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PFIIIIIIZER....PFIIIIZER VACCIIINE....VACCIIINE Help me out, what's the right chant here?
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https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1338650022934683650?s=19 Just in case you needed a little more to add to your depression
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Dec 15, 2020 02:13
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Seibikitei posted:I find this fascinating and would subscribe to your newsletter. Any suggestions on where to go to learn more about this in depth? I saw something earlier, probably in a tweet, that they avoided Microsoft IPs like the plague. I saw the Microsoft thing too, it was apparently built into a deny-list. Microsoft has really good infosec people working for them so they knew their stuff would be found. Someone else said Solarwinds is an old company, and I agree... I was thinking about how popular it was back in the early 2000's, even in DoD - we would use it everywhere to monitor network status. I can only imagine how much they've grown since then. I'm guessing their internal development process has some issues.
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Dec 15, 2020 02:30
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hannibal posted:I saw the Microsoft thing too, it was apparently built into a deny-list. Microsoft has really good infosec people working for them so they knew their stuff would be found. They're effectively legacy/infrastructure. If their packages ain't broke there's not a lot to be done when pushing product into production and to market. Whats really likely is that either SecDevOps is stuck in the early 2000s and didn't do a whole lot of network visibility investigation prior to any pushes to production that allowed for the bad actors to own the entire pipeline. It didn't even need to be a sophisticated initial attack as the product is stable, and won't have a TON of governance around it. AppSec and DevOps kinda fail in that they assume a secure development environment and focus on the product itself rather than the situation in which development is occurring.
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Dec 15, 2020 03:02
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Soylent Pudding posted:I have a lot of thoughts on the subject and not much time to give my Ted talk. The short, short, short version is we have about three (human) generations of IT technology never designed with security in mind now globally interconnected. Security is still seen as an optional upgrade strongly encouraged to be purchased by the end user. So you don't get economies of scale because no one has the incentive to remove generations of poor design choices and rearchitect our digital infrastructure in a secure way. Basically the public only sees the wildfires but the actual issue is the decades of abysmal digital forest ecosystem management. This is a very technology centric view of security. Lately I've come around to seeing security through the lens of an immune system. The right balance is to invest enough in defense such that you're unlikely to die from an infection, but occasionally you'll get knocked on your rear end for a while.
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Dec 15, 2020 03:08
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Mr. Nice! posted:Breaking - haven't found a link yet but Bill Barr just resigned. For Whom The Barr Tolls
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Dec 15, 2020 03:37
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wins32767 posted:This is a very technology centric view of security. Lately I've come around to seeing security through the lens of an immune system. The right balance is to invest enough in defense such that you're unlikely to die from an infection, but occasionally you'll get knocked on your rear end for a while. Hence the short, short version. Infosec at it's core is a policy and regulatory problem, not a tech problem. Things are insecure because there is there is not accountability or liability to shift the economic incentive to favor security. The immune system model is much better than the old castle mindset of cyber defense though. E: some other topical content. https://mobile.twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1338649269482479616
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Dec 15, 2020 03:44
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Soylent Pudding posted:Hence the short, short version. Infosec at it's core is a policy and regulatory problem, not a tech problem. Things are insecure because there is there is not accountability or liability to shift the economic incentive to favor security. The immune system model is much better than the old castle mindset of cyber defense though. You love to see it.
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Dec 15, 2020 03:47
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man this guy is not having good luck with the internet https://twitter.com/jrw1672/status/1330868481261072384?s=20
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Dec 15, 2020 03:48
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Mr. Nice! posted:Also, if you hadn't seen, the white house chief of security had to have his leg amputated due to covid complications and the family, much like mine, has had to use gofundme to pay the bills. Oh yeah the praetorian guard is totally gonna go to the mat for president donnie when he fights his eviction.
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Dec 15, 2020 04:25
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Fallom posted:Having top of the line healthcare still means $6k+ in deductibles and out of pocket expenses before you max out. I'm on a grandfathered pre-ACA PPO individual plan with a $300 deductible and I pay an obscene amount per month. The only plan I've seen come close to mine is the platinum plan through Kaiser, which for the non-US people, is an HMO. Oh, and to even find out about the best plans, you basically have to agree to let the health insurance companies badger you incessantly during Open Season. Non-stop phone calls and texts until you finally tell them to leave you the gently caress alone, and even then it won't stop until Open Season ends. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Dec 15, 2020 |
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Dec 15, 2020 05:00
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Best way to get healthcare in this country is 1. be active duty military or 2. work for kaiser or be a spouse of someone working for kaiser.
