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gandlethorpe posted:I also like this mini-event because it exposes how little many people know about the game mechanics i know the game mechanics just fine but i'll frequently have to redo them because of load times and getting my bearings, and i come in just a split second under the clock. it's really irritating gameplay. if i have to retry it, at least let me restart from my last warp point with a full timer, like the gliding challenge or ballon defense/sabotage
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I think food delivery has been my favorite event. It is simple, doesn’t cost resin, lets the devs show off fun interesting puzzle challenges, encouraged me to mix up my world party, and can ultimately be cheesed completely if you really want to. Oh and it is absolutely insane and everyone involved a crazy person.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:56
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If you stand right up against the pillar when the geo cube does his machine gun attack, he'll hit the cube he's standing on and do a ton of damage to it ive never had a problem with the geo cube fight though admittedly I dont do it very often
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Dec 17, 2020 00:56
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I think i'd enjoy the food delivery event if it just had the same "press p to restart" thing that other timed events have. As it is, wandering too close to an electro ore or jumping from slightly too high and taking fall damage or bumping up against a wall and climbing 1 inch upwards on a no-climbing delivery will instantly fail you and then you have to go through like 4 menus and 2 teleport loading screens to try again.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:58
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kater posted:I think food delivery has been my favorite event. It is simple, doesn’t cost resin, lets the devs show off fun interesting puzzle challenges, encouraged me to mix up my world party, and can ultimately be cheesed completely if you really want to. i was pretty into it today until i did the one in stormterror's lair, the other two are sensible and slightly challenging but stormterrors is straight up a gently caress-you-here's-an-electro-stone-you-can't-see-while-climbing, break it and try again! and that's bad design.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:00
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kater posted:Oh and it is absolutely insane and everyone involved a crazy person. Yeah, part of the delivery event that appeals to me is how amusing the whole situation is. Especially when I run it with two gods. I like how "don't touch anything weird" includes stepping in a puddle. Fur20 posted:i know the game mechanics just fine but i'll frequently have to redo them because of load times and getting my bearings, and i come in just a split second under the clock. it's really irritating gameplay. I agree the UI needs work, but I see people raging about the challenges themselves like they're impossible to figure out. And, as mentioned, if someone's really having issues, they can always resort to cheesing it.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:01
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Fur20 posted:i was pretty into it today until i did the one in stormterror's lair, the other two are sensible and slightly challenging but stormterrors is straight up a gently caress-you-here's-an-electro-stone-you-can't-see-while-climbing, break it and try again! and that's bad design. you can also just jump off the top of the center spire and glide to it easily
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Dec 17, 2020 01:03
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Log082 posted:you can also just jump off the top of the center spire and glide to it easily it would've been nice to know that gliding was permitted without going into the menu to double check, you know what i'm saying? i complain but honestly anything i don't get first try i just cheese with the portable waypoint. it's one of those death by a million cuts sorts of things where taken individually, the problems with the event are quite small. but put together, and they're a recipe for a bad time. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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Dec 17, 2020 01:04
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Fur20 posted:if i have to retry it, at least let me restart from my last warp point with a full timer, like the gliding challenge or ballon defense/sabotage This combined with the marker vanishing after your first attempt are the two decisions that turn a quick guesswork puzzle into an annoying slog. Enemies magically spawn if you go one way or ice doesn't protect you from water in this one specific case? Well, you're screwed now so go jump in a river or dash or whatever to fail then do two warps to get back. You can have silly challenges where you need to repeat them several times to account for unknown things, or you can have long punishing load-filled runbacks, but having both is poo poo.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:04
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Fur20 posted:it would've been nice to know that gliding was permitted without going into the menu to double check, you know what i'm saying? Sure, but when you accept the delivery the little window that pops up tells you exactly what you can and can't do, so I always check that. Mailer posted:This combined with the marker vanishing after your first attempt are the two decisions that turn a quick guesswork puzzle into an annoying slog. The marker disappearing is definitely bad UI but as a tip, you can fix it by going into your quest menu and reenabling the marker. you can even do this before you re-pick-up the delivery. It's still dumb that it disappears at all, but at least fixing it this way means you don't waste precious time.
