week the B plot could be Reno trying to fix up Bryce with some rando in engineering. Zero stakes slice of life stuff. What is life like for Linus? It looks like he's the only Saurian on discovery, and his species may not even be members of the Federation anymore. That sounds really lonely. We spent an episode liberating the Kelpians last season, can we check on them and see the consequences or that? Did they end up genociding the Ba'ul? One small detail I actually did like with this episode was the Kelpian ship designation acronym was "KSF". "USS" wouldn't have said nearly as much about how far they've evidently come as a people.
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Khanstant posted:Would it? People super fussed about the body horror in Picard and Disco He does movies without body horror. I want him to make stuff because he’s an incredible director, not cos I love images of distorted bodies. If you do, check out his son’s film, Possessor. Slow burn but very much in the style of Cronenberg senior.
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Dec 12, 2020 06:54
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Crusader posted:https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/david-cronenberg-star-trek-discovery-1234850680/ Cronenberg and exploring pronouns were the most interesting things about this season. Every time Kovich is on screen: "Finally, a professional."
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Dec 12, 2020 07:49
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Automatic Slim posted:Cronenberg and exploring pronouns were the most interesting things about this season. You'd think "Oh, and the ship is now self-aware" would be of more importance than it's treated with.
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Dec 12, 2020 08:08
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“I’m cheap and I’m available” is such a baller response from a legendary director who could just sit back and retire without ever working again if he wanted. It’s such a bizarre casting choice for a Trek guest star, but he’s been great as I’m all for more Kovich.
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Dec 12, 2020 08:11
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Big Mean Jerk posted:“I’m cheap and I’m available” is such a baller response from a legendary director who could just sit back and retire without ever working again if he wanted. It’s such a bizarre casting choice for a Trek guest star, but he’s been great as I’m all for more Kovich. I figure it's like Hertzog, they don't have to do anything so they're doing whatever the gently caress they want and clearly having a lot of fun.
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Dec 12, 2020 10:43
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I'm in the middle of this latest episode and had to stop to make this: https://i.imgur.com/LDYCg3V.mp4 
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Dec 12, 2020 11:10
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I've come around on Burnham trying to fix the Burn because it's clear that nobody else gives a gently caress. They're letting the dumb dumb time traveler to fixate on it while the grown ups worry about Peak Dilithium.
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Dec 12, 2020 11:33
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Facebook Aunt posted:If they had 22 episodes they would have time to let all those characters have their focus episodes or at least focus B plots. One week the B plot could be Reno trying to fix up Bryce with some rando in engineering. Zero stakes slice of life stuff. What is life like for Linus? It looks like he's the only Saurian on discovery, and his species may not even be members of the Federation anymore. That sounds really lonely. We spent an episode liberating the Kelpians last season, can we check on them and see the consequences or that? Did they end up genociding the Ba'ul? They have the time to do this now. They're not taking it, instead they're just running the hamster wheel of 'michael is great' over and over again. More episodes would not result in a better show. We would just be getting what we are getting now but more.
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Dec 12, 2020 11:39
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Neddy Seagoon posted:One small detail I actually did like with this episode was the Kelpian ship designation acronym was "KSF". "USS" wouldn't have said nearly as much about how far they've evidently come as a people. Kelpians get freedom in MU, kelpians join UFP in PU Because of that, the two universes converge in only quantum stable element between the two - dilithium. It goes explodey! Ofc all of that because of Burnha-ha-ham in both universes
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Dec 12, 2020 11:46
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That Kelowna distress signal - same actor as L’Rell right? Distinctive voice.
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well why not posted:That Kelowna distress signal - same actor as L’Rell right? Distinctive voice. Not according to IMDB! It's weird how she's in so much publicity stuff but isn't in the show any more
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Crusader posted:https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/david-cronenberg-star-trek-discovery-1234850680/ Hear me out: First officer Cronenberg. socialsecurity posted:I'd be ok if they weren't spending 2 episodes focusing on the character that's about to leave the show for a spinoff instead of giving much needed development to basically anyone else. Is the spinoff still happening? Feels like there have been rumors of it happening since the end of s1 and no real proof.
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Dec 12, 2020 15:21
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Hear me out: First officer Cronenberg. Every episode the ship just goes through an ornate travel sequence, then spends 45 minutes on a planet looking at the most hosed-up bizarre poo poo an effects team can imagine. I'd likely watch that.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Hear me out: First officer Cronenberg. my guess is covid disrupted their schedule but possible it’s also just being quietly canceled
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Hear me out: First officer Cronenberg. The whole crew would be set on edge every time the order was given to use the Scanners.
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A.o.D. posted:The whole crew would be set on edge every time the order was given to use the Scanners.
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Crusader posted:my guess is covid disrupted their schedule but possible it’s also just being quietly canceled Doubtful, considering this two-parter looks like it's threatening to veer into backdoor pilot territory.
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Khanstant posted:Would it? People super fussed about the body horror in Picard and Disco The scene of Icheb getting an eye removed to kick off a light hearted episode about a caper in a seedy bar is not exactly Videodrome. edit: gently caress me, I really want to see David Cronenberg do something like Crash (not the best picture one) in star trek now. piratepilates fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You'd think "Oh, and the ship is now self-aware" would be of more importance than it's treated with.