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Dec 15, 2020 05:21
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ded posted:Best way to get healthcare in this country is 1. be active duty military or 2. work for kaiser or be a spouse of someone working for kaiser. Or be like me and get a flesh wound Purple Heart and also over 40% disability from other stuff. I once paid $8 after an er visit with stitches and antibiotics.
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Dec 15, 2020 05:27
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Or get hosed up enough to get medically retired- the amount I pay for my family's insurance is obscenely low.
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Dec 15, 2020 05:39
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I've been paying out of pocket for my Kaiser plan since its 500/month and I'm a type 1 diabetic so losing medical would be bad. I also have union health-care in case of a real emergency. I debate dropping Kaiser all the time due to the cost but that would make me entirely dependent on an employer plus the Kaiser plans employers offered weren't really much cheaper.
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Dec 15, 2020 05:55
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current event: Todger Strunk https://twitter.com/jacknicklaus/status/1338628170694750214
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Dec 15, 2020 06:13
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Not sure what's worse: that name or the superspreader party he co-hosted.
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Dec 15, 2020 06:27
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Todger is british english for penis
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Dec 15, 2020 06:49
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Doc Hawkins posted:current event: Todger Strunk That name sounds like one of those "American" names the Japanese devs came up with for that NES baseball game.
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Dec 15, 2020 06:50
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Putin called to congratulate Biden, apparently. That's gotta piss Trump off some more
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Dec 15, 2020 08:48
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Putin called to congratulate Biden, apparently. That's gotta piss Trump off some more I mean, trump did exactly what putin wanted, injected massive uncertainty in the electoral process, and has severely undermined his successors presidency before it even gets off the ground, which guarantees a weak Biden presidency, and putin will be free to do whatever he wants for another 4 years. Putin has no further need for trump. Granted a Biden presidency wasn't going to be strong anyways, but any stance stiffer than kowtowing to dictators is an immovable mountain next to trump.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:12
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Soylent Pudding posted:E: some other topical content. 
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Dec 15, 2020 13:43
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Gotta love that optimism! I didn't look at the election spread, but man these twerps make me wish I did. Also from reading the comments, it looks almost like some of these goobers made their bets after the initial count, which is even more fantastic.
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Dec 15, 2020 14:32
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That tuition guy, who joined Twitter in October this year and has never made a tweet of his own, has now started a GoFundMe to make up for the “tuition” he “lost.” Griftin’ the night away...
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Dec 15, 2020 14:48
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This is a good thread breaking down a lot of the stuff about the current vaccines. https://twitter.com/meganranney/status/1338841290100903937 excerpts but the whole thing worth a read https://twitter.com/meganranney/status/1338841296950226944?s=20 https://twitter.com/meganranney/status/1338841304185376768?s=20
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Dec 15, 2020 14:51
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I just hope they iron out the allergic reaction conditions before it rolls out to me. I'm in the same category as the people in the UK. I would rather get the vaccine over not, but also don't like not breathing.