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same same, but i always second guess myself on it because there have been times where i misread, and i swear there was one time where it didn't list a failure condition. it's so important that it's something i always want to have right in front of me.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:11
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Fur20 posted:i was pretty into it today until i did the one in stormterror's lair, the other two are sensible and slightly challenging but stormterrors is straight up a gently caress-you-here's-an-electro-stone-you-can't-see-while-climbing, break it and try again! and that's bad design. The thing is loving purple and right there, come on now. It even makes some ambient sparky noise. I laughed my rear end off when I saw it. I get that this event wasn't for you, and there's plenty of things that could have made it more pleasant like having a restart button as others are saying but acting as though giving things some slight challenge is bad design is just silly.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:14
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Saxophone posted:Seriously. The lady getting blasted by waterfall mist waiting on soup you can't get water in was *chef's kiss* When I saw where she was I literally said "Oh no." in that tone people get before they see some catastrophe like a train wreck about to occur. Top tier troll. Had me chuckling too once I got past trying to land close enough not to get the mist from the waterfall in the soup. What a clever dick the person that made that was. Also, a lot of these deliveries are doable with 30-40s left if you know the best route. Unless you've got hideous loading times they shouldn't be that much of a problem. Make sure you use your tallest character to run and sprint as well. The taller the character the more time you shave off due to their slightly increased running and sprinting speeds. Likewise, I swapped mona in for the sprinting ones then just ran Tartaglia as my runner while I regenned stamina. Even on the good hunter one I ended it with 25s left.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:15
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Mailer posted:This combined with the marker vanishing after your first attempt are the two decisions that turn a quick guesswork puzzle into an annoying slog. Enemies magically spawn if you go one way or ice doesn't protect you from water in this one specific case? Well, you're screwed now so go jump in a river or dash or whatever to fail then do two warps to get back. You can have silly challenges where you need to repeat them several times to account for unknown things, or you can have long punishing load-filled runbacks, but having both is poo poo. The marker only appears if you use the event menu to click "start" each time you retry  if you just talk to the quest NPC again without going through the event menu, it won't show up.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:19
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:The marker only appears if you use the event menu to click "start" each time you retry Also if you hit V when you get the delivery it'll all but zoom to where it is in the map. A massive arrow will appear on the edge of the map letting you rapidly scroll to it and select the nearest teleport really quick. Archonex fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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Dec 17, 2020 01:21
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I like that on top of this month's Abyss buffs, the deliveries also favor using Zhongli due to his height advantage for running, his pillar for climbing, and his shield for blocking incidental damage. Imagine trying to sue/boycott a company because you didn't like such a useful hero.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:22
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why are people getting hit by an electro stone in the stormterror delivery, you can literally fly directly to the NPC with zero obstacles from the stormterror domain portal
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Dec 17, 2020 01:23
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You can also reactivate the marker by going into the quest menu and making it the primary/watched one.
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Indecisive posted:why are people getting hit by an electro stone in the stormterror delivery, you can literally fly directly to the NPC with zero obstacles from the stormterror domain portal yeah, it's the domain with the tall pillars where you can't glide that has the stone. I got zapped by it.... twice. Then I pull out fire teddy bear and blew it up.
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UltraRed posted:yeah, it's the domain with the tall pillars where you can't glide that has the stone. I got zapped by it.... twice. Then I pull out fire teddy bear and blew it up. The Guyun one? I just swam there from the nearest waypoint.
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Dec 17, 2020 01:33
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gandlethorpe posted:I like that on top of this month's Abyss buffs, the deliveries also favor using Zhongli due to his height advantage for running, his pillar for climbing, and his shield for blocking incidental damage. Imagine trying to sue/boycott a company because you didn't like such a useful hero. And yet, despite all of that he's still subpar compared to other options. Tartaglia is faster, Venti can boost you higher, and almost every attack the routes will throw at you can be countered by running in a serpentine fashion. So on point for how his stripped down and nerfed design is so far. Also, MiHoYo has signaled that they've decided to buff Zhongli in 1.3 or later. Which is good. It's horribly apparent that he's way underpowered compared to what he was sold as. Never mind the fact that every role he can fill has a 4 star that does it better. Archonex fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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Archonex posted:Also, MiHoYo has signaled that they've decided to buff Zhongli in 1.3 or later. Which is good. It's horribly apparent that he's way underpowered compared to what he was sold as. Never mind the fact that every role he can fill has a 4 star that does it better. just put four more pulls in to hit pity and pull geo daddy, tbh rods from god sold it for me and whatever Albedo's role is if it's not support I don't see any use when I have Ning C5. Fingers crossed Ning+Zhong gets viable enough to use in a few months. (also the Bennett banner is getting all my primos so I might as well get the 5* out of the way) zgrowler2 fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Dec 17, 2020 |
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Indecisive posted:why are people getting hit by an electro stone in the stormterror delivery, you can literally fly directly to the NPC with zero obstacles from the stormterror domain portal you can also go from ground level and use Venti/Zhongli/GeoMC to get onto the islands in that little pond before climbing up. they even spawn in enemies along the way so it's a route they definitely considered people would take, but i feel like the stone is obvious enough. Archonex posted:Also, MiHoYo has signaled that they've decided to buff Zhongli in 1.3 or later. Which is good. It's horribly apparent that he's way underpowered compared to what he was sold as. Never mind the fact that every role he can fill has a 4 star that does it better. which 4* has a spammable 4s freeze on every enemy in a huge AOE?