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Dec 12, 2020 18:31
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AI aren't a monolith. Bigot.
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MariusLecter posted:AI aren't a monolith. Bigot. But the Monolith is an AI.
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Dec 12, 2020 19:06
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MariusLecter posted:AI aren't a monolith. Bigot.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's a little weird that they immediately assume it's fine, when they had just almost been murdered by Control maybe a few days before that? The sphere data wants to be shared and preserved. If it is useful people will want to keep it around, if it is combative people will try to destroy it. It won't let them self-destruct the ship, but other than that one little quirk it seems content to quietly sit back and observe like it has been doing for thousands of years. While Discovery's crew may not have much experience with sapient AI, the Federation sure as hell does. Of the 67,219 occasions of sapient self-aware AI we have on record 47% were actively helpful, 28% were benign, 14% immediately hosed off to parts unknown, 9% were initially troublesome but easily contained, and only 2% were actively malevolent. It is something to keep an eye on, but freaking out and attempting to destroy a self-aware AI usually just makes it things worse. It's possible by the future that thousands of ships have become self-aware to some degree. Enterprise D certainly seemed to have something happening on the down low. Make a table no a metal table. Seducing Geordie with a version of Dr. Brahms that wasn't very accurate at all. I think it had a baby once? It seemed happy to mostly take care of it's crew and go along with orders though, so there was no reason to try to lobotomize it. If that is the most common experience the Federation has with spontaneous self-awareness, it makes sense that they wouldn't be too concerned about the Discovery.
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I'd actually forgotten that the Sphere data was now running Discovery's computer now. That enormous plot point from episode 2-3 that has not come up again. This show doesn't have a Chekov's gun problem, it has a Chekov's armoury problem.
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Alchenar posted:This show doesn't have a Chekov's gun problem, it has a Chekov's
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I’m guessing the Sphere Computer will come into play in the season finale as a major plot point, but they are doing a piss-poor job of leading up to it.
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HD DAD posted:I’m guessing the Sphere Computer will come into play in the season finale as a major plot point, but they are doing a piss-poor job of leading up to it. A joke someone made from after episode 2 was that eventually someone will ask the computer about the Burn and it'll go "oh Dilithium is a substance that undergoes cyclical decomposure and recrystallisation every 100,000 years, based on current records of when the Burn happened it should all return to normal within a year or so."
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The Sphere will tell Saru & Pals to track down the Cube and Dodecahedron counterpart computers. Disco Season 4 will be Future Geometry Hunt.
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Gonz posted:The Sphere will tell Saru & Pals to track down the Cube and Dodecahedron counterpart computers. At least we'll finally find out who built the pyramids.
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Gonz posted:The Sphere will tell Saru & Pals to track down the Cube and Dodecahedron counterpart computers. I was hoping someone would do a destiny tv show at some point
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tarlibone posted:At least we'll finally find out who built the pyramids. They aren't actually pyramids, they are octahedral space ships.
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Gimmie a Tet-shaped station like in Oblivion, damnit. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SelfassuredMeaslyArizonaalligatorlizard-mobile.mp4 Leave it to two Tom Cruise sci-fi movies to give me my favorite alien designs (Edge of Tomorrow) and favorite alien mothership design (Oblivion) in the last 10-15 years. tarlibone posted:At least we'll finally find out who built the pyramids. The Goa'uld built the Pyramids, tarlibone.
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Cojawfee posted:They aren't actually pyramids, they are octahedral space ships. Hey... didn't Voyager throw in a pyramid Borg ship at one point? I think they did, and I read that they did it because since they had cubes and spheres, they were a pyramid away from having the UPN logo trifecta.
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tarlibone posted:Hey... didn't Voyager throw in a pyramid Borg ship at one point? I think they did, and I read that they did it because since they had cubes and spheres, they were a pyramid away from having the UPN logo trifecta.
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Dec 13, 2020 02:09
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There's a Borg hypercube chillaxin in transwarp space somewhere but good luck parsing that with your unaided meatmind
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Dec 13, 2020 02:20
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They never give you a Borg line piece when you really need one.
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Delsaber posted:They never give you a Borg line piece when you really need one. The TETRIS Protocols are fleet maneuvers for detachments of four Borg Cubes locking together in formation. They were abandoned because a full 4x10-ship formation caused all the Cubes involved to self-destruct.
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This is making me think of how easy it was to killdoze everything in sight as the Borg in Star Trek: Armada. I never played Armada 2, didn't the Borg get into some wild shapeshifting poo poo in that?
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:This reeks of "a very Special Star Trek episode" where Georgiou is supposed to learn to be at peace with actually liking people. Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I've come around on Burnham trying to fix the Burn because it's clear that nobody else gives a gently caress. They're letting the dumb dumb time traveler to fixate on it while the grown ups worry about Peak Dilithium. I assume it's leading to some big reveal, but "We must figure out what caused a 200 year old disaster right now" just leaves me wondering what the hell happens when they do find out. It's either "oh, that explains it" or "The Federation did it for some reason, because that dovetails into the plot they're doing in Picard with the gradual corruption of Starfleet". Either way it doesn't change that it happened unless they're scrapping this timeline too.
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