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Dec 15, 2020 14:53
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three hundred thousand dead.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:03
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Doc Hawkins posted:three hundred thousand dead. It’s dumbfounding you me that we are in the worst case scenario from March/April. I see a lot of people who pay lip service to the precautions at this point. My wife has an auto immune disorder so sans our PCS, she basically doesn’t leave the house but to drop off our daughter at school. I work, do the grocery shopping, etc. I see all sorts of people 1/2 masked, having dinner at indoor restaurants, working out in an incloses garage with 4 or 5 friends.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:14
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I'm not sure how we recover from 1 in 1100 Americans dead, and by the time this is done, probably more like 1 in 800 Americans dead, because one of our two ruling parties decided that masks were tyranny, then marched armed around statehouses demanding that Americans be allowed to die because ____. Like, how do we move past this? How do each of us personally forgive them for this poo poo, especially those who have lost someone? I have this pit of anger and the worst my family has suffered is that I haven't seen my parents since last fall and we had to have a socially distanced graveside funeral service for my grandma (who died of being 96, not of covid) that my mom couldn't attend because she is immunocompromized.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:23
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:It’s dumbfounding you me that we are in the worst case scenario from March/April. I see a lot of people who pay lip service to the precautions at this point. I was quarantining here to be safe to be able to go visit my parents (and just my parents) for Christmas. My university offered covid testing free (non-rapid, same day lab results) that I was taking advantage of weekly. The house I'm living in out here just did a scheduled tour and let 8 (!!!) college-age dudes come in, two of whom had their masks around their chins halfway through and I had to tell them to knock that poo poo off.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:26
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Apathy is the opiate of the ignorant.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:30
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Wasabi the J posted:Apathy is the opiate of the ignorant. Apathy is this country’s pastime. It’s why corporations are able to kill employees with Covid and demand liability protections. We march and protest primarily as a reactionary measure. Any proactive protests last a day and fizzle off. We deserve everything we have because we are tacitly ok with it outside of shitposting and complaining online.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:34
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stealie72 posted:I'm not sure how we recover from 1 in 1100 Americans dead, and by the time this is done, probably more like 1 in 800 Americans dead, because one of our two ruling parties decided that masks were tyranny, then marched armed around statehouses demanding that Americans be allowed to die because ____. It's because one of our two parties allowed a megalomaniac to rise to power and grab the entire Party by the balls to the point no one would stand up to him save for Mitt Romney for fear of being ruined by he and his cult, all the while allowing him to do irreparable damage to this country through horrible mismanagement of a pandemic and sowing distrust in the electoral system because he was afraid of losing (so he could have a boogeyman to blame if he did). TL;DR- I'm probably never voting Republican again.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:47
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https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1338839302097174528?s=21 https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1338853902805065728?s=21 The dude really should teach a masters class on gritting.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:55
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TidePods4Lunch posted:https://twitter.com/dcdufour/status/1338839302097174528?s=21 Thought that was TrumpU??
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Dec 15, 2020 15:58
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CBJSprague24 posted:It's because one of our two parties allowed a megalomaniac to rise to power and grab the entire Party by the balls Trump was the best the GOP had to offer in 2016. Kasich, Cruz, Christie, Rubio, Carson, ¡JEB!, Paul, Huckabee, Fiorina? What a bunch of clowns. It’s easy to pick one of them as preferable now that Trump has been witnessed wielding executive power, but with that circus, Trump didn’t look bad in comparison.
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Dec 15, 2020 15:58
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I think my favorite bit of cognitive dissonance from this whole shitshow is people saying that with record numbers of people voting (but only for trump) that its crazy how hard they had to work to steal the election. Its amazing doublethink that only one side of this could have shattered voting records in the country and all other votes are fake. But then again these are also the people who believe that trunp won last time even though there were 3 millions illegal votes cast against him so v0v
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Dec 15, 2020 15:59
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No he definitely looked bad. He just had the most vocal segment of supporters and all this either names split their voting bases.
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Dec 15, 2020 16:00
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Thwomp posted:No he definitely looked bad. He just had the most vocal segment of supporters and all this either names split their voting bases. I don’t believe it would have mattered if more candidates had dropped out earlier. Trump did nearly as well as all of them combined in polls and in the early states, and every time a candidate did drop out, he picked up a significant fraction of their supporters. Mathematically, the best shot would have been to keep everyone in and go for a brokered convention.
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Stravag posted:I think my favorite bit of cognitive dissonance from this whole shitshow is people saying that with record numbers of people voting (but only for trump) that its crazy how hard they had to work to steal the election. Its amazing doublethink that only one side of this could have shattered voting records in the country and all other votes are fake. But then again these are also the people who believe that trunp won last time even though there were 3 millions illegal votes cast against him so v0v I went to a Trevor Noah show in 2018 and he had a bit about Trump, which drew boos from the crowd. His responses were "Don't boo, vote.", which led to applause, and something like "Whether you like him or not, Trump has created interest in politics unlike anything in recent memory". In other words, a POTUS who, at that point, wasn't even halfway into his first term, had drawn such interest in government (and much of it was directly to counter him) that it was possible even then that millions of people would come out to vote against him. Give it a couple more years in which he was Impeached (and his party later admitted "yeah, he pretty much did it"), completely fumbled the response to a once-in-a-century pandemic by claiming it was a hoax, and stoked racial division reminiscent of 1968 and, much to his chagrin, people don't vote on who held the most rallies, but for other reasons such as "We don't want four more years of this rear end in a top hat". Trump's not challenging ballots in states he initially trailed in but won because  , why be consistent? The worst part is his followers, who held obnoxious poo poo like boat and truck parades, sincerely believe he had it stolen from him.
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