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Archonex posted:Also, MiHoYo has signaled that they've decided to buff Zhongli in 1.3 or later. Which is good. It's horribly apparent that he's way underpowered compared to what he was sold as. Never mind the fact that every role he can fill has a 4 star that does it better. Is there a source for this?
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Archonex posted:Also, MiHoYo has signaled that they've decided to buff Zhongli in 1.3 or later. Which is good. It's horribly apparent that he's way underpowered compared to what he was sold as. Never mind the fact that every role he can fill has a 4 star that does it better. If they don't buff him before the Zhongli banner ends, what's the point? He's a limited event banner character so by the time they get around to buffing him he won't even be obtainable. I've been hoping they'd buff him so i'd have an excuse to dump the rest of my saved-up primogems on his banner because he does look really cool. But I won't roll for a character that I won't end up using in my team. Like Zhongli's biggest benefit atm is the permashields, but I already get that with my Ningguang and shields in this game don't stack, so having another geo character actively makes him less useful instead of synergizing like I'd hoped.
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Fur20 posted:i was pretty into it today until i did the one in stormterror's lair, the other two are sensible and slightly challenging but stormterrors is straight up a gently caress-you-here's-an-electro-stone-you-can't-see-while-climbing, break it and try again! and that's bad design. you did something besides go to stormterror's domain and glide?
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GrandpaPants posted:Is there a source for this?  Posted from their official twitter. It should be pretty comprehensible even without reading chinese. It is strange to me that they're waiting until 1.3, rather than doing it in 1.2, unless it takes them a long time to finalize balance changes for their gold version. It's also possible they're going to do planning to do a god rerun banner in 1.3 so that's why they're waiting. e: Weibo, not twitter, but 'basically chinese twitter'.
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Gacha's don't really run balance checks when the unit is on rate up. For example, FGO buffed a welfare unit that hasn't had an event run in over a year, or Epic Seven buffing two units majorly complained about (including one who's banner just ended as the buffs went through). The buffs are mainly for people that rolled for the character, not those that are thinking about it.
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kater posted:you did something besides go to stormterror's domain and glide? yeah i climbed up because after a week of quests where you can't glide, i just naturally assumed that you couldn't glide
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Dec 17, 2020 02:08
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Without reading the Chinese text in that image it just likes Zhongli (the latest character) waiting with the MC for the 1.3 patch. I don't understand how that implies incoming buffs.
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the mc is leading zhongli to the 1.3 testing door and paimon is literally buff. its a pretty obvious implication
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Paimon is flexing (buff) while Aether motions Zhongli into 1.3 i do think it's pretty tenuous and the buff will probably not change people's minds if it even exists. the recent geo-focused stuff in Abyss feels like maybe they're feeling out a way to improve crystallize alongside anything they do to Zhongli though.
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Ytlaya posted:Was there any way to complete yesterday's third delivery quest other than committing suicide (twice in my case)? I finally realized I could do that since there was no "don't take damage" requirement. Yes: https://streamable.com/8u8rua
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shimmy shimmy posted:god rerun banner v̢̼̫̅e͙͖͎̅n̡̢͙̅t̝̘̟̅i͇̼̘̅ 
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zgrowler2 posted:v̢̼̫̅e͙͖͎̅n̡̢͙̅t̝̘̟̅i͇̼̘̅ I started late and would also like this, yes. Give me the anemo twink.
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Venti has been sacrificed to the god of fomo and will never be available again
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Archonex posted:When I saw where she was I literally said "Oh no." in that tone people get before they see some catastrophe like a train wreck about to occur. How TF are you finishing the Wanmin Fresh one today with 30-40 seconds left? Like freezing the water with K takes 5 seconds each time and if you try and sprint swim you run out of stamina. I’m following the best route but I’m still running out of time with it.
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MarcusSA posted:How TF are you finishing the Wanmin Fresh one today with 30-40 seconds left? Like freezing the water with K takes 5 seconds each time and if you try and sprint swim you run out of stamina. i can't remember which teleporter i went in from but iirc i came up from the south and glided down onto it. i never froze anything. you will have to skyrim it though and kind of slide down some sheer cliff faces to fudge the fall damage
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Fur20 posted:i can't remember which teleporter i went in from but iirc i came up from the south and glided down onto it. i never froze anything. you will have to skyrim it though and kind of slide down some sheer cliff faces to fudge the fall damage You can’t glide though? You can sprint but not gliding no damage.
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i can't tell if you are looking for help on how to do it or just mystified at having time remaining, but slow swim most the way and it's fine? fast swim once scared enough.
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